Organic dairy farmers vow to compete ...

Organic dairy farmers vow to compete in changing industry

There are 20 comments on the The Tribune story from Thursday Aug 9, titled Organic dairy farmers vow to compete in changing industry. In it, The Tribune reports that:

Small family operated dairy farms with cows freely grazing on verdant pastures are going out business as large confined animal operations with thousands of animals lined up in assembly-line fashion are expanding into the organic market. Many traditional small-scale organic farmers are determined to fight back against the industry transformation by appealing to consumers to look closely at the organic milk they buy to make sure it comes from a farm that meets the idyllic expectations portrayed on the cartons.

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Jan2018

Lincoln, NE

#1 Thursday Aug 9
It is much more healthy to eat grass-fed organic, but more expensive.

“Watching The Snowflakes Rant”

Since: Feb 17

Location hidden

#2 Thursday Aug 9
Jan2018 wrote:
It is much more healthy to eat grass-fed organic, but more expensive.
True, it cost a lot to eat healthy. It is why so many poor are obese.
CZars_R_US

Orlando, FL

#4 Thursday Aug 9
Don't think you eat the cows; just drink the milk.
Cordwainer Trout

Owensboro, KY

#5 Thursday Aug 9
"Organic milk" is a misnomer. It is based in the fearful mentalities of a minor number of people turning concepts of health into a fringe religion. Milk production in the U.S. is one of the most carefully overseen and regulated food processes one can imagine. Those infecting our people with the erroneous assertions of our milk supplies being somehow deficient are too ignorant to educate. Milk cows are not fed hormones, etc. to increase production. All milk is tested from the cows themselves, to the farmer's holding tanks, to the transport vehicles, to the dairy reception tanks and technologies, to the homogenization and pasteurization processes with the strictest oversight and testing. Even the slightest variance from strict rules results in the milk and cream being used as hog feed, etc. Additives, hormones, diseases, excess bacteria, even contamination with too much spring onions, etc. results in rejection. Temperature records are strictly enforced.

"Organic milk" is a scam, just as many of the so-called "organic" produce. The psychologies of these fear mongers is affected by many of the fringe producers drinking urine and eating enough carrots to actually poison their bodies.
Clarification

Peabody, MA

#6 Thursday Aug 9
Jan2018 wrote:
It is much more healthy to eat grass-fed organic, but more expensive.
Tastes better too. It is also not easy to find. Organic is plentiful, but grass fed organic is not.

But one thing that puzzles me, Coconut Milk has been around as long as I can remember.

So if dairy agriculture gets its way, will they make the coconut industry do the same and have to redefine their product?

I sort of get why they donít want other products to call themselves milk, but it seems that most folks can read labels and comprehend where the product came from, correct?

Unfortunately there are lots of folks with a variety of food allergies and they need options. I donít think what name you give it is going to matter that much.
Cordwainer Trout

Owensboro, KY

#7 Thursday Aug 9
Clarification wrote:
Tastes better too. It is also not easy to find. Organic is plentiful, but grass fed organic is not.
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You know NOTHING about milk production. "Organic milk" is a scam. You fringe lunatics promote ignorance as informed. It is this ignorance, which is a threat to everything accomplished in our careful and studied society. Stupid neo-Luddite is a compassionate description of your arrogance.

“4 years of Libs in agony!”

Since: Jan 11

Lake Geneva, WI

#8 Thursday Aug 9
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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You know NOTHING about milk production. "Organic milk" is a scam. You fringe lunatics promote ignorance as informed. It is this ignorance, which is a threat to everything accomplished in our careful and studied society. Stupid neo-Luddite is a compassionate description of your arrogance.
Brilliant!

Organic milk is nothing more than a marketing campaign geared toward ripping off the consumer.

I was raised on a dairy farm. You're absolutely right. If the public knew the level of scrutiny that went in to grade A dairy farms and the milking process they'd be amazed. The inspectors are anal to the max. Hell, they'll even dock you if the whitewash on the walls is dirty.

It is a scam. There's NO WAY to guarantee that everything in that cow's diet is organic. Even in a "grass meadow", there's fertilizer drift, insecticide drift, run off from other fields, etc. To think that the milk you just paid 3X the price for is any "purer" than the stuff you get at the gas station is insane.

A fool and his money is soon parted.
Pull My Finger

Bronx, NY

#9 Friday Aug 10
Blonde: "I'd like to order 15 gallons of milk for my milk bath please."
Milkman: " Do you want that pasteurized?"
Blonde: " No only up to my boobs."
Impeach the Creep

Madison, WI

#10 Friday Aug 10
BHM5267 wrote:
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Brilliant!

Organic milk is nothing more than a marketing campaign geared toward ripping off the consumer.

I was raised on a dairy farm. You're absolutely right. If the public knew the level of scrutiny that went in to grade A dairy farms and the milking process they'd be amazed. The inspectors are anal to the max. Hell, they'll even dock you if the whitewash on the walls is dirty.

It is a scam. There's NO WAY to guarantee that everything in that cow's diet is organic. Even in a "grass meadow", there's fertilizer drift, insecticide drift, run off from other fields, etc. To think that the milk you just paid 3X the price for is any "purer" than the stuff you get at the gas station is insane.

