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Jul 20, 2008

Cambodia complains to UN

Embassy staff flown to temple site, more Thai troops sent to border, Security Council told of Thai 'interference' By Wassana Nanuam and Agence France-Presse The Cambodian government has launched a diplomatic ...

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Jul 20, 2008
 
It's very bad I have a proof since 1962 and also Vietnam toke parts my border Please help us, We are poor country before we are great and big country,
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Jul 21, 2008
 
I want to call on to Unesco and UN and foreing country, please take action and help cambodia the sooner the better...
Thank you very much...
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#3
Jul 23, 2008
 
It's not good for thai that want what is not own and make the coflict It's affect to both countries so please the thai government take action as soon as possible. please understand.
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Jul 23, 2008
 
As khmer doesn't have Conflict between THAI and CAMBODIA coz the result will be bad all both. only want the International institute know and solve the disupte. coz the solution can not achieve between thai and cambodia so my sugestion is regeust to UN try to find reallity to finish the dispute. I hope that u will try ur best for this problem. thank
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Jul 26, 2008
 
The sovereignty of land is not for ever. Wars and politics will change the ownership and in the history of the Khmers they lost and won and lost a few times. The Laos won and lost and so did the Thai as did the Vietnamese.
In history of prior times many of these countries weren't known. The countries didn't exist just people living their lives. They slowly organised themselves and built their cultures. They called the land they lived on their own and gave it a name. Leaders emerged and these leaders' lands were often fought over and some were lost to be renamed.
In recent times when disputes over land rulings emerged we are able to ask for rulings. This happened with the land around Preah Vihear. The international Court ruled that it was to be controlled by Cambodia. Thailand accepted this ruling but not all were happy with it. Silly arguments emerged on how it was a political decision. Of course it is political. That's how countries are defined! Social and political forces at work.
The arguments will never finish and that's OK. As long as nations and her citizens accept the rulings and go through the peaceful although passionate arguments there won't be bloodshed over these issues. If things get too heated then it is reasonable to ask peacemakers to help sought the problems out and prevent a war.
Let us all be reasonable on this. I don't want to see another Khmer killed in war and I don't want to see another generation of Thais hating their neighbour because of a futile war. Lets find an answer and accept some guidance.
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Jul 26, 2008
 
Why can't Cambodia just solve their own problem, and not bug anyone.

Cambodia begs the world for money, and now begs the world to help. If Darwinism is in practice, Cambodia as a nation will cease to exist.
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Jul 28, 2008
 
Cambodia is developing Country and have just recovered from war. But now cambodia is independend and peaceful country although our country is not so well and still need help from other countries to settle the problem such as boder disputes.I think that is because we respect the international court and would like the world know about cambodia.
One more we don't want to see our country is invaded or see our neighbour country prepare to attack us.
As I am a khmer I want to live in the world with peace and smile all the time.
Why does thailand just want it now ? Why not after International court Judged in 1962?
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Aug 6, 2008
 
farangbarang wrote:
The sovereignty of land is not for ever. Wars and politics will change the ownership and in the history of the Khmers they lost and won and lost a few times. The Laos won and lost and so did the Thai as did the Vietnamese.
In history of prior times many of these countries weren't known. The countries didn't exist just people living their lives. They slowly organised themselves and built their cultures. They called the land they lived on their own and gave it a name. Leaders emerged and these leaders' lands were often fought over and some were lost to be renamed.
In recent times when disputes over land rulings emerged we are able to ask for rulings. This happened with the land around Preah Vihear. The international Court ruled that it was to be controlled by Cambodia. Thailand accepted this ruling but not all were happy with it. Silly arguments emerged on how it was a political decision. Of course it is political. That's how countries are defined! Social and political forces at work.
The arguments will never finish and that's OK. As long as nations and her citizens accept the rulings and go through the peaceful although passionate arguments there won't be bloodshed over these issues. If things get too heated then it is reasonable to ask peacemakers to help sought the problems out and prevent a war.
Let us all be reasonable on this. I don't want to see another Khmer killed in war and I don't want to see another generation of Thais hating their neighbour because of a futile war. Lets find an answer and accept some guidance.
Good job! Professor....Are you a poli. science Pro.?
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Aug 6, 2008
 
KFC wrote:
Why can't Cambodia just solve their own problem, and not bug anyone.
Cambodia begs the world for money, and now begs the world to help. If Darwinism is in practice, Cambodia as a nation will cease to exist.
KFC...,

Do you want to fry them like a KFC chikcen. I will stop by to say hello to you, and perhaps order a few Cambodian fry...IS YOUR NAME Mater too?
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SamRieth wrote:
It's very bad I have a proof since 1962 and also Vietnam toke parts my border Please help us, We are poor country before we are great and big country,
Thanks
Hi SamRieth,

You and others from Phnom Penh, Cambodia are pathetic. All of you cannot talk....nontheless express your/themselves in a precised form...that a child can understan.

You said, you have what since 1962....? and the Vietnamese took what....? Your border...?

