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Nov 10, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

Russian policeman fired for YouTube call for end to corruption

Full story: Telegraph.co.uk

A provincial policeman's emotional YouTube appeal to Vladimir Putin for an end to police corruption has become an internet hit.

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Nov 10, 2009
 
In russia, the corrupted are hero's, and the conscientious and innocent are the bad guys. Wait until the death penality is restored.
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Nov 10, 2009
 
The cop was fired..Ah! the power of the corrupted authority in Putin's dictatorship country. The safest place in russia is in the police force.

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Nov 10, 2009
 
russia is a corrupt country,run by ex-kgb agents and criminals.

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The cop was fired
At least he's still alive. That's progress, believe me.:)

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YouTube is not a proper place to protest your employer, not in any country.
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Nov 10, 2009
 
nmweatherman wrote:
YouTube is not a proper place to protest your employer, not in any country.
true the corrupt in any country will get you fired.

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Nov 10, 2009
 
nmweatherman wrote:
YouTube is not a proper place to protest your employer, not in any country.
Yes, he should have written to his superior's superiors who are being deceived and would definitely react to this.

He also should write to Russia's media, which while controlled by the government, has peoples best interests in mind and wouldn't let such a move go unnoticed.
Matti

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Nov 11, 2009
 
I see two alternatives;
either he self decided to do this and soon he dies in mystical conditions or
this is started from Kremlin to begin some new campaign against corruption.
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Nov 11, 2009
 
nmweatherman wrote:
YouTube is not a proper place to protest your employer, not in any country.
The cop was just pleading to Putin to end the corruption in the Police force. What other avenues or choices did he have to be heard. Report it to his superiors??? lol. The cop is a decent guy trying to stop corruption. A good cop surrounded by the wolf's circle of bad ones.
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Nov 11, 2009
 
nmweatherman wrote:
YouTube is not a proper place to protest your employer, not in any country.
Please can you tell how to stop the corruption in military or police forces.
What other effective alternatives had been available if the system is fully corrupted inside?
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Nov 11, 2009
 
Boy that Judge. He's got good insight.
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Nov 11, 2009
 
Hippocrates once said that walking is man's best medicine. He also said russian sheep sheared of their wool, end up as mutton chops for their masters.

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Matti wrote:
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Please can you tell how to stop the corruption in military or police forces.
What other effective alternatives had been available if the system is fully corrupted inside?
There is no real way to combat corruption in the military or police forces in any country.

In America we have in the police forces Internal Affairs, who are supposed to investigate citizen complaints and police corruption. This isn't 100% effective because no one trusts the police to investigate themselves.

I am surprised a progressive country like Russia does not have Internal Affairs investigators. Does Finland have this?
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nmweatherman wrote:
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There is no real way to combat corruption in the military or police forces in any country.
In America we have in the police forces Internal Affairs, who are supposed to investigate citizen complaints and police corruption. This isn't 100% effective because no one trusts the police to investigate themselves.
I am surprised a progressive country like Russia does not have Internal Affairs investigators. Does Finland have this?
For surre we have like I think all democratic countries do.
This problem excists mainly in autocratic and "third world" countries.
May be you don't know Russia from inside.

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Nov 12, 2009
 
Matti wrote:
May be you don't know Russia from inside.
I would love to know Russia from the inside. Russia has a long and noble history, but Putin and Medvedev are riding a wild horse trying to govern it.

One does not become a democracy overnight. But Russia has been trying, and the world has to applaud them for that effort.

Corruption is everywhere...the USA is full of it from Washington DC on down. Perhaps Finland has its corruption.

The Russian policeman chose the wrong way to gain Putin's attention. If I did that here in America, the Secret Service would be all over me!
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The Russian policeman chose the wrong way to gain Putin's attention. If I did that here in America, the Secret Service would be all over me!
For sure that is true!
In USA you probably should not be so much afraid of your own life as you should in Russia after doing this.
For sure there is corruption also in Finland. In Finland the police forces are in strict control (and often for them it is hard to fifht against hard criminals, as the criminals can accuse the policemen too easily). People in Finland often think, that criminals are better protected and have better rights as do the policemen (and normal citizes) have.
Also the prisons in Finland are more like three star hotels than any prisons. In prison you do have your own toilet, path, TV, stereo, internet, full meals, better medical care than for normal citizens (and much better than for old people) etc. All this will cost the Finnish taxpayer money more than 1200 USD per day per prisoner (432000 USD per year)!
I would gladly help for example third world countries by sending our prisoners to them and paying for them 100 USD per day per prison to keep the prisoners (36000 USD per year).
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nmweatherman wrote:
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I would love to know Russia from the inside. Russia has a long and noble history, but Putin and Medvedev are riding a wild horse trying to govern it.
One does not become a democracy overnight. But Russia has been trying, and the world has to applaud them for that effort.
Corruption is everywhere...the USA is full of it from Washington DC on down. Perhaps Finland has its corruption.
The Russian policeman chose the wrong way to gain Putin's attention. If I did that here in America, the Secret Service would be all over me!
In the USA, the police officer would have access to eager news media and other resources to publicize his charges. It would become a big media event. Even the politicians would jump into and support his cause. Russia and the USA are apples and oranges.

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Nov 12, 2009
 
For Matti:

Denmarks' prisons are very much the same. In Russia at least the jails and prisons are places you do NOT want to go to.

For The Judge:

Yes, the USA media go after statements from police. The evening news is full of crime. But the police are limited to reporting facts of the arrest and the crime involved. They must be very careful not to have a video "trial." That's for our innumerable lawyers to do. The police can ruin their arrest (bust) by judging the arrested.

Russian police are tough! They don't just take you down and handcuff you...they beat the crap out of you if you piss them off! Maybe even if you don't piss them off! They are rough and tough! I wish American police could do this...but they get prosecuted if they do! It ruins their career.

Why do I wish this? Because you've no idea of the lowlife disgusting violent criminals we have in the USA.
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