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Warsaw, Poland

Jul 29, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

Dalai Lama named honorary citizen of Warsaw

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The Dalai Lama has been named an honorary citizen of Warsaw in recognition of his campaign for Tibet's autonomy.

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run outta cee-gars

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The Dalai Lama is a great man and it is only right that a country like Poland with such a great history of fighting for what is right honours him in such a way. Citizen of Warsaw and Wroclaw, honorary doctorate from the Jagielonian, four visits to Poland ... it's obvious that the Poles like the Dalai Lama and he likes them.

Despite being a religious man, the Dalai Lama sees the value in independent Nation States as a repository of free choice. Interestingly he has also co-written a book on the free market system:

In "The Leader's Way," published this month by Broadway Books, the spiritual leader of Tibet wrote that both business and Buddhism attach importance to happiness and making the right decisions, and a company without "happy employees, customers and shareholders will ultimately fail."

Citing Buddhist basics such as good intentions, a calm mind free of negative thoughts and a realization that nothing is permanent, the Dalai Lama and co-author Laurens van den Muyzenberg tackle timely issues such as corporate compensation, malfeasance and the collapse of the subprime mortgage market.
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Jul 30, 2009
 
I think cee-gars, time for me to read that Book, sounds extremely interesting.
run outta cee-gars

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Jul 30, 2009
 
For me it's all about achieving a balance between real life morals and virtues, and the handed-down artificial ones brian washing whole nations thanks to the corporate controlled media that do everything to get people to want, buy and dispose.

Despite the ongoing venom against religion by the pseudo-establishment, we can all learn much from traditional religions regardless of which one we pick.
smallville

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Jul 30, 2009
 
I always want to ask Poles why Poland support Japan claim on Shandong province of China after WW1? Was that because before WW1 Shandong was in Germany orbit and Germany invaded Poland so Poland hate German then support Japan.

Don't fxck talking about communism with me because there was even no communist party in China at that time at all. Remember, it was Mongol not Chinese invaded Poland several hundred years ago. Something is wrong in you guys brain.
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Jul 30, 2009
 
BRAVO Warsaw!!!
run outta cee-gars wrote:
The Dalai Lama is a great man and it is only right that a country like Poland with such a great history of fighting for what is right honours him in such a way. Citizen of Warsaw and Wroclaw, honorary doctorate from the Jagielonian, four visits to Poland ... it's obvious that the Poles like the Dalai Lama and he likes them.
Despite being a religious man, the Dalai Lama sees the value in independent Nation States as a repository of free choice. Interestingly he has also co-written a book on the free market system:
In "The Leader's Way," published this month by Broadway Books, the spiritual leader of Tibet wrote that both business and Buddhism attach importance to happiness and making the right decisions, and a company without "happy employees, customers and shareholders will ultimately fail."
Citing Buddhist basics such as good intentions, a calm mind free of negative thoughts and a realization that nothing is permanent, the Dalai Lama and co-author Laurens van den Muyzenberg tackle timely issues such as corporate compensation, malfeasance and the collapse of the subprime mortgage market.
run outta cee-gars

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I always want to ask Poles why Poland support Japan claim on Shandong province of China after WW1? Was that because before WW1 Shandong was in Germany orbit and Germany invaded Poland so Poland hate German then support Japan.....
Germany was the issue during the Versaille conference. Japan joined the Western allies, and was rewarded with Shandong at Germany's expense and with agreement from Chinese warlords. That was the political situation in China in 1919.
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Jul 31, 2009
 
run outta cee-gars wrote:
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Germany was the issue during the Versaille conference. Japan joined the Western allies, and was rewarded with Shandong at Germany's expense and with agreement from Chinese warlords. That was the political situation in China in 1919.
Rewarded and agreement from Chinese warlords? Are you joking? Learn some fxcking history. It was Japan suggest that Japan inherit the German legacy in Shandong. And as one of the allied powers the warlord China government did not sign the treaty. Japan's claim was supported by Poland. What fxck is Poland a nation just disappeared in the map for 123 years and barely got independence soon support industrial powers to claim interest on other nation.
Chrobry