You should express yourself like so: if you beg the International Community to give their supports to Cambodia.

In 1962, the International Court of Justice ruled in favor of Cambodia over Preah Vihear...then what...?

The Vietnamese troops invaded Cambodia in the past and present...., and at the same time, they took 12 Provinces and more from Cambodia...then what...?

Cambodia is dirt poor because of her people and un-uprighted leadership. The international donors give financial supports to Cambodia all these years. What has happened to those money. They are in Hun Sen and his gangs pockets. What have Cambodian done to vitalize their country? NOTHING....? Execept begging for more from the International donor....how pathetic...! The Cambodian people NEVER fought for their rights, dignity, and integrity...They keep electing Hun Sen to run the Cambodia down the Vietnamese septic tank. When the Vietnamese and Thai say, "JUMP", the Cambodian would say "how high......?" When the Vietnamese and Thai say, you Cambodian....kill each other...the Cambodian will do just that...in a heart beat to entertain the Viet and Thai.

Cambodia is facing this predicament today....is because of the Cambodian Kings and unskilled leaders from one generation to the next....they have constructed a screw up society. Today, Hun Sen is breeding mafia, and war in Cambodian society. So, the Cambodian can kill each other for the Viet and Thai....In the early 80s, the Thai soldier raped 10 years old Cambodian girls in the Refugee Camp in Thailand, a group of Cambodian men stood there and watched.....!

Cambodian people have no solidarity nor do they have shared aims for the common goods. The Cambodian people are egoistic....! that is why, Cambodia is dirt poor, and her people are so inferior to neighboring countries. WHO IS AT FAULT?

My advice(s) to you, SamRieth, and others in this forum from Cambodia.....IS THAT if you CANNOT express yourself/themselves in such a way that people can understan you, PLEASE DON'T EXPRESS ANYTHING...! YOU ONLY MAKE YOURSELF LOOK STUPID, AND FURTHERMORE, YOU AND OTHERS MAKE CAMBODIAN PEOPLE EVEN MORE INFERIOR....KEEP IN MIND THAT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD GET ON THIS FORUM, AND EXPRESS THIER OPINION....!
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Aug 6, 2008
 
AHunandHalf wrote:
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Hi SamRieth,
You and others from Phnom Penh, Cambodia are pathetic. All of you cannot talk....nontheless express your/themselves in a precised form...that a child can understan.
You said, you have what since 1962....? and the Vietnamese took what....? Your border...?
You should express yourself like so: if you beg the International Community to give their supports to Cambodia.
In 1962, the International Court of Justice ruled in favor of Cambodia over Preah Vihear...then what...?
The Vietnamese troops invaded Cambodia in the past and present...., and at the same time, they took 12 Provinces and more from Cambodia...then what...?
Cambodia is dirt poor because of her people and un-uprighted leadership. The international donors give financial supports to Cambodia all these years. What has happened to those money. They are in Hun Sen and his gangs pockets. What have Cambodian done to vitalize their country? NOTHING....? Execept begging for more from the International donor....how pathetic...! The Cambodian people NEVER fought for their rights, dignity, and integrity...They keep electing Hun Sen to run the Cambodia down the Vietnamese septic tank. When the Vietnamese and Thai say, "JUMP", the Cambodian would say "how high......?" When the Vietnamese and Thai say, you Cambodian....kill each other...the Cambodian will do just that...in a heart beat to entertain the Viet and Thai.
Cambodia is facing this predicament today....is because of the Cambodian Kings and unskilled leaders from one generation to the next....they have constructed a screw up society. Today, Hun Sen is breeding mafia, and war in Cambodian society. So, the Cambodian can kill each other for the Viet and Thai....In the early 80s, the Thai soldier raped 10 years old Cambodian girls in the Refugee Camp in Thailand, a group of Cambodian men stood there and watched.....!
Cambodian people have no solidarity nor do they have shared aims for the common goods. The Cambodian people are egoistic....! that is why, Cambodia is dirt poor, and her people are so inferior to neighboring countries. WHO IS AT FAULT?
My advice(s) to you, SamRieth, and others in this forum from Cambodia.....IS THAT if you CANNOT express yourself/themselves in such a way that people can understan you, PLEASE DON'T EXPRESS ANYTHING...! YOU ONLY MAKE YOURSELF LOOK STUPID, AND FURTHERMORE, YOU AND OTHERS MAKE CAMBODIAN PEOPLE EVEN MORE INFERIOR....KEEP IN MIND THAT PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD GET ON THIS FORUM, AND EXPRESS THIER OPINION....!
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Aug 6, 2008
 
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Very well said,
Hi Komboja,

Thanks for the complements...!
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#13
Aug 6, 2008
 
I am khmer and it breaks my heart when innocent people suffer because of the government, and the people can't do anything about it. When will that devil of a man fall and let someone else trustworthy replace him.
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#14
Aug 6, 2008
 
Hello all the God and all the Evil! >>Include in the past and the present compare khmer and Siam, Who is should be gone to the hell? Who is should be gone to the paradise.
Please judge with your trust,Do not forget if do wrong judgement you also go to the hell.
Swear to the god!
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#15
Aug 7, 2008
 
Im Cambodian and proud to be.
Bcoz my country has her own TRADITION & CULTUR not like someone who has stealed ours.

