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That's what drives the world crazy. You know what the feeling of oppression is yet you perpetuate and justify it unto others. This is a apparently characteristic of what it is to be a Zionist. You Jews think that you're the only ones who have lost family- you're not! There have been many many wars and holocaust in the world- only difference is is that there is not a massive publicity campaign an effort to win over world opinion through sympathy. The world is dumbfounded to the Jews lack of ability to sympathize. We're perplexed and we seem to know know that it might have something to do with your religious leaders. What is the difference between you/your people and Hitler??? You kill degrade and dehumanize and to top it off you try and justify killing even civilians, women and children, humanitarians etc etc...
Forgive your enemies-love one another! These are the words of Jesus and they're a far stone throw away from hatred that Zionism is spreading every day and manifesting in the minds of it's youth.
Read the New Testament and then see how blind you really are to God.
when you chirstians start forgive your enemies and love one another
you can come and ask that from us.
where there not australian soldiers in afghanistan and iraq?
how many civlians deaths these wars brought? did it cross the 1 milion line?
we are fighting for our survival you joined wars across the world against people you never met.
where is te forgiving where is the love?
i am sure jesus ment well but implementing those ideas is commiting national suicide which i thought was also a sin in christianity.
we will not put our people at risk just so hypocrites like you would not have to "suffer" watching the outcomes of war on tv.

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fanatic minority??? Your armies Chief Rabbi Told the soldiers that it was ok to kill people.
The soldiers testified that the Rabbi's told them to kill civilians. Don't talk rubbish and don't back peddle.
Can you support your claim?

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bach7 wrote:
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Don't twist the words around. This is what she said:
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For you people "MORALS" is only when the Jews let their enemies lead them to carnage. When the Jew fight back is always "war crimes".
Now read it again and try to UNDERSTAND what i ment.

C'mon, it's not THAT hard.

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That's what drives the world crazy. You know what the feeling of oppression is yet you perpetuate and justify it unto others. This is a apparently characteristic of what it is to be a Zionist. You Jews think that you're the only ones who have lost family- you're not! There have been many many wars and holocaust in the world- only difference is is that there is not a massive publicity campaign an effort to win over world opinion through sympathy. The world is dumbfounded to the Jews lack of ability to sympathize. We're perplexed and we seem to know know that it might have something to do with your religious leaders. What is the difference between you/your people and Hitler??? You kill degrade and dehumanize and to top it off you try and justify killing even civilians, women and children, humanitarians etc etc...
Forgive your enemies-love one another! These are the words of Jesus and they're a far stone throw away from hatred that Zionism is spreading every day and manifesting in the minds of it's youth.
Read the New Testament and then see how blind you really are to God.
You can't forgive your enemy once your DEAD, now can you??
Jesus told you people to be forgiving and kind to each other, to love the enemy?
that's GREAT. really it is.
But once you open your eyes and take a good look around you, you'll see that the commun enemy we and you have does not give a DAMN what Jesus told you.
You Christians are taught to "turn the other cheek", to react with a kiss to a slap, that is also what you expect the Jews to do.
Guess what? The Jews DID THAT.
Too many times.
All the time Christians and Muslims acted against the Jews, we stayed together.
When you people burned synagoges and painted crosses on Jewish graves, you never got any act of vengeance.
All the mythos about "Jewish using Christian blood in Passover" never brought reaction of killing Christians or shooting nuns, like Muslims did when Denmark draw Muhammad.
before the war started, many Jews refused to leave Germany, claiming it's their homeland, believing that the German people were better then that.
Endless cases of Jews TURNING THE OTHER CHEEK.
It never payed off. so we started fighting back.
and instead of learning from that, you people start pushing it.
HOW DARE THE EVIL JEW FIGHT FOR SURVIVLE?
Guess what, the days when the Jew was poor and weak in your eyes are LONG GONE.
DEAL WITH IT