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Rewarded and agreement from Chinese warlords? Are you joking? Learn some fxcking history. It was Japan suggest that Japan inherit the German legacy in Shandong. And as one of the allied powers the warlord China government did not sign the treaty. Japan's claim was supported by Poland. What fxck is Poland a nation just disappeared in the map for 123 years and barely got independence soon support industrial powers to claim interest on other nation.
Japan was also Russia's (Soviet Union's) enemy. In foreign relations the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Politics is a "dirty" game and Poland was seeking a counterweight to Russia in Japan. Choices are, sometimes, between evil and lesser evil. The result in China was just due to politics - nothing personal against China.
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Aug 1, 2009
 
I know this was something due to politics but it does not means that Poland should be forgiven. It was simple. Poland made this choice,then it means Poland against China and this was nothing to do with any ideology.
run outta cee-gars

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Aug 2, 2009
 
smallville wrote:
I know this was something due to politics but it does not means that Poland should be forgiven. It was simple. Poland made this choice,then it means Poland against China and this was nothing to do with any ideology.
We're talking politics not ideology. Germany was removed from power (good for Poland, good for China), The Soviets were kept out of the game (good for Poland, good for China), Japan assumed control of Shandong (neutral for Poland, bad for China), Chinese war lords made money at the expense of the people (neutral for Poland, good for the Chinese leadership, bad for the China).

The situation didn't reflect on Polish attitudes to China, but on the weakness of the Chinese leadership.
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Aug 2, 2009
 
No. You go and check the history again. Eventually Chinese warlords did not sign the treaty. Still. Poland made this anti-China decision and should not be forgiven. Or Poland government could just admit that Poland was just a dog of master UK and France and what Poland did was just obey master's order.
run outta cee-gars

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Aug 3, 2009
 
Wrong, let's just say that the Chinese government was weak and corrupt and unable to look after it's territory in the face of smaller enemies.

Do travel thousands of miles around the globe when the problem is in your own mind.

“He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still”
- Lao Tzu
run outta cee-gars

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Wrong, let's just say that the Chinese government was weak and corrupt and unable to look after it's territory in the face of smaller enemies.

DO NOT travel thousands of miles around the globe when the problem is in your own mind.

“He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still”
- Lao Tzu
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Aug 3, 2009
 
Moron. smaller enemies?

For example, the Eight-Nation Alliance which invaded China. It was Austria-Hungary, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States. Almost all major fxcking powers at that time invaded China. It was like EU plus USA plus Russia and Japan.

But yeah. The government was very weak. For example, France lost the war to China but they still got concession from the fxcking government. By the way, France was so hopeless no wonder why France fall within 2 weeks.
run outta cee-gars

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Aug 3, 2009
 
Well I'm glad Poland wasn't involved in that reverse golden horde heading for the gates of Beijing :)

France as a country has never been reliable in wartime, but exceptionally crafty at the politics in-between.

And I'm glad you now appreciate the Chinese leadership could have done more. Had China not moved away from the teachings of Lao Tzu she would have been a far greater power ...
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Aureliusz wrote:
I think cee-gars, time for me to read that Book, sounds extremely interesting.
George burns only lived to 109 smoking cigars...
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run outta cee-gars wrote:
Well I'm glad Poland wasn't involved in that reverse golden horde heading for the gates of Beijing :)
France as a country has never been reliable in wartime, but exceptionally crafty at the politics in-between.
And I'm glad you now appreciate the Chinese leadership could have done more. Had China not moved away from the teachings of Lao Tzu she would have been a far greater power ...
It was impossible for Poland to involve because there was not a nation called Poland at that time.

Well. I respect Lao Tzu and Confucius but I am not intested in their philosophy. I define myself as a historist. I read Chinese history and think by myself. Lao Tzu and Confucius only a small part of history of China.
run outta cee-gars

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.....I read Chinese history and think by myself. Lao Tzu and Confucius only a small part of history of China.
...according to the filtering of history by those who wish to hold onto power against the forces of nature.

Lao Tzu shaped the first half of Chinese History, Confucius the second. There was no one else worthy of their stature. Even Mao would have admitted this in private.

This little dialogue is entirely applicable to this short thread of ours:
http://www.taopage.org/laotzu/confucius.html
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..come on Smallville ... that has to be worth a response, eh?
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smallville wrote:
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It was impossible for Poland to involve because there was not a nation called Poland at that time.
Genetically, there was a Polish nation. It was the Polish state that was suppressed and non-existent at the time. Please do not confuse nation and state. Just as there is no Tibetan state, or Uighur state at present, there still are Tibetan and Uighur nations!!!
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