Judge: immigrants' lawsuit against rancher stands

Associated Press - March 28, 2008 8:54 PM ET TUCSON, Ariz. - A federal judge has denied a southern Arizona rancher's motions to dismiss a civil lawsuit on behalf of illegal immigrants who alleged that he ...

[RoboTech]

11 more U-Visa's, coming up.
I wonder if the rancher can sue on the grounds of aggravated trespassing?
I mean, it's obvious that they were on his land, and in fact will have to testify to that.

[Tickedoffchick]

I don't know the facts of this case. I do know the ranchers are practically prisoners on their own land and nobody is doing anything about it. Maybe this guy just had enough.

[Perplexed]

Since the government refuse to do anything about the illegal invasion, whats a person to do?

[Indyeast]

Mexican-Americans? or Illegal immigrants? It seems the article can't make up it's mind. Typical reporting.

A federal judge has denied a southern Arizona rancher's motions to dismiss a civil lawsuit on behalf of illegal immigrants who alleged that he detained, assaulted, battered and threatened them.

[Indyeast]

http://www.desertinvasion.us/invasion_picture...

2004 report.

[Indyeast]

http://www.borderaction.org/images/3%20lawsui...

interesting details,pdf form.

[Indyeast]

Wow,the reconquista SPLC sure can spin a lie.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/ar...

[Indyeast]

Last fall, they filed a case against Barnett with the advice and financial assistance of the Southern Poverty Law Center (which publishes the Intelligence Report), accusing him of assault, false imprisonment and intentional infliction of emotional distress. They sought $200,000 in damages.

[Cricket 23]

Must be this county!

EDINBURG — Rio Grande Valley law enforcement officials resisted suggestions Wednesday that they should play a larger role in identifying and reporting illegal immigrants to federal authorities.

Enforcing federal immigration law, they said, could hinder efforts to secure their own communities and place overwhelming demands on the time of local officers.

“I see this responsibility shifting closer and closer to municipalities,” McAllen police Chief Victor Rodriguez said.“All that will do is tie up our officers on something we have no control over.”

Their protest came during a joint hearing of the Texas House committees on State Affairs and Border & International Affairs, which have been charged with reviewing recent changes in border security and immigration policies before the next state legislative session in 2009. Their conclusions could influence how $110 million allocated to secure the border in the last session is disbursed.

But throughout Wednesday’s four-hour field hearing in Edinburg, state lawmakers and authorities struggled even to define what border security means.

And some legislators — largely from northern Texas districts — seemed to misunderstand the Valley’s current state of security completely.

“We hear about tanks coming across the border and blowing everybody up,” said state Rep. Dan Flynn, R-Canton.“You don’t have that problem, do you?”

LEAKING DAM
Chief among Valley authorities’ concerns is a federal program that provides training for local law enforcement in immigration law.

Growing statewide concern over illegal immigration could pressure lawmakers to include the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement training in future border security efforts, they said.

“It’s like mending a leaking dam without worrying about the water that just flooded your town,” Hidalgo County Sheriff Lupe Treviño said.“Plugging that leaking dam is the job of the Border Patrol. Mopping up the flood waters, that’s our job.”

So far, at least 28 state, county and local law enforcement agencies nationwide have instituted training to make immigration arrests and prepare illegal crossers for deportation. Hidalgo County, on the other hand, currently maintains a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy when it comes to dealing with illegal immigrants.

While U.S. Border Patrol agents routinely screen inmates’ immigration status at the county jail, sheriff’s deputies avoid the question out in the field. Inquiring about crime victims’ and witnesses’ legal status could intimidate illegal immigrants from coming forward in the future, Treviño said.

“Regardless of immigration status, everybody has the right to equal protection,” he said.

[patriot55]

Indyeast wrote:

Last fall, they filed a case against Barnett with the advice and financial assistance of the Southern Poverty Law Center (which publishes the Intelligence Report), accusing him of assault, false imprisonment and intentional infliction of emotional distress. They sought $200,000 in damages.

The SPLC is right up there with the ACLU IMO. The guy should counter sue for illegal trespass

[patriot55]

Indyeast wrote:

Wow,the reconquista SPLC sure can spin a lie.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/ar...

Amazing. These people were trespassing . You still have the right to protect your proprety,....at least you should have, regardless of the spin the SPLC wants to put on it

[Betsy Ross]

RoboTech wrote:

11 more U-Visa's, coming up.
I wonder if the rancher can sue on the grounds of aggravated trespassing?
I mean, it's obvious that they were on his land, and in fact will have to testify to that.

I wonder if this firm would take his case.

Posted by JRDN Dec 28 2007

Resource below for Americans who seek justice for wrongful termination of employment to hire illegals, businesses who run an honest business being undercut, etc.

Taken from their website: http://www.irli.org/

The Immigration Reform Law Institute (IRLI) is America's only public interest law organization working exclusively to protect the legal rights, privileges, and property of U.S. citizens and their communities from injuries and damages caused by unlawful immigration.

The injuries caused by illegal aliens in your community have become a growing crisis in communities nationwide:

U.S. workers wages and working conditions are hurt when employers discriminate in favor of cheap illegal alien labor.

Honest businesses suffer lost revenue and profits due to unfair competition.

Students experience discrimination when illegal aliens take over their schools and colleges and demand special treatment.

Ordinary Americans suffer life-threatening injury and pain when local police who refuse to cooperate with federal immigration authorities fail to detain drunk driver or criminal illegal aliens.

Greedy landlords turn neighborhood homes and apartments into modern slums by packing them with illegal alien tenants.

Concerned town officials want to respond to citizen complaints without intruding on civil rights, but don't know where to turn for advice.
Civic groups need help to fight nuisance and environmental stress associated with mass influxes of immigrants.

IRLI seeks to defend the rule of law.

---

Fellow posters:
I do not have the energy or know how to contact this rancher,to pass this information along. If any one can please do. RoboTech I realize I attached this to your post. I had the thought about contacting the rancher... after starting this.

[Agent of Chaos]

Here is some of the use of force laws in Texas;
SUBCHAPTER D. PROTECTION OF PROPERTY

§9.41. Protection of one's own property.

(a) A person in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the property.

(b) A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible, movable property by another is justified in using force against the other when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to reenter the land or recover the property if the actor uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit after the dispossession and:

(1) the actor reasonably believes the other had no claim of right when he dispossessed the actor; or

(2) the other accomplished the dispossession by using force, threat, or fraud against the actor.

§9.42. Deadly force to protect property.

A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

[Kulturkampf]

A law that explains why most Texans can't live East of the Mississippi

[camille]

He needs to put a fence around his property and open a rattlesnake farm.

[Twocentsworth]

I would be willing to Bet That Judge Is a Latino !

[patriot55]

Kulturkampf wrote:

A law that explains why most Texans can't live East of the Mississippi

No comrade that is why most leftists cannot live in Texas

[PSL]

Just another moronic Judge. I hope a family of 10 illegal squaters camp out in his back yard
and sh!t all over the place.

[PSL]

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Wish he was running for president!


AMERICA Needs A Leader Like This!?




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[tickedoffchick]

Kulturkampf wrote:

A law that explains why most Texans can't live East of the Mississippi

Kultur,
When i lived in Louisiana, people had the right to shoot trespassers on their property. I don't know how many states do this, but it was necessary in Louisiana, especially in the New Orleans area.