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My stupid and arrogant friend from mighty country, Ukraine pays for gas one of the biggest price in Europe and pays in time.

And you conflict with yourself, you say Russians are different in comparison with 68 and then you say they're going to take over someone. You're indeed very stupid if you don't know that a war between our countries is impossible.
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Oh, and if you believe in everything Kremlin and comrade Putin says it's different story. My condolences, it doesn't heal.

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now, educate yourself my little ukrainka peasant !
Ukraine's state oil and gas company Naftogaz is seeking a loan of up to 400 million euros ($580 million) from the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD), the country's finance minister said.

The loan will be used to help the company maintain stable natural gas imports from Russia and gas transit through Ukraine's pipeline system to the European Union.

EBRD earlier said its board of directors would meet on November 17 to discuss the issue of support for Ukraine's gas sector. The support program would focus on financing gas purchasing, and investment in gas transit infrastructure.

Ukraine is also seeking a syndicated loan of over $4 billion from European banks to pay it gas supply debts to Russian energy giant Gazprom.

now, how do you meet your payments ?
therefore, youshko went tu brussels to beg again !
noisy

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How my pesky friend it contradicts with what I said above?

Some much more rich countries from EU seeks for loans too, don't you know that?

Do you call asking for credit in a bank begging?

> therefore, youshko went tu brussels to beg again !

Not truth.
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Specially for you once again, the visits of the President have nothing to do with asking for credit. Government deals with monetary agreements.

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yes, many countries asked for loans, but ukrainkas embezzled the money, and yushko´s in EU every three months.
like i already mentioned, soon russians are taking over by installing their people in ukrainka, win the next election, problems are solved.
you are not capable to manage your own affairs.
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pesky, how do you know "ukrainkas" embezzled the money? Did comrade Putin or Medvedev tell you so?

What you mean by 'their people'? We always have had many Russians in government and in all state structures. If you mean something like 'Kremlin's agents', sorry, it's impossible, but you may invite them to Slovakia if you wish.

As for we're not capable to manage our affairs, you my friend is not capable of discerning developing democracy from dictatorship. Yes, the dictatorship is always more stable. At the start.

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all right, now you are talking.
dictatorship is needed in ukrainka, an iron hand to rule over you, otherwise you create chaos only.
have you ever watched your politicians debating, i saw klichko the other day, even he must be tired of their stupidity.
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It's you opinion, but I don't care what is better for you, I care what is better for us.

Dictatorship is never better in long prospects, it slowly accumulates social blow, and then the blow shatters the regime and country. Chechoslovakia has never been a part of USSR just because of its geographic position, I would like to see what you would sing now if it was, an what politicians you'd have.

Debate of our politicians are funny to see, they're surely hot, especially after Russian political "debates" which are basically strictly limited scope of things you're allowed to discuss, and only 'proper' people are allowed to participate, how is it a bad thing?
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pesky the real deal wrote:
may i just let you know, in 68 those were different russians in comparison to today´s russia.
also, slovakia knows how to govern themselves, but ukrainka doesn´t.
have you not heard the latest ?
once again, no money for gas.
hope, you have plenty of chopped wood in your shack.
Tak Pissy different Rocciyans, but the SAME POLICY conceal, deny and lie and CORRUPTION! Pissy I seen the latest news from Moosecow the opposition walking out of parliament accusing the government (Pootiniski) of CORRUPTION! Justlike I always said that PooTinisnkli and his puppy Meddy are linibng up their pockets with silver while the average Rocciyans are living well below poverty. So Pissy have you lined up for your begging bowl for some rozie rocciyan borshet? So Pissy have you siphoned enough gazz from the Ukrainian pipelines to heat your manure hut? Oh Pissy there is gazz in your outhouse to last through the winter. Oh hear that heavy snow fell on your manure hut
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pesky the real deal wrote:
all right, now you are talking.
dictatorship is needed in ukrainka, an iron hand to rule over you, otherwise you create chaos only.
have you ever watched your politicians debating, i saw klichko the other day, even he must be tired of their stupidity.
Now your talking stupid Pissy
When you have a dictator you call that DEMOCRACY???You can keep your dick dictator pootiniski and his Puppy Meddy. there is NO DEMOCRACY in Roccia only Corruption. You like to see Pootiniski and Meddy lining up their own pockets and giving plenty of rubbles to their cronies that support them!!! There is plenty of choas going on your head Pissy as you simply DO NOT UNDERSTAND the meaning of democracy. Everyone in here is tired of your stupidity and your little nose dripples and your smelly manure. Pissy you write that Roccian changed and yet it got tanks at every border waiting to roll in. Pissy you think that your mannure fence will with stand the new super tank that roccia is hiding? Pissy your poor manure hut would be squashed likr your manure beetles. You would not stand a chance. Tak Pissy you like to take orders from your dictator! Now Pissy go and scrub the Rocciyan Black Sea junk!
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pesky the real deal wrote:
now, educate yourself my little ukrainka peasant !
Ukraine's state oil and gas company Naftogaz is seeking a loan of up to 400 million euros ($580 million) from the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD), the country's finance minister said.
The loan will be used to help the company maintain stable natural gas imports from Russia and gas transit through Ukraine's pipeline system to the European Union.
EBRD earlier said its board of directors would meet on November 17 to discuss the issue of support for Ukraine's gas sector. The support program would focus on financing gas purchasing, and investment in gas transit infrastructure.
Ukraine is also seeking a syndicated loan of over $4 billion from European banks to pay it gas supply debts to Russian energy giant Gazprom.
now, how do you meet your payments ?
therefore, youshko went tu brussels to beg again !
Ukraine has paid for the September gazz bill and now what are you begging for little PISSY? That is what the banks are for? Pissy didn't you go to the bank to borrow money for your new Manure hut?...Or are you one of corrupt Pootiniski cronies and he is lining up your pocket?
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OK, there is a part of truth in pesky's comments that 'we' create chaos. But the chaos is created basically by anti-Ukrainian advocates in Parliament who act according to principle "the worse for the state the better", certainly not by me. Ukraine has a complex and big issue with that. Also, there are **big** differences between East and Central/Western Ukraine in terms of attitude towards foreign and inner politics (USA, NATO, EU, Russia, language, the past etc.). Basically, the lack of unity doesn't allow us to become a respectable and powerful country. Unfortunately, it's something that cannot be fixed quickly.

