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May 10, 2008

We're All Gun Nuts Now: The Democrats sidle up to the Second Amendment.

“I think a total ban, with no exceptions under any circumstances, might be found by the Court not to be. But I don't know the facts”

During a campaign debate on April 16, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were asked if the District of Columbia's ban on gun possession, now facing a challenge before the Supreme Court, is constitutional. via Free Republic

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Basically, what this article points out is the obvious and well known notion that politicians will sidestep the issues while they are campaigning, then turn the tables once they are elected.

But I think their tactics are even more devious than that. Now that they know that an outright ban on firearms will not be supported, even by some of their own people (other politicians), they will resort instead to pushing forward with "reasonable" controls and "common sense" gun laws.

As an example, they will push forward with mandates for expensive training, ammunition stamping, ballistic fingerprinting and the like. Their outward message is:

"These are 'common sense' and 'reasonable' controls that will protect you and keep you safe."

The underlying, and actual theme of these controls are that they want to make firearm ownership and use so exorbitantly expensive that people will either lose interest altogether, or simply not be able to afford to maintain what they have (I have a gun but now can't afford bullets).

In my opinion, what this does is takes away firearm ownership from the lower income populations - the folks who probably need self defense measures the most. These people are easy to target because these same politicians come off with government benefits and programs to help them live. These poor folks then have no other choice but to vote for these people because these are the politicians who give them the greatest chance of economic survival.

Sneaky tactics and lying to the public are the tools of the politician to make people afraid of guns and to fool them into believing that more gun laws will keep them safe.

It is obvious who is going to probably end up with the Democratic nomination. In my opinion, Barrack Obama is one such politician who favors and employs these types of sneaky tactics to put gun ownership out of the reach of most Americans, while making the statement (I support your 2nd amendment right to bear arms." He can say that all day long, while pushing and backing laws that will make our rights essentially worthless.
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Right on! "Common sense" is any every other phrase out of Obama's mouth...Just look at gun laws in Chicago and Illinois as a harbinger of 'common sense" Obama-speak.
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Who better to rule the jungle?

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"Be not intimidated...nor suffer yourselves to be wheedled out of your liberties by any pretense of politeness, delicacy, or decency. These, as they are often used, are but three different names for hypocrisy, chicanery and cowardice."

-- John Adams,(1735-1826) 2nd US President [1765]
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May 15, 2008
 
Every time I hear the phrase "I believe in the Second Amendment but..." I get that same sick feeling in the pit of my stomach that I get whan someone says "I'm not a racist but...."
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We wont give up our guns say no to Obama.
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May 17, 2008
 
I knew a guy who wouldn't give up his beer either.

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May 17, 2008
 
Stumpy wrote:
I knew a guy who wouldn't give up his beer either.
So enlighten us: Was there some relevance to that statement? Is there a point of debate you can share with us?
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I have a feeling that Obama wants us to give up our weapons so his Islamic Arabic friends can take over easier. Also, if citizens are not armed his gangsta buddies can rob and pillage white people easier. After all most black people are jealous of white people because they think we get away with committing crimes. I guess they want to commit crimes and get away with it.
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BrainwashedZombie wrote:
I have a feeling that Obama wants us to give up our weapons so his Islamic Arabic friends can take over easier. Also, if citizens are not armed his gangsta buddies can rob and pillage white people easier. After all most black people are jealous of white people because they think we get away with committing crimes. I guess they want to commit crimes and get away with it.
White people just want guns to kill blacks with anyway and when Obama gets in I hope he takes them all away from you redneck crackers.
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timeisnow wrote:
<quoted text>Now bear with me as I am an asshole racist but it is my stunted opinion that White people just want guns to kill blacks. Now I can't prove that.
As always.
Now, care to research the "Black on White" vs. "White on Black" crime to see how full of crap you are?? I didn't think so.
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... and when Obama gets in I hope he takes them all away from you redneck crackers.
Going to love to see him and you come get them.

So how long have you been a tool for jackbooted thugs??
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Obama is a sneaky lying varmint.The NRA has his number,and he is in their sights.He will grovel to their front door and beg for their support,like the political whore he is..Guess what?

