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Oct 13, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

Pro-coal crowds pack mountaintop mining hearings in Ky., W.Va., heckle environmentalists

Full story: WNOL-TV New Orleans

Thousands of coal miners fearing the loss of jobs if mountaintop removal mining is curtailed or outlawed shouted down a handful of environmentalists at crowded public hearings Tuesday on the much-debated practice.

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How can a news center in New Orleans know what heckling is in Appalachia? I find there were strong opinions but to charge those whose very jobs are at stake with heckling is rediculous. What if they were to say you folks had to move out of the natural swamps and water lowlands in Louisiana there news crew would you not be upset as well? I believe your story headline should read thousands of miners finally have a hearing point for their side of the story. Or civil disobedience has led the environmentalist to see mining is supported in Appalachia. Or take a mans job and risk our nations prosperity.
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Mountaintop removal lets them get out of paying more people to mine the regular way from my understanding, I would think these guys would prefer to have more jobs mining. I get sick when I see a "reclaimed" mountain. My dad was a coal miner and I talked to him about it, he said it's the greedy coal companies screwing people. I don't think it's a coincidence that they had that big "friends of coal" rally on the same day as the UMWA thing. Seems like friends of coal = enemies of miners. That's just how I viewed it. Of course they would prefer to be cheap and pay less people by destroying the mountains, that doesn't mean they should get to do whatever they want.
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Why would anyone want to defend the destruction of our beautiful landscape?
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When out of state protesters trespass and chain their self to equipment,they call themselves patriots.When coal miners speak up in a public forum,
they are called thugs and hecklers.Whats wrong with
this picture?
Coal Supporter

Saint Albans, WV

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The key word is "they". "They", the so-called environmentalists, call themselves whatever "they" feel deemed appropriate.

"They" are in NO means "patriots". "They" are outlaw terrorists who continue breaking the law and putting lives in danger with their disregard for safety.

"They" are nothing more than "thugs" and "hecklers" - staging their sit-ins and lock-downs, trespassing on privately owned land, screaming and chatting outside/inside state buildings, littering... Truly disgusting!

Keep standing tall, miners! You have many supporters!
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Wharton, WV

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hey there guys
i suprissed at the stupidity i found on this page........
wow okay..
the reason that they are Hecklers and thugs is because they are!! omfg?? seriously,, i have watched this with my own two eyes i was at that meeting and i i have to say is if you was there you would have seen what they were doing, they were harrasing the "enviromentalsts" ( which are actually just people that want to live in their homeland"
when Maria Gunnoe stood up to give here opinon, the DID harras her, one miner even had the gall to assult her physically, and you call them miners??? i call them equipment operatrers.......HA
the reason they chain themselves to equipment is to stop the destruction of our homeland!!!
the west virgina mountains are the second most biodiverse land in the world!! pklease open up your eyes and realize that these people are dieing to live were the were born and bred, all they want is clean water, clean air, and to live i peace, and excuse me for wanting that.....
i love west virgina mountains :)
there my home, and i will do anything nessecary to keep it that way.
bulldog

Welch, WV

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Anonymous wrote:
hey there guys
i suprissed at the stupidity i found on this page........
wow okay..
the reason that they are Hecklers and thugs is because they are!! omfg?? seriously,, i have watched this with my own two eyes i was at that meeting and i i have to say is if you was there you would have seen what they were doing, they were harrasing the "enviromentalsts" ( which are actually just people that want to live in their homeland"
when Maria Gunnoe stood up to give here opinon, the DID harras her, one miner even had the gall to assult her physically, and you call them miners??? i call them equipment operatrers.......HA
the reason they chain themselves to equipment is to stop the destruction of our homeland!!!
the west virgina mountains are the second most biodiverse land in the world!! pklease open up your eyes and realize that these people are dieing to live were the were born and bred, all they want is clean water, clean air, and to live i peace, and excuse me for wanting that.....
i love west virgina mountains :)
there my home, and i will do anything nessecary to keep it that way.
No I wasn't there,I had to work.But I was invited.I guess when you
talk about "equipment operators" you're talking about me.No,I don't
work for Massey,not affiliated in any way.I am a southern WV.UMWA
surface miner.I understand the UMWA was represented well by Mr.Grant Crandall.Yes I am a resident of WV.I am classified a coal
miner by the state and the federal government.Other miners and me
make a living abiding by the laws put before us.We have to take tests and receive training to be classified as a miner here.I doubt
that you could even begin to do our job safely.One other thing deep
miners are equipment operators too.The days of pick and shovel are long gone.So I guess you are just another ignorant tree hugger that
has no idea what you're talking about!
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Coal Supporter wrote:
The key word is "they". "They", the so-called environmentalists, call themselves whatever "they" feel deemed appropriate.
"They" are in NO means "patriots". "They" are outlaw terrorists who continue breaking the law and putting lives in danger with their disregard for safety.
"They" are nothing more than "thugs" and "hecklers" - staging their sit-ins and lock-downs, trespassing on privately owned land, screaming and chatting outside/inside state buildings, littering... Truly disgusting!
Keep standing tall, miners! You have many supporters!
How did they put anyone's lives in danger? How are they terrorists? I don't know much about the whole story, but it sounds like it was just a protest. If the protesters were from Greenpeace, then yeah, I could see how they might be terrorists. Greenpeace has a terrible track record.

