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Michael Ejercito
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I wonder why the gay rights movement does not consider the slightest possibility that this could backfire on them. Giving the religious right the ability to credibly paint themselves as defenders of Western liberal democracy seems to be counterproductive to their goals.
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“"Do Not Feed The Trolls"”
Joined: Mar 17, 2007
The entire US of A
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It occurs. However, even if this attempt were to fail, history shows us that the next attempt, or even the next, will eventually succeed.
Look at the changes in the last few years. Each was the result of hundreds of little tiny steps, some forward and some back.
The only certainty is that if no one had tried at all, we would not be where we are today. And if attempts at equality are not made today, justice will only take that much longer.
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I wonder why they keep using the courts? Has it ever occurred to them to get an initiative on the ballot to legalize same-sex "marriage"? A constitutional amendment legally recognizing same-sex "marriage" can not be that difficult to write.
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Joined: Jun 1, 2007
A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA
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Michael Ejercito wrote: I wonder why they keep using the courts?
Has it ever occurred to them to get an initiative on the ballot to legalize same-sex "marriage"? A constitutional amendment legally recognizing same-sex "marriage" can not be that difficult to write. It is the role and duty of the court system to protect minorities from the tyranny of the masses. In many parts of the nation, the ignorant masses are still trying to drag this country back to the Dark Ages. Voting is irrelavent, the civil rights of each and every person are guaranteed by the Consititution
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Joined: Jun 11, 2008
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Brian wrote: <quoted text>
It is ludicrous to suggest that anyone has a "right" to undemocratically force the contrived philosophy of homosexual "marriage" on an unwilling country. The concept is of course a fraud from the start. No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that permits the oxymoron.
Homosexuals are NOT the same as other people. They seldom form longterm exclusive relationships, often completely obsess on perversion, and have much elevated rates of many diseases and social ills. THIS is the reality.
No homosexual "marriage" is recognized by the US Government. We have a democratically established national definition of marriage as solely between one man and one woman.
No law could ever make even one homosexual relationship into a real marriage. It is of course ludicrous to claim that "equal rights" are involved in trying to disenfranchise others on the legal definition of marriage.
Homosexual "marriage" is a complete FRAUD.
Two unequals will NEVER be equal.
No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage, and the two are VERY different.
No homosexual relationships is the "equal" of a real marriage.
Marriage is indeed very different from any homosexual relationship:
Here are some MAJOR differences between real marriage and any sort of homosexual relationship, especially regarding any governmental involvement:
Like it or not, marriage and family are the basic building block of American Society.
No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that allows the contrived oxymoron and only about 1.6% of the US population claims to be GLBT anyway, so homosexual "marriage" fails on this one!
Children are the usual and natural result of real marriage. No child will EVER be born as a direct result of a homosexual relationship, so homomarriage fails on this one, too!
Having both a mother and father in the home is one of the best statistical predictors of a child's future success in life. No homosexual relationship can provide this.
Marriage is recognized as moral and necessary by nearly all Americans. Americans overwhelmingly reject homosexual "marriage" and most find homosexual acts to be immoral and damaging. Gee, Don't you have a life,Did you they kick you out in Starbucks?
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Brian wrote: <quoted text>
It is ludicrous to suggest that anyone has a "right" to undemocratically force the contrived philosophy of homosexual "marriage" on an unwilling country. The concept is of course a fraud from the start. No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that permits the oxymoron.
Homosexuals are NOT the same as other people. They seldom form longterm exclusive relationships, often completely obsess on perversion, and have much elevated rates of many diseases and social ills. THIS is the reality.
No homosexual "marriage" is recognized by the US Government. We have a democratically established national definition of marriage as solely between one man and one woman.
No law could ever make even one homosexual relationship into a real marriage. It is of course ludicrous to claim that "equal rights" are involved in trying to disenfranchise others on the legal definition of marriage.
Homosexual "marriage" is a complete FRAUD.
Two unequals will NEVER be equal.
No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage, and the two are VERY different.
No homosexual relationships is the "equal" of a real marriage.
Marriage is indeed very different from any homosexual relationship:
Here are some MAJOR differences between real marriage and any sort of homosexual relationship, especially regarding any governmental involvement:
Like it or not, marriage and family are the basic building block of American Society.
No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that allows the contrived oxymoron and only about 1.6% of the US population claims to be GLBT anyway, so homosexual "marriage" fails on this one!
Children are the usual and natural result of real marriage. No child will EVER be born as a direct result of a homosexual relationship, so homomarriage fails on this one, too!
Having both a mother and father in the home is one of the best statistical predictors of a child's future success in life. No homosexual relationship can provide this.
Marriage is recognized as moral and necessary by nearly all Americans. Americans overwhelmingly reject homosexual "marriage" and most find homosexual acts to be immoral and damaging. YOU ARE A BIGOT AND FULL of HATRED
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Michael Ejercito
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Liam R wrote: <quoted text>
It is the role and duty of the court system to protect minorities from the tyranny of the masses. Only if it coincides with the Constitution or statute.
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“IBM had it right: "Think"”
Joined: Mar 15, 2007
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mrSteven - this is a spam, from a troll traditional known as "wil" in these fora. just ignore it. You will quickly recognize the cut-and-paste postings and will never get a response mrSteven wrote: <quoted text>
YOU ARE A BIGOT AND FULL of HATRED
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