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Karolos Papoulias

Oct 30, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

Macedonian, Greek prime ministers - break the ice' in name dispute talks

Full story: The Sofia Echo

Macedonian prime minister Nikola Gruevski and his Greek counterpart George Papandreou spoke for an hour at a meeting in Brussels on the sidelines of the European Council summit, discussing their bilateral dispute over the use of the name Macedonia is a conversation described as "tough" but an ice-breaker in the long-standing imbroglio.

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DARDAN

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"tough" all right

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Well ice is tough to break, so are the heads of scupis.

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real78 wrote:
Well ice is tough to break, so are the heads of scupis.
Use the heads of the latter to break the former... Scupiheads are about 15 on Mohs scale.

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Oct 31, 2009
 
scupis were looking for geeks to easy off, but found them completely unaware of the old name of mecedonskies.

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Oct 31, 2009
 
pesky the real deal wrote:
scupis were looking for geeks to easy off, but found them completely unaware of the old name of mecedonskies.
Like the found artifacts, with Macnija and macoskis writing?

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Oct 31, 2009
 
there are hardly any artifacts left in your areas, the way i see it, people there live among fossils or rocks that reminds them of ancient times.
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Barbarians!

Macedonia is a HELLENIC Name!
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The two sides have been talking for 18 years, and there have been very few signs of progress in settling the dispute.

The amount of effort put into solving the problem has only given them legitimacy in an argument about using a Greek name, from Greek history, to tie themselves to an old Greek area of the world and to invent the most ridiculous claims about their ancestry.

Why should we continue to talk? In 30 years their little country will be part of Kosovo. Isn't that really a much better solution? We stop talking and end any prospects of them entering the EU, entering NATO, and creating a future.
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YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE TITLE MORONS!

It should be Macedonian AND Greek priministers, as it is look like intentionaly made up to look both "Greek".

CHANGE IT IMBECILES!
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Oct 31, 2009
 
Akritas wrote:
Barbarians!
Macedonia is a HELLENIC Name!
What hellenic bre MONGROL??

ETHIOPIA IS HELLENIC NAME!!
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BOREC wrote:
YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE TITLE MORONS!
It should be Macedonian AND Greek priministers, as it is look like intentionaly made up to look both "Greek".
CHANGE IT IMBECILES!
Good point Borec! You are right that Macedonian means Greek.

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Oct 31, 2009
 
Greece ought to make it clear to everyone that she only participates in those negotiations so that they can go on and an agreement be reached.In fact, all Greece ought to have done long time ago is to remove herself from the negotiations ,submit a formal complaint, to the attention of everyone, that FYROM is playing charade not wanting a solution and trying to usurp the high handily stollen greek symbol/identity because of her irredentist belicose stance towards Greece.
Greece can only say that she objects and that she won't allow that a foreign country/culture/civilisation usurps and uses her symbols and history.
As the FRENCH ARE NOT GERMANS,ENGLISH OR CHINESE SO
THE FYROM MULTI-ETHNIC SOCIETY ARE NOT DESCENDANTS OF THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS.
FYROM are just simply TITO's 'Monkeydonians'.
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BOREC wrote:
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What hellenic bre MONGROL??
ETHIOPIA IS HELLENIC NAME!!
OK, and that would be because the ancient Greeks (including the Macedonians) would have named it that... What is the Monkeyslavian word that your people used in antiquity for Ethiopia, or even Africa? What artifacts was it found on?
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lilalo wrote:
Greece ought to make it clear to everyone that she only participates in those negotiations so that they can go on and an agreement be reached.In fact, all Greece ought to have done long time ago is to remove herself from the negotiations ,submit a formal complaint, to the attention of everyone, that FYROM is playing charade not wanting a solution and trying to usurp the high handily stollen greek symbol/identity because of her irredentist belicose stance towards Greece.
Greece can only say that she objects and that she won't allow that a foreign country/culture/civilisation usurps and uses her symbols and history.
As the FRENCH ARE NOT GERMANS,ENGLISH OR CHINESE SO
THE FYROM MULTI-ETHNIC SOCIETY ARE NOT DESCENDANTS OF THE ANCIENT MACEDONIANS.
FYROM are just simply TITO's 'Monkeydonians'.
Actually Greece is multi-ethnic too ,so the question is when they are going to accept it

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DARDAN wrote:
<quoted text>Actually Greece is multi-ethnic too ,so the question is when they are going to accept it
We haven't establish something like that in researche done in that area.
tough Arnaoutluk!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Greeks do not cluster with either
[neighbours]
Albanians nor Slavs..
http://dienekes.50webs.com/arp/articles/fallm...
only greek tribes in the ancient Haimos Peninsula
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
We are the descendants of the Pelasgians and still the same,we have not been racially altered!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
We are autocthonous speaking the same language for at least the last 7259 thousands of years!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Instructions against mixing with non-greeks in matrimony
Emperor Constantine VII PORFYROGENETOUS
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2009/07/constant...
albanian mythomania
http://history-of-macedonia.com/wordpress/tag...
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lilalo wrote:
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We haven't establish something like that in researche done in that area.
tough Arnaoutluk!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Greeks do not cluster with either
[neighbours]
Albanians nor Slavs..
http://dienekes.50webs.com/arp/articles/fallm...
only greek tribes in the ancient Haimos Peninsula
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
We are the descendants of the Pelasgians and still the same,we have not been racially altered!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
We are autocthonous speaking the same language for at least the last 7259 thousands of years!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Instructions against mixing with non-greeks in matrimony
Emperor Constantine VII PORFYROGENETOUS
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2009/07/constant...
albanian mythomania
http://history-of-macedonia.com/wordpress/tag...
not even near ,litle bit like Armenians ,they are your nearest kin,actualy you are Armenians ,turcs,pordhus,slavs,Epirotes ?you dream about

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DARDAN wrote:
<quoted text>not even near ,litle bit like Armenians ,they are your nearest kin,actualy you are Armenians ,turcs,pordhus,slavs,Epirotes ?you dream about
Hey Albo terrible to be a nobody and to be connected to noone in this life!
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Hey Albo terrible to be a nobody and to be connected to noone in this life!
chil out and meet people ,leave the history to the historians

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Oct 31, 2009
 
GOTO Azerbaijan meet your blood relations the CHECHENS and the GEORGIANS it should be fun if you finished each other off!
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Nov 3, 2009
 
the only ice that was broken was the big block of party ice that was broken on that thick square shaped skull of gruevski
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