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Nov 13, 2009
 
this is a nice video about an old book find in palestine (for christian):

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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That’s fine, my Islamic counterpart, if you want to follow the prophet Mahommet. But alas, he was just that, a prophet. Same as Jesus, or Yaweh. Actually one of 40 thousand prophets. I believe God sends messengers, or shall I say, Indeed, sometimes God speaks through people. But not always, messages and truths of God come in many forms. You just need to be paying attention. Many cultures throughout time have looked at the animal kingdom for answers. Answers on community, cleanliness, etc. Prophets are really nothing more than somewhat inciteful people who have figured out how to best use words to convey an idea. Words are the vehicles of ideas and condition if not create attitudes. Some people are natural speakers, good with words and have personality. An ability to persuade others. I think some prophets have been valuable to mankind and brought good messages over time. But again, it is just a man, a perceptive man, but still just a man speaking his belief. Take heed to the good message he brings, but to worship him? No, I do not worship perceptive men who bring good messages. I do thank him for his contribution though.
The problem arises when man tries to force his belief on another. Most of religion and daily life can be delt with by principles of good decision making process….
Making Appropriate Decisions
As you think about appropriate decisions, consider the fact that many of your choices have consequences, certainly to yourself and possibly to others. As you think about decisions, consider three factors:
Responsibility. Some decisions are not really choices at all, but requirements, especially when attached to personal responsibility. If you're a parent, for instance, you must ensure the health and safety of your children. Especially consider who will be affected by your decisions and for whom you may be responsible.
Spontaneity versus Impetuousness. Sometimes there's no reason to not act on a whim or make a quick choice. Actually, it's healthy to be spontaneous at times. On the other hand, acting without thinking can be impetuous and fool hardy. As you make decisions, think about the difference between being spontaneous and being impetuous.
ok thank you for what you said I want just to respond by saying if, when you make a choice, try to satisfay people and in each decision you maid you are affraid from what people will say you will make any decisions and you will never ever satisfay them.
I am proud to be a muslim and I don't care what people think about islam and I also don't care what some people, considering their selves as muslim, do. I have all the answer that I need in Coran and that is enough for me and widely sufficient.
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Nov 13, 2009
 
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there is no reason to think that the universe requires any god.
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certainly not the kind of god that humans invent
so give me an explanation how all the universe started...
ps: sorry we didn't invent any thing

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#874
Nov 13, 2009
 
Science is answers that must always be questioned.
Philosophy is questions that may never be answered.
Religion is answers that must never be questioned.
Politics is answers that lobbyists pay for.

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proud to be muslim wrote:
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so give me an explanation how all the universe started...
ps: sorry we didn't invent any thing
Yes, we did. Every believer has created their god in their own image. Funny how everyone's god is a manifestation of their own values system.
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<quoted text>Yes, we did. Every believer has created their god in their own image. Funny how everyone's god is a manifestation of their own values system.
each thing around you right now has an origine, somone who is responsible of the fact that it's here, even if you never see them you believe that they exist but you say that the univer hasn't someone who is responsible of it's creation! why! I don't know...

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Nov 13, 2009
 
proud to be muslim wrote:
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so give me an explanation how all the universe started...
ps: sorry we didn't invent any thing
you think a lack of understanding forces a god into reality?

irriot

the universe had no start, it always was

I know YOU did not invent your god, you are a follower, you lack sufficient imagination and insight, you are following the god that some other invented.
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you think a lack of understanding forces a god into reality?
irriot
the universe had no start, it always was
I know YOU did not invent your god, you are a follower, you lack sufficient imagination and insight, you are following the god that some other invented.
a lack of understanding ! sorry I didn't get it, you speak about your self I suppose...
let me tell you that each thing that has an end has also a beggining as the earth...
"and We sent down Iron" this sentence come from, of corse, the Koran and do you know what! some researchers studying the composition of the earth and how it started discovered that Iron is a composent different from the earth and it's presence in the earth comes from the impact of meteorites of iron coming from space and so the word 'sent down' describe exactly the fact...
Mahommet (peace beeing upon him) wasn't only a good speaker but also a great genius, he discovered before 1430 years what sciences discovered in our day... unless he didn't write it himself and the koran is not a human speech...

koran(57)
25. We sent aforetime our apostles with Clear Signs and sent down with them the Book and the Balance (of Right and Wrong), that men may stand forth in justice; and We sent down Iron, in which is (material for) mighty war, as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may test who it is that will help, Unseen, Him and His apostles: For Allah is Full of Strength, Exalted in Might (and able to enforce His Will).