A fool and his money is soon parted.
That weíre drinking gallons of what is literal baby food is absurd in itself, but yes the whole ďorganicĒ marketing scheme is ridiculous.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/or...
PayupSucka

West Columbia, SC

#11 Friday Aug 10
Too expensive and not always available.
Jan2018

Lincoln, NE

#13 Saturday Aug 11
Wow some of you on here are so ignorant concerning organic food. It doesn't contain the hormones or antibiotics. You can instantly taste a difference, especially in meat. Eating healthy keeps you away from doctors.
Socksucks

Manteca, CA

#14 Saturday Aug 11
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
"Organic milk" is a misnomer. It is based in the fearful mentalities of a minor number of people turning concepts of health into a fringe religion. Milk production in the U.S. is one of the most carefully overseen and regulated food processes one can imagine. Those infecting our people with the erroneous assertions of our milk supplies being somehow deficient are too ignorant to educate. Milk cows are not fed hormones, etc. to increase production. All milk is tested from the cows themselves, to the farmer's holding tanks, to the transport vehicles, to the dairy reception tanks and technologies, to the homogenization and pasteurization processes with the strictest oversight and testing. Even the slightest variance from strict rules results in the milk and cream being used as hog feed, etc. Additives, hormones, diseases, excess bacteria, even contamination with too much spring onions, etc. results in rejection. Temperature records are strictly enforced.

"Organic milk" is a scam, just as many of the so-called "organic" produce. The psychologies of these fear mongers is affected by many of the fringe producers drinking urine and eating enough carrots to actually poison their bodies.
No adult needs any milk
Socksucks

Manteca, CA

#15 Saturday Aug 11
Jan2018 wrote:
Wow some of you on here are so ignorant concerning organic food. It doesn't contain the hormones or antibiotics. You can instantly taste a difference, especially in meat. Eating healthy keeps you away from doctors.
Well said but Monsanto experts donít agree
Milky

Manteca, CA

#16 Saturday Aug 11
BHM5267 wrote:
<quoted text>

Brilliant!

Organic milk is nothing more than a marketing campaign geared toward ripping off the consumer.

I was raised on a dairy farm. You're absolutely right. If the public knew the level of scrutiny that went in to grade A dairy farms and the milking process they'd be amazed. The inspectors are anal to the max. Hell, they'll even dock you if the whitewash on the walls is dirty.

It is a scam. There's NO WAY to guarantee that everything in that cow's diet is organic. Even in a "grass meadow", there's fertilizer drift, insecticide drift, run off from other fields, etc. To think that the milk you just paid 3X the price for is any "purer" than the stuff you get at the gas station is insane.

A fool and his money is soon parted.
Milk is a scam, not good for anyone
Just Noticed

Peabody, MA

#17 Sunday Aug 12
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>

You know NOTHING about milk production. "Organic milk" is a scam. You fringe lunatics promote ignorance as informed. It is this ignorance, which is a threat to everything accomplished in our careful and studied society. Stupid neo-Luddite is a compassionate description of your arrogance.
It is a scientific fact that grass fed dairy has an increased ratio of Omega 3 fatty acids. Our modern diet has too much Omega 6 which can cause inflammation.

Folks who need a ketogenic diet to cope with some forms of cancer or epilepsy would benefit greatly from making sure that the dairy fat they include would be grass fed.

So it isnít arrogance, it is just science, which has no political agenda.

And applying that science to help those who are sick, thatís compassion.
Just Noticed

Peabody, MA

#18 Sunday Aug 12
Milky wrote:
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Milk is a scam, not good for anyone
Not necessarily.

Some folks really cannot costume dairy and thank goodness there are good alternatives.

Some folks get very sick from the alternatives and can benefit from organic grass fed.

Some should refrain from both dairy and the alternatives.

It all depends on the individualís ability to digest and assimilate certain nutrients.

There is a lot about nutrition we still do not fully understand.

The only people who do are those who have lived for a hundred generations in a particular area and have consumed a natural native diet for the area eating only things that are in season.

That isnít realistic for the majority of us who have moved around the globe during the last three to five generations.
Impeach the Creep

Madison, WI

#19 Sunday Aug 12
Jan2018 wrote:
Wow some of you on here are so ignorant concerning organic food. It doesn't contain the hormones or antibiotics. You can instantly taste a difference, especially in meat. Eating healthy keeps you away from doctors.
The taste difference is grass fed vs corn fed, and most grass fed is still corn finished, unless you happen to actually have a buddy who raises cows.

I get 100% grass fed from my buddy in CO, I love it while the GF calls it ĎGamey AFí

You canít guarantee the grass or corn is organic either, unless itís raised in a completely isolated environment, e.g 8000í in the CO high country.
jtkluempers

Los Angeles, CA

#20 Sunday Aug 12
Just Noticed wrote:
<quoted text>

It is a scientific fact that grass fed dairy has an increased ratio of Omega 3 fatty acids. Our modern diet has too much Omega 6 which can cause inflammation.

Folks who need a ketogenic diet to cope with some forms of cancer or epilepsy would benefit greatly from making sure that the dairy fat they include would be grass fed.

So it isnít arrogance, it is just science, which has no political agenda.

And applying that science to help those who are sick, thatís compassion.
Science ALWAYS has a political agenda. Technology takes incredible leaps during war, and war is ALWAYS political.

Climate change is happening, and has always been political.
Utopia

Peabody, MA

#21 Sunday Aug 12
jtkluempers wrote:
<quoted text>

Science ALWAYS has a political agenda. Technology takes incredible leaps during war, and war is ALWAYS political.

Climate change is happening, and has always been political.
Humans have the choice to use scientific discoveries for the greater good.

If we vote for those who will protect the greater good, maybe war, religion and politics will be a thing of the past.

“4 years of Libs in agony!”

Since: Jan 11

Lake Geneva, WI

#22 Monday Aug 13
Jan2018 wrote:
Wow some of you on here are so ignorant concerning organic food. It doesn't contain the hormones or antibiotics. You can instantly taste a difference, especially in meat. Eating healthy keeps you away from doctors.
The "taste" has NOTHING to do with whether it's "organic" or not, it has to do with the diet of the animal.

Unless the animal and it's food sources are raised in a bubble, there's no way to guarantee it's "organic".

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