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#1184372
Monday Aug 11
 
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Everyday a new lie spews from his sneering lips, yet never an apology for the previous day's lie.
It seems, from the apparent apathy, that the public likes being lied to. I call it malignant masochism.
Not so sure about that anymore. A black woman who was interviewed at Martha's Vineyard who still wanted to believe in this president said, "he seems to be holding back lately but there might be a method to his madness and I'm still waiting to see what it is."

My response was, "we all are, lady."

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#1184374
Monday Aug 11
 
continued:

“The president still feels very strongly that we are deluding ourselves if we think American intervention in Syria early on by assisting these rebels would have made a difference,” Engel told The Daily Beast in an interview.“He still believes that. I disagree, respectfully. They were not looking for U.S. troops, they were looking for help and the Syria civil war started with the most noblest of causes.”

In a New York Times interview published Aug. 8, Obama said that the idea arming the rebels would have made a difference had “always been a fantasy.”

“This idea that we could provide some light arms or even more sophisticated arms to what was essentially an opposition made up of former doctors, farmers, pharmacists and so forth, and that they were going to be able to battle not only a well-armed state but also a well-armed state backed by Russia, backed by Iran, a battle-hardened Hezbollah, that was never in the cards,” Obama said.

Clinton told The Atlantic in an interview published Aug. 10 that Obama’s “failure to help build up a credible fighting force of the people who were the originators of the protests against Assad—there were Islamists, there were secularists, there was everything in the middle—the failure to do that left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled.
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Hillary's stepping away from Obama's Foreign Policy disasters!

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#1184375
Monday Aug 11
 
Lily Boca Raton Fl wrote:
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Bernie Sanders is not a communist. Stop the gd lying.
Bernie Sanders is a socialist. Considering that communism is a socioeconomic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production and characterized by the absence of social classes, money, and the state; as well as a social, political and economic ideology and movement that aims to establish this social order, and old Bernie is just a few steps away from this...same difference.

He may not want to throw dissenters in a gulag...at least not yet. Or condone the state seizing personal property...at least not yet. But when the state runs out of other people's money and people start dissenting, it makes power hungry control freaks do crazy things.

Especially in a country this large with the potential for a lot of dissenters who could upset the socialists' applecart. We're not the size of European countries who also have socioeconomic systems with rioting in the streets when the state runs out of their money.
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Monday Aug 11
 
harmonious wrote:
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Hilarious to watch old Shrillary attack BO, ain't it?
Bill Clinton has superb political instincts....can smell rotting fish from a mile away.....
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#1184377
Monday Aug 11
 
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Thousands of people die every year from taking legal drugs.
Who said he overdosed? He might have been murdered.
never suggested that Williams overdosed......

but he had a long history of substance abuse that likely led to his depression and (apparent) suicide....
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Monday Aug 11
 
Incognito4Ever wrote:
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Bernie Sanders is a socialist. Considering that communism is a socioeconomic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production and characterized by the absence of social classes, money, and the state; as well as a social, political and economic ideology and movement that aims to establish this social order, and old Bernie is just a few steps away from this...same difference.
He may not want to throw dissenters in a gulag...at least not yet. Or condone the state seizing personal property...at least not yet. But when the state runs out of other people's money and people start dissenting, it makes power hungry control freaks do crazy things.
Especially in a country this large with the potential for a lot of dissenters who could upset the socialists' applecart. We're not the size of European countries who also have socioeconomic systems with rioting in the streets when the state runs out of their money.
Bernie Sanders is a outspoken Socialist the only reason he is registered as a Independent is there is no National Socialist Party recognized in major elections so he sticks to Independent even though he always caucuses with the Democrats.

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#1184379
Monday Aug 11
 
We can only wonder what tomorrow will bring. Each new day brings more carnage and instability on the foreign front and more confusion and chaos on the home front.

But at least Obama gets updates in between teeing off and yelling "FORE!"