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finally, you seem to grasp the basics.
it´s not that i do not wish you ukrainka well, it´s simply almost impossible at this time.
too many outside forces are meddling into your affairs, i feel.
one side, provoking yushko, backed by US criminals, trying to distabilize this region, on the other russian forces that hate to give up, strategical zone of defence.
do you honestly, believe you ukrainkas could be part of Nato ?
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Answering on your question, Yes.
I'm a supporter of the idea too.

About Yushchenko backed by US criminals - it's simply not truth, I get a feeling you regularly watch/read official Russian news and somehow believe in all they say. Yushchenko is just a first President of Ukraine who conduct independent from Kremlin foreign and inner politics. He doesn't teach other countries, and doesn't threaten anybody, he just doesn't act as Kremlin's puppet, the same was in the beginning of 90' in Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia. Kremlin is pissed obviously. I believe we would leave in peace with Russia now, if Putin didn't come to power in 2000, he and his people wrecked our relationships. Also, about "backed up by US criminals", don't Chech and Poland want to house American missiles on their territories? Are their government criminals?
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And it's not just Ukraine that has tensions with Russia. Basically ALL neighbours have them. Now even Belarus. Russia lost almost all former friends because of highly aggressive attitude toward its neighbours and bloated egotism. If it's not a stupid politics i don't know what is.

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sorry to say, but yushko has done more damage to your country than anyone else.
being geographically so close tu russia, whether you like it or not, and being part of the soviet union for decades, you simply can not walk away, close the door, adios amigos, we do not need you anymore, i feel.
as for polaks or czechia, polaks are simply dumb, they too like to play some sort of leading fiddle, but somehow no one takes them seriously, as for czechia, there´s as much political chaos as in your country, ex-commies got together with current commies to seek power at all costs.
perhaps, some sort of federal arrangement might be possible, we too tried that with czechia, but no dice then, so we said, adios czech dumplings and never looked back, happy to be on our own, sooner or later we will run away economically from all these, magayrs, polaks or czechias, once the economies of western europe start to grow..slovakia´s at 12-14 % of growth of GDP.
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We don't 'walk away', we 'walk away' only in imagination of certain 'Kremlin's hawks'. As well as they still think NATO is against them, they WANT it to be too, the opposition to the West became the meaning of their life long ago. It's the main thing that Kremlin uses to unite Russian society and distract it from inner problems. Hate for Americans and everyone else who doesn't agree with Kremlin's POW is *huge*, thanks to regular countrywide PR campaigns (I hope you know that in Russia currently all big mass media are directly controlled by Kremlin).

Anyway, I'm also a supporter of tight cooperation between Ukraine and Russia, it's profitable for both. The problem is the current Russian power doesn't want to cooperate with Russia's former best friends, it wants only to subject.

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pesky the real deal wrote:
all right, now you are talking.
dictatorship is needed in ukrainka, an iron hand to rule over you, otherwise you create chaos only.
have you ever watched your politicians debating, i saw klichko the other day, even he must be tired of their stupidity.
Open debate and free speech are core values of Democracy. Without them you would not be on this Blog giving us your hot air.
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pesky the real deal wrote:
sorry to say, but yushko has done more damage to your country than anyone else.
being geographically so close tu russia, whether you like it or not, and being part of the soviet union for decades, you simply can not walk away, close the door, adios amigos, we do not need you anymore, i feel.
as for polaks or czechia, polaks are simply dumb, they too like to play some sort of leading fiddle, but somehow no one takes them seriously, as for czechia, there´s as much political chaos as in your country, ex-commies got together with current commies to seek power at all costs.
perhaps, some sort of federal arrangement might be possible, we too tried that with czechia, but no dice then, so we said, adios czech dumplings and never looked back, happy to be on our own, sooner or later we will run away economically from all these, magayrs, polaks or czechias, once the economies of western europe start to grow..slovakia´s at 12-14 % of growth of GDP.
Oh little Pissy you like to talk with both sides of your mouth! I understand that the Slovakia had a vote and they decided to split up Czechoslovakia into two countries. Ukraine had a vote and the people decided to they wanted an independent country. So now why are you Pissy imposing your stupidity on the Ukrainain people. the Ukrainain people are not forcing or telling that you the Slowvaks should be part of the Czechoslvakia! Now why are the Slowvaks waiting for the economies of western Europe atart to grow? Can't tghey get anything going on their own???? So Pissy your the FOLLOWER as we all thought your NOT A LEADER IN ANYTHING! Pissy your don't want Ukraine to join the EU because your afraid that your ecomony is going to go down the drain. Tak Pissy you want no proeperity for Ukraine you want Ukraine to be under Pootiniski control and remain poor. Pissy keep jumping in your manure all you like Ukraine will RISE! Just watch!
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