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bach7 wrote:
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That's what drives the world crazy. You know what the feeling of oppression is yet you perpetuate and justify it unto others. This is a apparently characteristic of what it is to be a Zionist. You Jews think that you're the only ones who have lost family- you're not! There have been many many wars and holocaust in the world- only difference is is that there is not a massive publicity campaign an effort to win over world opinion through sympathy. The world is dumbfounded to the Jews lack of ability to sympathize. We're perplexed and we seem to know know that it might have something to do with your religious leaders. What is the difference between you/your people and Hitler??? You kill degrade and dehumanize and to top it off you try and justify killing even civilians, women and children, humanitarians etc etc...
Forgive your enemies-love one another! These are the words of Jesus and they're a far stone throw away from hatred that Zionism is spreading every day and manifesting in the minds of it's youth.
Read the New Testament and then see how blind you really are to God.
WE do what to others?
Tell me, where have you been in the past 8 years?
When my friends woke up full of sweat to the "RED COLOR" Alarm you were having a nice full sunny day where you lived.
When your children or nephews are laughing with their friends in kindergarden, the children in my area have to sing quietly to themselves to get over the fear of when the Kassam missle will hit the groud.
When the teacher of your children tries to gather them over the noise, teachers in our place don't need to do that.
The children know how to gather themselves in less then 15 seconds!
Tell me, when your children are paying in the school or in the backyard, are they afraid to look at the sky?
when they are at class, i bet their desks are only for them to write on, not to cover their bodies once the alarm is on.
Where have YOU BEEN when those cases happen?
Where you fighting for their rights like you do now for the Palestinians?
It's good to fight for what you believe is right and go against the wrong.
But not to be biased.
We never justify killing civilians.
but when those civilians are used as humen shileds, and when the enemy does not have at leat a LITTLE appriciasion for their own families lives, you expect people NOT TO DIE?.
We don't live in LA-LA land, this is the middle east.

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How does someone like Bach become so obsessed with Jews that they spend every waking moment worrying about what Jews do and don't do?

I seriously doubt he's even met more than five Jews in his entire life.

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Rick Moss wrote:
How does someone like Bach become so obsessed with Jews that they spend every waking moment worrying about what Jews do and don't do?
I seriously doubt he's even met more than five Jews in his entire life.
There are many around this forum that are "Bottom Feeders" They feed on the bottom of the pile media biases, they spew it all out in the same bias. Unfortunately a forum like this only gives them a open space to spew out all the trash they are indoctrinated with.
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the problem with gene moss , Naftoly Weber , Schmulik Cohen , yolie gertner and stanley marcus is not only their support for the zionist war criminals ........... the zionists hijacked FOX NEWS , MOODY RADIO , Congress and the judeciary ......... making the US an accomplice in the judeo - fascist rampages ........ the GOLDSTONE REPORT proves that izrael is not a legitimate state ........ jewish is a religion ....zionism is a racist cult of theocratic KKK nightriders .
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ALEX wrote:
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when you chirstians start forgive your enemies and love one another
you can come and ask that from us.
where there not australian soldiers in afghanistan and iraq?
how many civlians deaths these wars brought? did it cross the 1 milion line?
we are fighting for our survival you joined wars across the world against people you never met.
where is te forgiving where is the love?
i am sure jesus ment well but implementing those ideas is commiting national suicide which i thought was also a sin in christianity.
we will not put our people at risk just so hypocrites like you would not have to "suffer" watching the outcomes of war on tv.
Australia is a secular state you moron. The Vatican denounced the Iraq war as an unjust war and pleaded with Bush to not engage/initiate. The Invasion of both Afghanistan and Iraq were motivated by the 2011 September attack on American soil due to Islamic hatred towards America and the Wests biased support of the terrorist state of Israel.
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Lipush wrote:
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Can you support your claim?
Easy

Rabbi Shlomo Aviner is a spiritual leader of the Jewish settlers in the occupied W Bank

"When you show mercy to a cruel enemy you are being cruel to pure and honest soldiers. These are not games at the amusement park where sportsmanship teaches one to make concessions. This is a war on murderers," Yesh Din quoted the pamphlet as saying.

IDF rabbinate publication during Gaza war: We will show no mercy on the cruel
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1058758.h...

A group of ex-Israeli soldiers who created an activist group named Breaking the Silence, claim that the army rabbinate has been encouraging Israeli soldiers to disregard international laws of war that protect civilians.
The Israeli newspaper Haaretz points out that text made available to Israeli troops "steps blatantly into politics, sounds racist and can be interpreted as a call to challenge international law when it comes to dealing with enemy civilians."
http://aidanmaconachyblog.blogspot.com/2009/0...

