The Shame and Betrayal of Maine's New England Values

[JohnInToronto]

Curteese wrote:

<quoted text>Spanish Inquisition..Crusades, any others I missed?

Yeah, how about all the killings of indigenous peoples while trying to convert them - Mexico, California, South America, and so on!

[CatholicPatriot]

Sacgary wrote:

If you Google "religious wars" you will find the Catholic Church was responsible for millions of deaths.
Any belief that contradicted theirs was considered heresy and they sent armies to kill entire cultures.
The Catholics invented genocide.

You believe every lie you were taught in the public schools don't you? I'll bet you even believe the Catholic church persecuted the protestants of England don't you? Typical brain washed idiot.

[CatholicPatriot]

JohnInToronto wrote:

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Yeah, how about all the killings of indigenous peoples while trying to convert them - Mexico, California, South America, and so on!

Actually, you'll discover 80 percent of the poplulation of most countries south of our border is a mix between the Spaniards and the native population. Typically, only 10 percent is pure blooded Spanish and 10 percent is pure blooded indian.

This is because the Catholic church prohibitted the massacre of the native population and prohibitted enslaving the native population. These countries are integrated. Some were 100 percent integrated. 100 percent mixed. In those countries the natives were so passive they didn't try to kill the Spaniards. Indeed, the Spaniards were their allies against more aggressive tribes.

In the US, the indians faired much worse because the English protestants were quite racist. Many of the tribes were completely exterminated just because they were in the way. Many of the tribes that survived did do by fleeing to Mexico and Canada. The Catholic church prohibitted their slaughter in Mexico and their French and Indian cousins in Quebec prevented their slaughter in Canada even though their were many Canadian protestants advocating their extermination.

[Dan]

JohnInToronto wrote:

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Then please suggest what you think!

Well for one, with the US at 10% unemployment, the business regulations you suggest would be disastrous.

[Duped since birth]

CatholicPatriot wrote:

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You believe every lie you were taught in the public schools don't you? I'll bet you even believe the Catholic church persecuted the protestants of England don't you? Typical brain washed idiot.

Wow, this Catholic Patriot is really brain-washed. Totally blind and unwilling to accept that his holy church has been a HUGE force of evil in the world. You cannot argue or reason with one who cannot see reason.

[Josh in New Orleans]

CatholicPatriot wrote:

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You believe every lie you were taught in the public schools don't you? I'll bet you even believe the Catholic church persecuted the protestants of England don't you? Typical brain washed idiot.

Altogether I have attended (endured rather) fourteen years worth of Catholic schooling and it was Catholicism that taught me about all the "bad" things the Catholic church did. Not to mention one good very good thing the last Pope's did, which was to issue an apology for all the sins of the Chruch. What are you talking about?!

[JohnInToronto]

Dan wrote:

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Well for one, with the US at 10% unemployment, the business regulations you suggest would be disastrous.

Not doing anything is more disasttrous. And how would be people telecommuting be that hard on businesses? It would even allow them to draw talent they might not otherwise be able to because of geography?

[JohnInToronto]

As for restrictions on development, offer a carrot as well as a stick by encouraging density in urban areas with tax breaks, etc. Same with moderate income housing.

[Sacgary]

CatholicPatriot wrote:

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You believe every lie you were taught in the public schools don't you? I'll bet you even believe the Catholic church persecuted the protestants of England don't you? Typical brain washed idiot.

Actually in school I was a brainwashed idiot. It took me 30 years to overcome it and restore myself to an intelligent human...lol.

I didn't invent that stuff. It is available to anyone who will do the research.

You will find, if you weren't to lazy to look and instead chose to belittle another, that this information is available in more than one place.

[Sacgary]

Dan wrote:
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Well for one, with the US at 10% unemployment, the business regulations you suggest would be disastrous.

JohnInToronto wrote:

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Not doing anything is more disasttrous. And how would be people telecommuting be that hard on businesses? It would even allow them to draw talent they might not otherwise be able to because of geography?

And this discussion has WHAT to do with the topic of this thread??

[liseux]

Wherever citizens have been allowed to VOTE on having homosexual "marriage," it has been defeated even in liberal California.

People instinctually know that homosexual sex is unnatural.

Homosexuals can carry on, they just need to realize that they don't have to force the rest of society to normalize and accept what is inherently against nature.

[Shadow Dragon]

liseux wrote:

Wherever citizens have been allowed to VOTE on having homosexual "marriage," it has been defeated even in liberal California.
People instinctually know that homosexual sex is unnatural.
Homosexuals can carry on, they just need to realize that they don't have to force the rest of society to normalize and accept what is inherently against nature.

Homosexual behavior in animals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_animals

[liseux]

Some animals also practice gang rape and extreme violence during sex...

Just because an animal does it doesn't mean that a human, the only animal with reason, should do it.

[Shadow Dragon]

liseux wrote:

Some animals also practice gang rape and extreme violence during sex...
Just because an animal does it doesn't mean that a human, the only animal with reason, should do it.

Typical You confuse with attraction. You don't like gays because they're different,you want the different people to go away. Boo hoo hoo.

[liseux]

Typical- you assume I don't like gays.....

I like them very much, just don't care to have homosexual "marriage" the law of the land.

[JohnInToronto]

Sacgary wrote:

Dan wrote:
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Well for one, with the US at 10% unemployment, the business regulations you suggest would be disastrous.
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And this discussion has WHAT to do with the topic of this thread??

Nothing - off topic, but was replying back to him.

[Shadow Dragon]

liseux wrote:

Typical- you assume I don't like gays.....
I like them very much, just don't care to have homosexual "marriage" the law of the land.

Translation: I don't like that law to change because I was raise to belief that marriage is 1 man and 1 woman but to say otherwise shocks my belief system and I don't want adjust or even change my beliefs and I don't want to the law do that either.

[Venus_Rearmed]

liseux wrote:

Typical- you assume I don't like gays.....
I like them very much, just don't care to have homosexual "marriage" the law of the land.

Why?

[allie topeka]

liseux wrote:

Some animals also practice gang rape and extreme violence during sex...
Just because an animal does it doesn't mean that a human, the only animal with reason, should do it.

actually, i think the mantis has it right:)

[Venus_Rearmed]

allie topeka wrote:

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actually, i think the mantis has it right:)

I have to give you an "amen" on that one! ;)