God help those in the path of terrorists in the meantime and our becoming a more vulnerable target.

The Wall Street Journal nailed Obama's detachment and underestimating ISIL for the past year:

"Perhaps history will mark this as the week that President Obama recognized that evil unimpeded will devour everything before it."

Still not sure he's getting it.

If you've never prayed before, now's probably a good time to start.
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#1184380
Monday Aug 11
 
Incognito4Ever wrote:
We can only wonder what tomorrow will bring. Each new day brings more carnage and instability on the foreign front and more confusion and chaos on the home front.
But at least Obama gets updates in between teeing off and yelling "FORE!"
God help those in the path of terrorists in the meantime and our becoming a more vulnerable target.
The Wall Street Journal nailed Obama's detachment and underestimating ISIL for the past year:
"Perhaps history will mark this as the week that President Obama recognized that evil unimpeded will devour everything before it."
Still not sure he's getting it.
If you've never prayed before, now's probably a good time to start.
Couldn't agree with you more GBY.
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#1184382
Tuesday Aug 12
 
Progressives are wincing over Clinton’s foreign policy comments in a blockbuster interview with The Atlantic, saying her statements are excessively hawkish and reminiscent of her past support for the war in Iraq. Some foreign policy experts, meanwhile, are criticizing her views as too simplistic; one analyst called them downright disloyal to President Barack Obama.

In the interview with prominent foreign affairs writer Jeffrey Goldberg, Clinton called Obama’s decision not to back Syrian rebels early on a “failure;” stood staunchly with Israel in its fight against Hamas; took a tough tone on Iran; and said that the West Wing’s foreign policy mantra —“Don’t do stupid stuff”— is “not an organizing principle.”

Clinton has always been more of a hawk than Obama, whom she served under as secretary of state during his first term. But for many liberals, whose enthusiasm will be important if she runs again for president in 2016, her comments simply felt like code for Bush-era interventionism.

“She basically seems to be taking positions that are very similar to the vision of America’s role in the world that [in 2008] Democrats rejected,” explained Michael Cohen, a fellow at the progressive Century Foundation. That approach, he said, was “out of touch with Democrats in 2008, and it’s out of touch now.”

Prominent liberal writer Joan Walsh wrote at Salon.com that she expects to support Clinton if she runs in 2016, but she called the interview “sobering.”

“Clinton may think she can write off the anti-interventionist left — again — and win the White House this time,” Walsh warned.“But she may find out she’s wrong this time, too.”

And Glenn Greenwald, the journalist who helped publish Edward Snowden’s National Security Agency leaks, sniped on Twitter that Clinton is “demanding more militarism and violence.”

In the 2008 Democratic primary, Clinton positioned herself as an experienced hand who could handle the “3 a.m. phone call.” She was pilloried for that by the Democratic base, and the war-weary grass roots turned instead to Obama, who was able to position himself as the more anti-war candidate.

Polls today also indicate that Americans have little appetite for much overseas engagement, even as chaos is erupting in theater after theater — including Iraq, where Obama recently authorized airstrikes against Islamist militants.

At the same time, an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll from earlier this month showed Obama’s approval rating at an “all-time low.” Fairly or not, Clinton’s interview was seen by many political observers as an opportunity for her to separate herself from an unpopular president, and some found that distasteful.

“My understanding is that there’s political utility in her bad-mouthing the president now,” said Ian Bremmer, the president of the Eurasia Group.“But it’s bad for foreign policy. It is disloyal …When Hillary does it, it’s a bigger deal. It does more damage.”?

One Obama ally described Clinton’s maneuver this way:“Inevitable. Predictable. Authentically HRC in a fashion that reminds people like me why we opposed her so strongly in 2007.”

A Clinton aide replied that the interview, posted over the weekend,“was a long-planned-for target on a list of interviews around the book — and not part of an overarching political strategy related to 2016, or anything else for that matter.”