We still keep quiet coz of our neighbor but u all see how they act!!! They still bark and turn to bite their MASTER back.

All siams dun pretend to be silly u should hv read ur real history b4 u BARK, OK.

Sorry to say some bad words in this text, It will hv more and more if ur low brain siams still... "REMEMBER PPL WILL RESPECT U WHEN U RESPECT THEM".

ABT THE SUBJECT, We just show how the situation is and we do not need any assist fm UN if siams' gov't know how to read and follow the rule of ICJ 1962.
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Aug 7, 2008
 
So AHunandHalf, just because you live here in the US, with funded education, you think you can look down on other ppl learning english by themselves. think before you make a judgement idoit. you know nothing about how human behavior works. I assume you would grab those soldier with the energy (that you gotten from the refugee camp rations) and slaughter them, hoping the other hundreds of thai soldiers just a a few yards away with ak47 wouldn't notice or just miss when they spray shots right? why didnt the ppl revolted in nazi camps or any oppessed situations, cause they can't.
read some psychology books, or take some classess. Im sure you'll better your numb noobed mind with assumptions that logically dont make sense. Cambodia is just as corrupted as many other countries. there's an international index for that, google it. Cambodia isnt even near the top.
How do you assume poor ppl suppose to get out of proverty without direct supervised support? plant food? fish? only in a utopia without other maniacs trying to make life worst for others. the ppl there are trying the best they can with what they got, and thats one thing you dont and will never fully understand. War isn't new to khmer ppl. if they wanted to fight, they surely can, anybody can, even your mentally retarded self. The UN and other administrations are there for a purpose.
oh yeah, do you notice that f castro never got assinated, why is that? things dont work as easy as you typing with lame excuses and reasons.
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Aug 7, 2008
 
pretty messup situations. i'm khmer, and i like the thai girls as much as khmer girls.

if they been wanting it so bad, just give it to them as a "gift", to show apperciation for being a nice neighbor. dont cambodia still have a dozen more? one temple is not worth the bloodshed and more years or bitterness. take the dammed thing (from the start), and let it equal a peace.
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Aug 7, 2008
 

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pretty messup situations. i'm khmer, and i like the thai girls as much as khmer girls.
if they been wanting it so bad, just give it to them as a "gift", to show apperciation for being a nice neighbor. dont cambodia still have a dozen more? one temple is not worth the bloodshed and more years or bitterness. take the dammed thing (from the start), and let it equal a peace.
LOL, you're funny--and kind too.
If we let that happened, the AngKor Wat Temple would have been long gone in one gulp to Thailand already. And if we give this Temple to the Thais, are you that niave to think that they'll stop at this time and point? I say not.
Greeds never end, buddy. You give a tiger one piece of meat, he'll want 10 more!! Give a child an inch he'll want a mile just to test you limit.
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Aug 7, 2008
 
maybe they just need to write up a new policy. this problem existed for a long, long time. if handing over one temple would cease the bitterness and a new modern agreement written-up, i think both side will be more obliged to compile.
the problem is, that the old agreement is dated back so far, in 62 right?, well, after then we have the vietnam war, spread of communist influences, etc. there was a lot of major changes.

the u.s. had policy also, during its early ages, and most ignored for the better of the ppl. but one thing that solve tensions is a compromise. if no one took the first step toward one, the southern part of the u.s. would been underdeveloped for a lot longer time.

a tiger needs meat to survive. and a kid is human, with the inate ability to be curious. those are natural factors. but i totally understand your point, i just dont agree with war over a scared place. that's not true purpose of it.
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Aug 7, 2008
 
omega wrote:
maybe they just need to write up a new policy. this problem existed for a long, long time. if handing over one temple would cease the bitterness and a new modern agreement written-up, i think both side will be more obliged to compile.
the problem is, that the old agreement is dated back so far, in 62 right?, well, after then we have the vietnam war, spread of communist influences, etc. there was a lot of major changes.
the u.s. had policy also, during its early ages, and most ignored for the better of the ppl. but one thing that solve tensions is a compromise. if no one took the first step toward one, the southern part of the u.s. would been underdeveloped for a lot longer time.
a tiger needs meat to survive. and a kid is human, with the inate ability to be curious. those are natural factors. but i totally understand your point, i just dont agree with war over a scared place. that's not true purpose of it.
Look what compromising takes Thais and Cambodians to. Overall, even politics act childish and they're adults, too. US is the powerful one with rules and order, but they bash each other just to gain reputations...so on and so forth.
Do enlighten me with your way of solving the human race reaction to one another when one is not being "fair" to the other.
Yes, tiger needs meat to survive but with limited amount of meat so that it won't be too greedy and ended up eating its own mater. A child is curious but there's certain bar to raise so that he cannot overstep you as a parent....I think you get my drift?:D
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