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proud to be muslim wrote:
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a lack of understanding ! sorry I didn't get it, you speak about your self I suppose...
let me tell you that each thing that has an end has also a beggining as the earth...
"and We sent down Iron" this sentence come from, of corse, the Koran and do you know what! some researchers studying the composition of the earth and how it started discovered that Iron is a composent different from the earth and it's presence in the earth comes from the impact of meteorites of iron coming from space and so the word 'sent down' describe exactly the fact...
Mahommet (peace beeing upon him) wasn't only a good speaker but also a great genius, he discovered before 1430 years what sciences discovered in our day... unless he didn't write it himself and the koran is not a human speech...
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25. We sent aforetime our apostles with Clear Signs and sent down with them the Book and the Balance (of Right and Wrong), that men may stand forth in justice; and We sent down Iron, in which is (material for) mighty war, as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may test who it is that will help, Unseen, Him and His apostles: For Allah is Full of Strength, Exalted in Might (and able to enforce His Will).
Somebody LIED to you buddy! Where is the research to support that??
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Nov 13, 2009
 
Peace be with the reader.

What is Christianity ?

Christianity, the foundation of the real world,
it leads to the destruction of the pseudo world.
The time of judgment.
The time has come.

Revelation 14
7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea,and the fountains of waters.

Ezekiel 13
14 So will I break down the wall that ye have daubed with untempered morter, and bring it down to the ground, so that the foundation thereof shall be discovered, and it shall fall, and ye shall be consumed in the midst thereof:
and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

Mark 6
11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence,shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

I am The Faithful Witness
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Nov 14, 2009
 
herebspooks wrote:
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Somebody LIED to you buddy! Where is the research to support that??
this is an extract from "Discovery Channel" :

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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proud to be muslim wrote:
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this is an extract from "Discovery Channel" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
You are joking right? Iron "sent" down...that vaguely resembles what actually occur ed......by that "definition" then humans, water, and ALL elements on the planet were "sent down"....this does nothing to support your claim of divine actions. The formation of all the planets was inevitable due to gravitational forces....not because some upstart mystic retrofits his claims to fit certain natural phenomenon....your claim is soooooo very weak!

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a lack of understanding ! sorry I didn't get it, you speak about your self I suppose...
let me tell you that each thing that has an end has also a beggining as the earth...
"and We sent down Iron" this sentence come from, of corse, the Koran and do you know what! some researchers studying the composition of the earth and how it started discovered that Iron is a composent different from the earth and it's presence in the earth comes from the impact of meteorites of iron coming from space and so the word 'sent down' describe exactly the fact...
Mahommet (peace beeing upon him) wasn't only a good speaker but also a great genius, he discovered before 1430 years what sciences discovered in our day... unless he didn't write it himself and the koran is not a human speech...
koran(57)
25. We sent aforetime our apostles with Clear Signs and sent down with them the Book and the Balance (of Right and Wrong), that men may stand forth in justice; and We sent down Iron, in which is (material for) mighty war, as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may test who it is that will help, Unseen, Him and His apostles: For Allah is Full of Strength, Exalted in Might (and able to enforce His Will).
Thanks for sharing your mythology. I recommend you join the 21st century by embracing reality. The world will be a much better place when it sheds silly, oppressive mythology.

Which came first, the god delusion or the infantile mind required to sustain it? Grow up.

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The Faithful Witness wrote:
Peace be with the reader.
What is Christianity ?
Christianity, the foundation of the real world,
it leads to the destruction of the pseudo world.
The time of judgment.
Christianity is simply one of approximately one-million mythologies invented by man over time. As you embrace this myth, you are an atheist to the 999,999 other religions.

Christianity is nothing more than a belief system. There is nothing special about it except that it's yours.

Christianity is nothing more than a retooling of Judaism (Judaism being the first religion to invent the concept of monotheism) which takes bits and pieces from numerous ancient pagan mythologies. It has no original thoughts or ideas. Not one.

Christmas is simply a ripoff of the Roman Saturnalia, a hedonistic festival celebrating the harvest and winter solstice.