One key difference in the run-up to the presidential race this time, in contrast to 2008 is that, for Democrats, there’s no clear, competitive alternative to Clinton. Liberal grass-roots darlings such as Elizabeth Warren have said they are not running, and there’s no Obama-like figure on the scene. Also, unlike 2008, there is no other candidate who can overwhelmingly win black voters, a key part of the base, like Clinton could.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/hillary ...

*Hillary is going to bury Obama's Foreign Policy where it belongs firmly up B.O.'s A$$.

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#1184384
Tuesday Aug 12
 
Incognito4Ever wrote:
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Al Sharpton makes his living from race baiting and keeping racial divisiveness alive and well.
He reminds me of a bobble head these days.
But you knew that too, right?
Al Sharpton is not an excuse for you or anyone to condone racial slurs.
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#1184386
Tuesday Aug 12
 
OH NO... YOU FOOLS NOT TRYIN' TO CONTROL THIS CONVERSATION, IS YOU? THIS NOT WORK OUT WELL... JESSICA... I'M ALL OVER YOUR JEW ASS HONEY.. YOU BES' HIDE...
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#1184388
Tuesday Aug 12
 
DEVIL GET THE IMPRESSION YOU WAN' TO PLAY WITH HIM, JESS?... DON' BE A FOOL.. DON' BE A FOOL...
THE DEVIL

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#1184390
Tuesday Aug 12
 
OVER TO YOU, CHET....
Grey Ghost

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#1184391
Tuesday Aug 12
 
harmonious wrote:
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Hilarious to watch old Shrillary attack BO, ain't it?
That would be the desperate idiots version.

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Spring, TX

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#1184393
Tuesday Aug 12
 
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>What's the matter son? Hate facts?
Well, you clearly are running at the mouth like the normal idiot you are only this time with steroids to 'boost' your 'mentatlity.'
I know you're not intelligent.. because you keep attempting to prove it many times over!!!
Oh, and I don't expect a factual answer from you. I really only expect either insults, or for the scared little mouse that you are to simply dump, run and hide.
But when you come back, I'm sure you'll enjoy your crow...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_campaign...
Let's go over the facts again.
You ran your mouth about land being taken, dufus. So, tell us what countries that land was taken from to create Israel. I'm sure you weren't talking just to hear yourself make noise.
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#1184394
Tuesday Aug 12
 
Incognito4Ever wrote:
We can only wonder what tomorrow will bring. Each new day brings more carnage and instability on the foreign front and more confusion and chaos on the home front.
But at least Obama gets updates in between teeing off and yelling "FORE!"
God help those in the path of terrorists in the meantime and our becoming a more vulnerable target.
The Wall Street Journal nailed Obama's detachment and underestimating ISIL for the past year:
"Perhaps history will mark this as the week that President Obama recognized that evil unimpeded will devour everything before it."
Still not sure he's getting it.
If you've never prayed before, now's probably a good time to start.
Mindless gibberish!

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#1184395
Tuesday Aug 12
 
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>The Vietnam War was won… until Democrats chose to intentionally lose it.
In November of 1974, three months after Nixon resigned in disgrace, Democrats won a landslide in the mid-term elections. The new Democrat majority in Congress de-funded our promised military aid to South Vietnam, and the Viet Cong made their move. Without American aid, the South Vietnamese were doomed. Then-President Gerald Ford literally begged Congress to restore funding. By this time things had deteriorated to a point where the South would have also required American airstrikes to hold on. Democrats adamantly refused funding, making the airstrikes futile. Within a year, South Vietnam surrendered to the communist North. America's indifference also assured that the dominoes of Cambodia and Laos fell, and the holocaust known as the Killing Fields began. Before it was over, two to five million innocents were butchered -- all because Democrats were determined to lose a war that had already been won and which could have stayed won with nothing more than a very small financial commitment and limited airstrikes. My uncle was killed in the Tenet Offensive, I come to learn, and liberals laughed at me, so I have researched to see why liberals lied. It is the same reason they are lying now about Iraq.
The most important thing to the Democrats was to create the image of the United States as a loser. To accomplish this goal, the Democrats invented a system of lies about Vietnam that took 30 years to expose, and sabotaged South Vietnam. The Democrats are the only reason Southeast Asia endured statistically the worst episode of mass murder in the history of civilization, and the people of South Vietnam were enslaved in communism under a mass murdering dictator instead of becoming a thriving country with a prosperous middle class. There is no reason there would be any difference between South Vietnam and South Korea if the Democrats did not join the communists during the Cold War and sabotage South Vietnam.