These elitists,want to take away Smokes,beer,
Horse races ,and any thing else you need a pair of to do.

The ones who are killing blacks,you effeminate eggheads,are other blacks.This with bats,knifes,fire,rocks,and yes stolen handguns.Check your local slammer population.

Your source for your crack,"timeisnow",co mes from an automatic rifle toting drug dealer. The scum you do business with.

This is a "dead horse" subject,and it stinks .loony wink nuts,like to beat their gums,instead of what ever else they beat to occupy their half brain concepts of whats good for the masses.

Get lost Obama freaks!!
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BEAN wrote:
Obama is a sneaky lying varmint.The NRA has his number,and he is in their sights.He will grovel to their front door and beg for their support,like the political whore he is..Guess what?
These elitists,want to take away Smokes,beer,
Horse races ,and any thing else you need a pair of to do.
The ones who are killing blacks,you effeminate eggheads,are other blacks.This with bats,knifes,fire,rocks,and yes stolen handguns.Check your local slammer population.
Your source for your crack,"timeisnow",co mes from an automatic rifle toting drug dealer. The scum you do business with.
This is a "dead horse" subject,and it stinks .loony wink nuts,like to beat their gums,instead of what ever else they beat to occupy their half brain concepts of whats good for the masses.
Get lost Obama freaks!!
The NRA is a skin headed KKK thingy you crackers cling to.
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Monty wrote:
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As always.
Now, care to research the "Black on White" vs. "White on Black" crime to see how full of crap you are?? I didn't think so.
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Going to love to see him and you come get them.
So how long have you been a tool for jackbooted thugs??
YES WE VERY MUCH HOPE YOU WONT GIVE THEM UP! It will be craker crushing time make our day.
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timeisnow wrote:
<quoted text>YES WE VERY MUCH HOPE YOU WONT GIVE THEM UP! It will be craker crushing time make our day.
BWAHAHAHAHA!!! You'll be the first one I pick off, runt.
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Let the Republicans keep their guns, to shoot themselves in the foot come November!
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Just An Observer wrote:
Let the Republicans keep their guns, to shoot themselves in the foot come November!
The Dems aren't waiting til then...they're doing it now!
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It's the guns - because guns jump up off the table and attack people in their sleep.
It's the guns, because baseball bats held by abusive ex boyfriends are not intimidated by a firearm - firearms are only bad - bad because only bad people use them, except for the police, or the military, or someone protecting their home, or someone defending themselves from an abuser, or.. hmmm.. please ignore the earlier
argument, which makes absolutely no sense.
Firearms have a legitimate use, and gun laws which restrict the ability of people to access or use them only apply to those who obey the law and therefore, never apply to criminals, who are the
people who cause problems in the first place.
Therefore, it should be obvious to ANYONE who has more than 2 brain cells, that gun laws are a great idea - it just happens to be in the case of the real world, where they are meant to apply, that they fail MISERABLY, as they have the opposite effect of what is intended.
That is, gun laws CAUSE CRIME rather than preventing it.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Barack Obama - BO Stinks
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Clintoris wrote:
It's the guns - because guns jump up off the table and attack people in their sleep.
It's the guns, because baseball bats held by abusive ex boyfriends are not intimidated by a firearm - firearms are only bad - bad because only bad people use them, except for the police, or the military, or someone protecting their home, or someone defending themselves from an abuser, or.. hmmm.. please ignore the earlier
argument, which makes absolutely no sense.
Firearms have a legitimate use, and gun laws which restrict the ability of people to access or use them only apply to those who obey the law and therefore, never apply to criminals, who are the
people who cause problems in the first place.
Therefore, it should be obvious to ANYONE who has more than 2 brain cells, that gun laws are a great idea - it just happens to be in the case of the real world, where they are meant to apply, that they fail MISERABLY, as they have the opposite effect of what is intended.
That is, gun laws CAUSE CRIME rather than preventing it.
Wake up and smell the coffee.
Barack Obama - BO Stinks
No guns vote Obama.
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timeisnow wrote:
<quoted text>The NRA is a skin headed KKK thingy you crackers cling to.
More spew from a pile of black trash.
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