One told soldiers in a pep talk during the Gaza war that their holiness would preserve them in the battle between the 'children of light' and the 'children of darkness.'
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0814/p10s01-wom...

Pro-Settler Rabbi Tells IDF Troops Vatican and Hezbollah Conspire to Exterminate Jews
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/...

Military rabbis are becoming more powerful. Trained in warfare as well as religion, new army regulations mean they are now part of a military elite.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnig...
ALEX

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Australia is a secular state you moron. The Vatican denounced the Iraq war as an unjust war and pleaded with Bush to not engage/initiate. The Invasion of both Afghanistan and Iraq were motivated by the 2011 September attack on American soil due to Islamic hatred towards America and the Wests biased support of the terrorist state of Israel.
you are a christian and your country you idiot.
YOUR country took part in these wars, YOUR country is responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands if not hundereds of thousands and still you look for a way to blame the jews for this.
what diffrent does it make if you are a secular state you moron?
but i guess racists like you can only see the wrongs israel does.
just like the turkish president saying about darfur that genocide didn't take place because muslims can't commit genocide.
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bach7 wrote:
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Rabbi Shlomo Aviner is a spiritual leader of the Jewish settlers in the occupied W Bank
"When you show mercy to a cruel enemy you are being cruel to pure and honest soldiers. These are not games at the amusement park where sportsmanship teaches one to make concessions. This is a war on murderers," Yesh Din quoted the pamphlet as saying.
IDF rabbinate publication during Gaza war: We will show no mercy on the cruel
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1058758.h...
A group of ex-Israeli soldiers who created an activist group named Breaking the Silence, claim that the army rabbinate has been encouraging Israeli soldiers to disregard international laws of war that protect civilians.
The Israeli newspaper Haaretz points out that text made available to Israeli troops "steps blatantly into politics, sounds racist and can be interpreted as a call to challenge international law when it comes to dealing with enemy civilians."
http://aidanmaconachyblog.blogspot.com/2009/0...
One told soldiers in a pep talk during the Gaza war that their holiness would preserve them in the battle between the 'children of light' and the 'children of darkness.'
http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0814/p10s01-wom...
Pro-Settler Rabbi Tells IDF Troops Vatican and Hezbollah Conspire to Exterminate Jews
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/...
Military rabbis are becoming more powerful. Trained in warfare as well as religion, new army regulations mean they are now part of a military elite.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnig...
so you admit you were lying right?
you said "Chief Rabbi Told the soldiers that it was ok to kill people."
"The soldiers testified that the Rabbi's told them to kill civilians."
and like you always do, you have no way to back this up.

this is not the armys chief Rabbi like you in your lies and no where does it says that they were told to killed civilians.
yeah the enemy is cruel and the enemy is hamas and in war soldiers should kill as much of the enemy as possible or they would kill them.
god will not forgive you for all these lies and slandering.
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ALEX wrote:
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you are a christian and your country you idiot.
YOUR country took part in these wars, YOUR country is responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands if not hundereds of thousands and still you look for a way to blame the jews for this.
what diffrent does it make if you are a secular state you moron?
but i guess racists like you can only see the wrongs israel does.
just like the turkish president saying about darfur that genocide didn't take place because muslims can't commit genocide.
You really are stupid aren't you. Being a secular country means that it's not run by religion. That's something that your people don't understand. The whole reason why America went to war is because of the Zionists
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<quoted text> You really are stupid aren't you. Being a secular country means that it's not run by religion. That's something that your people don't understand. The whole reason why America went to war is because of the Zionists
oh so being secular also means you have no obligation for morals?
wouldn't it be great to go back to the good all days when christian religion did run countrys, you know like the days of the spanish inquisition, forcing to convert torturing and murdering does who didn't or the moral days of the crusades.
the fun moral days when jewish holly books were being burned around europe.
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Men are fallible- what can I say. Yes we have had some bad people in the church- and yes Christian, like Jews and Muslims will commit ungodly crimes. However one difference remains. We have infallible doctrine..

The New Testament teaches love, respect, forgiveness and loving your God. I thank god that nowhere in our doctrine does it tell us that we are better than anyone else- or that we have superiority over anyone else or that we are to hate anyone else. In fact it teaches us the contrary. It tells us that we will be persecuted but to endure and stay true to God. I don't think you realize how many Christians perished as Islam spread by the sword from Arabia to Assyria to Persia and Phonecia etc etc and into Asia and Europe.