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#1184396
Tuesday Aug 12
 
RealDave wrote:
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Al Sharpton is not an excuse for you or anyone to condone racial slurs.
Stop being a racial slur and people will stop using racial slurs, moron.

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#1184397
Tuesday Aug 12
 
Deocrats are morons. For just one of many examples:

People eat at fast food franchises because it's cheap.
Democrats want the people who chose to make a career working in fast food restaurants to be paid $15.00 an hour.
If everyone working in a fast food franchise was paid $15.00 an hour, it would not be cheap to eat there.
If it's not cheap to eat there, nobody will eat there.
If nobody eats there, the franchise fails.
When the franchise fails, everyone loses their job and nobody gets $15.00 an hour.

You can't get more stupid than this.
PDUPONT

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Tuesday Aug 12
 
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>If Obama would take personal responsibility for his radical actions,words and deeds, no one would have to point fingers. If you could interview people in any part of the world that is in turmoil or injured,indigent,starving,impr isoned or exploited people any where in the world and asked them to give you the name of a person that has commonality to all,that person would have to be Barack Hussein Obama. That is the responsibility that goes with the burden of living in The White House and living the lifestyle of a billionaire elitist.
You're full of crap as usual Frank. The problems in Iraq can be directly attributed to George W Bush's disastrous invasion that gave free rein to the various factions that Saddam Hussein kept in check. It's not like they didn't know it was going to happen either. Here's what Dick Cheney said in 1995;
"Once you got to Iraq and took it over and took down Saddam Hussein’s government, then what are you gonna put in its place? That’s a very violent part of the world, and if you take down the central government in Iraq, you can easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off. Part of it the Syrians would like to have to the west; part of eastern Iraq the Iranians would like to claim, fought over for eight years; in the north you’ve got the Kurds. The Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey. It’s a, it’s a quagmire.
Another thing was casualties. Everyone was impressed with the fact that we were able to do our job with as few casualties as we had. But for the 146 Americans killed in action, and for their families, it wasn’t a cheap war. And the question for the president, in terms of whether or not we went on to Baghdad and took additional casualties in an effort to get Saddam Hussein, was how many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? And our judgement was not very many and I think we got it right."
Of course that was before Halliburton got into financial trouble because of Cheney's actions as CEO and needed an influx of revenue that their no bid contracts to provide shoddy and overpriced services in Iraq provided them.
And let's give Bush the credit that's due for the fact that Hamas is in charge of Gaza.
much of the blame goes to President George W. Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice for pushing prematurely for parliamentary elections and then--when they didn't like the outcome--a bungled coup that left Hamas triumphant and in total control.
Warned that Fatah wasn't ready for elections in which Palestinians fed up with years of Arafat's corruption and cronyism might punish Abbas' party, President Bush said he "wanted to give Palestinians the chance to choose new leaders, ones who were not 'compromised by terror.'" But in January 2006, that's exactly what Bush got, as Hamas won 76 of 132 seats in the Palestinian parliament. As the New York Times reported at the time:
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice acknowledged Sunday that the United States had failed to understand the depth of hostility among Palestinians toward their longtime leaders. The hostility led to an election victory by the militant group Hamas that has reduced to tatters crucial assumptions underlying American policies and hopes in the Middle East.
You're an idiot Frank; you always have been and always will be!

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