There are numerous mythical deities sent as "saviors" and born of virgins PRIOR to the Christ myth. Mithra, an ancient Persian deity that preceded Christianity by 600 years, was born December 25th to a virgin, had twelve disciples and was sent for the salvation of mankind. Even older is Horus of ancient Egyptian mythical fame......oh never mind, in an effort to protect your myth, you'll no doubt launch into godbot mode and ignore the historical facts presented to you.
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Christianity is one of the largest herds, divided against each others into two separate herds one is called catholic and the other is called protestant, now what these two herds have in common with the jewish and the islamic herds, is they are all stampeding toward the same cliff, all infected with mad sheep disease and the symptoms are the same old ones superstitions, hatred and fears, thus they are blinding and are unaware of the cliff up ahead..BE AN UNDIVIDED INDIVIDUAL SEEK THE COUNSEL OF THE INNER SPIRITUAL KINGDOM AND BE LIFTED HIGH UPON A ROCK..PEACE..
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littletree wrote:
Christianity is one of the largest herds, divided against each others into two separate herds one is called catholic and the other is called protestant, now what these two herds have in common with the jewish and the islamic herds, is they are all stampeding toward the same cliff, all infected with mad sheep disease and the symptoms are the same old ones superstitions, hatred and fears, thus they are blinding and are unaware of the cliff up ahead..BE AN UNDIVIDED INDIVIDUAL SEEK THE COUNSEL OF THE INNER SPIRITUAL KINGDOM AND BE LIFTED HIGH UPON A ROCK..PEACE..
littlebush, you have a way with words, you know that? I mean, cliffs and stampedes and stuff. And you, like the Lone Ranger, standing way up there on that big rock, the one that's about to fall out from under your silver spurs and cowboy boots.
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proud to be muslim wrote:
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a lack of understanding ! sorry I didn't get it, you speak about your self I suppose...
let me tell you that each thing that has an end has also a beggining as the earth...
"and We sent down Iron" this sentence come from, of corse, the Koran and do you know what! some researchers studying the composition of the earth and how it started discovered that Iron is a composent different from the earth and it's presence in the earth comes from the impact of meteorites of iron coming from space and so the word 'sent down' describe exactly the fact...
Mahommet (peace beeing upon him) wasn't only a good speaker but also a great genius, he discovered before 1430 years what sciences discovered in our day... unless he didn't write it himself and the koran is not a human speech...
koran(57)
25. We sent aforetime our apostles with Clear Signs and sent down with them the Book and the Balance (of Right and Wrong), that men may stand forth in justice; and We sent down Iron, in which is (material for) mighty war, as well as many benefits for mankind, that Allah may test who it is that will help, Unseen, Him and His apostles: For Allah is Full of Strength, Exalted in Might (and able to enforce His Will).
Greetings, Proud. You may appreciate this quote:

I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. He will rule them with an iron scepter. He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written? King of Kings and Lord of Lords. And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, "Come, gather together for the great supper of God, so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great."
Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the rider on the horse and his army. But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. the rest of them were killed with the sword that came out of the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.

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Christianity is one of the largest herds, divided against each others into two separate herds one is called catholic and the other is called protestant, now what these two herds have in common with the jewish and the islamic herds, is they are all stampeding toward the same cliff, all infected with mad sheep disease and the symptoms are the same old ones superstitions, hatred and fears, thus they are blinding and are unaware of the cliff up ahead..BE AN UNDIVIDED INDIVIDUAL SEEK THE COUNSEL OF THE INNER SPIRITUAL KINGDOM AND BE LIFTED HIGH UPON A ROCK..PEACE..
Please clarify your last sentence. Are you another one of those self-elevated individuals who believes that you are the only one with a personal relationship with a deity yet everyone else simply has a religion? If that's the case, you guys are a dime a dozen. If not, I retract my statement. Please articulate your position, if you would.
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You are joking right? Iron "sent" down...that vaguely resembles what actually occur ed......by that "definition" then humans, water, and ALL elements on the planet were "sent down"....this does nothing to support your claim of divine actions. The formation of all the planets was inevitable due to gravitational forces....not because some upstart mystic retrofits his claims to fit certain natural phenomenon....your claim is soooooo very weak!
well, maybe you are right maybe it's me who just try to defind my belief, or maybe not, the use of the word 'sent down' is a little bit confusing why he didn't use an other word...like 'extract' for exapmle!!!
here you can find many other miracles of quaran reliated to the modern science,http://www.youtube.com/watch...
do it if you want for fun to review your knowledge there are different topics, I'll be waiting for your comment after watching them...
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I have already made this comment and I didn't get any answer from christians and as the topic is 'what is christianity' and this video is about an old bible found in palestine so this is, again, the link to the video and I am waiting for your comment....
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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