And littering? Really? Seems kind of counterproductive for an environmentalist.
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Anonymous wrote:
hey there guys
i suprissed at the stupidity i found on this page........
wow okay..
the reason that they are Hecklers and thugs is because they are!! omfg?? seriously,, i have watched this with my own two eyes i was at that meeting and i i have to say is if you was there you would have seen what they were doing, they were harrasing the "enviromentalsts" ( which are actually just people that want to live in their homeland"
when Maria Gunnoe stood up to give here opinon, the DID harras her, one miner even had the gall to assult her physically, and you call them miners??? i call them equipment operatrers.......HA
the reason they chain themselves to equipment is to stop the destruction of our homeland!!!
the west virgina mountains are the second most biodiverse land in the world!! pklease open up your eyes and realize that these people are dieing to live were the were born and bred, all they want is clean water, clean air, and to live i peace, and excuse me for wanting that.....
i love west virgina mountains :)
there my home, and i will do anything nessecary to keep it that way.
check yourself for ignorance read your post

Mike Rosell or his geezer vet are not West Virginians - they are PAID out of state riot starters who endanger peoples lives. While I believe there are better ways to extract minerals these companies are abiding by the laws of the land unlike the extremist who tresspass and endanger men and womens lives going onto private property. These miners pay income taxes and property taxes in West Virginia unlike your facists friends who organize and take advantage of the communities around them.
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Thinker wrote:
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How did they put anyone's lives in danger? How are they terrorists? I don't know much about the whole story, but it sounds like it was just a protest. If the protesters were from Greenpeace, then yeah, I could see how they might be terrorists. Greenpeace has a terrible track record.
And littering? Really? Seems kind of counterproductive for an environmentalist.
I think you do know.

And, yes, littering! They have been previously charged with so.

"Counterproductive"? How about self-proclaimed environmentalists who are still on the grid! Hmmm......
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Anonymous wrote:
hey there guys
i suprissed at the stupidity i found on this page........
wow okay..
the reason that they are Hecklers and thugs is because they are!! omfg?? seriously,, i have watched this with my own two eyes i was at that meeting and i i have to say is if you was there you would have seen what they were doing, they were harrasing the "enviromentalsts" ( which are actually just people that want to live in their homeland"
when Maria Gunnoe stood up to give here opinon, the DID harras her, one miner even had the gall to assult her physically, and you call them miners??? i call them equipment operatrers.......HA
the reason they chain themselves to equipment is to stop the destruction of our homeland!!!
the west virgina mountains are the second most biodiverse land in the world!! pklease open up your eyes and realize that these people are dieing to live were the were born and bred, all they want is clean water, clean air, and to live i peace, and excuse me for wanting that.....
i love west virgina mountains :)
there my home, and i will do anything nessecary to keep it that way.
This comment is not even worth a reply, it's just laughable! lol, lol
Thinker

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Coal Supporter wrote:
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I think you do know.
And, yes, littering! They have been previously charged with so.
"Counterproductive"? How about self-proclaimed environmentalists who are still on the grid! Hmmm......
If I knew, I wouldn't have asked. And as far as being "on the grid," it's very difficult to just completely convert everything to solar, wind, etc. The initial investment is pretty expensive.

Personally, I'd love to see more nuclear power plants. 20 years ago, it was very dangerous. But with today's technology, I believe it to be the cheapest, safest form of energy (on a massive scale anyway) available.
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Thinker wrote:
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If I knew, I wouldn't have asked. And as far as being "on the grid," it's very difficult to just completely convert everything to solar, wind, etc. The initial investment is pretty expensive.
Personally, I'd love to see more nuclear power plants. 20 years ago, it was very dangerous. But with today's technology, I believe it to be the cheapest, safest form of energy (on a massive scale anyway) available.
Question,what are you going to do with the radioactive waste?
Thinker

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Nuclear transmutation
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Visit

www.supportwvcoal.com to help Senator Mike Green preserve jobs...thanks
Thinker

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So, I don't really know a lot about the coal industry. What is the advantage of strip mining vs deep mining?
informed citizen

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Thinker wrote:
So, I don't really know a lot about the coal industry. What is the advantage of strip mining vs deep mining?
Google is your friend, but the main advantage is that surface mining can extract mineral that cannot be mined by the underground method.
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