But we don't carry the burden of hatred in our hearts-(we're not supposed to anyway). That is satan turning man against man and man against God.

Christ taught us that you are my brothers and even if you hate me I'm to love you. Part of love is criticism... and part of loving everyone is also loving the Palestinians- That's why I criticize Israel for oppressing people.

That's our doctrine- but men have freewill and men are corrupt and men will submit themselves to sin for the reward of riches and power etc etc..(yes even some popes)
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Anyway I don't want to argue with you any more (unless you force me to) but I do hope that Israel reconciles and moves on in a more positive nature. Hatred only bring despair for everyone-
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bach7 wrote:
Men are fallible- what can I say. Yes we have had some bad people in the church- and yes Christian, like Jews and Muslims will commit ungodly crimes. However one difference remains. We have infallible doctrine..
The New Testament teaches love, respect, forgiveness and loving your God. I thank god that nowhere in our doctrine does it tell us that we are better than anyone else- or that we have superiority over anyone else or that we are to hate anyone else. In fact it teaches us the contrary. It tells us that we will be persecuted but to endure and stay true to God. I don't think you realize how many Christians perished as Islam spread by the sword from Arabia to Assyria to Persia and Phonecia etc etc and into Asia and Europe.
But we don't carry the burden of hatred in our hearts-(we're not supposed to anyway). That is satan turning man against man and man against God.
Christ taught us that you are my brothers and even if you hate me I'm to love you. Part of love is criticism... and part of loving everyone is also loving the Palestinians- That's why I criticize Israel for oppressing people.
That's our doctrine- but men have freewill and men are corrupt and men will submit themselves to sin for the reward of riches and power etc etc..(yes even some popes)
so i see how it works for christians its "a few bad apples" for jews its a jewish monopoly on slavery...
your writing may teach you to not to see yourself as better than anyone else and to love all people but your words and are 180 degrees from that.
your writing might be morals but what are writings worth if they are not being followed.
you don't want to agrue than don't but keep in mind that when you try to delegitimize and demonize the jewish and muslim faiths people will not let you get away with it, remember its christians that turn the other cheek not jews.
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so i see how it works for christians its "a few bad apples" for jews its a jewish monopoly on slavery...
your writing may teach you to not to see yourself as better than anyone else and to love all people but your words and are 180 degrees from that.
your writing might be morals but what are writings worth if they are not being followed.
you don't want to agrue than don't but keep in mind that when you try to delegitimize and demonize the jewish and muslim faiths people will not let you get away with it, remember its christians that turn the other cheek not jews.
Brother it's not me who is making excuses for atrocities committed daily on a helpless people. My criticisms of Zion are valid. Try to look at it in an objective manner keeping in mind that whether Jew or gentile all men are created equal and in the image of God.
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<quoted text>Brother it's not me who is making excuses for atrocities committed daily on a helpless people. My criticisms of Zion are valid. Try to look at it in an objective manner keeping in mind that whether Jew or gentile all men are created equal and in the image of God.
all men are created equal and in the image of God that is true once manage to convince all palestinians that jews also have rights there might be a chance for them for a nice life.
but the truth is and what you don't seem to get through your head is that the are not " a helpless people" a large part of them does not want israel and jew around the middle east and are activily trying to destory the nation of israel.
until you come up with a better solution to the security problems we face you have no say.
its easy to say what not to do when you don't have to say what should you do.
its easy to say, tear down the wall remove checkpoints don't defand yourself when you don't have to suffer the thousands of deads these actions will bring.
try and understand hamas will NEVER stop killing us until israel is gone and they control all of the land NEVER EVER, they say so themselves.
now try and think of way, and remember jewish lives are not worth any less than so called "helpless palestinians".

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bach7 wrote:
<quoted text>Brother it's not me who is making excuses for atrocities committed daily on a helpless people. My criticisms of Zion are valid. Try to look at it in an objective manner keeping in mind that whether Jew or gentile all men are created equal and in the image of God.
You can't ask someone who is to involved in a problem to be "objective". it never works.
And i say it from experience.
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