Many Mormons appalled by Latter-day Saints

When The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints recently announced it would jump into California politics by supporting a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage, many Mormons - including myself - were appalled.

[Wally]

I'd feel upset if the money I gave to my church went to support homosexuality.

[Don]

When a religious entity becomes involved in politics, they should lose their tax exempt status.

[Len]

Ah but of course Rob aka Will and the ever hating Florida hate capitol Ft lauderdale would weigh in with the expected. Will get a new line ok? Although the constant repost of your mess just shows how out of touch, or just out of it you are. As for Ft. Lauderdale don't see you hypocrits refusing gay bucks eh? Isn't that moral prostitution????

[Tammy]

Wally wrote:

I'd feel upset if the money I gave to my church went to support homosexuality.

More than just you would be up set!!!But no true God loving preaching from Gods word would support gay marriages.All true,real,honest christians knows its wrong to be gay.

[Pagan and Proud]

Tammy wrote:

<quoted text>More than just you would be up set!!!But no true God loving preaching from Gods word would support gay marriages.All true,real,honest christians knows its wrong to be gay.

Ah passing judgment on another's beliefs, not the act of a Christian, that's for sure.

[jessinlouisiana]

You need to check your statistics.....what's the divorce rate among straight americans....and what's the rate of homosexual relationships that end?

You people need to worry about yourselves and stop worrying about us. Stop and think to yourself, How much do homosexuals really effect me? We don't.... the whole situation just gives YOU something to complain about.

Rob wrote:

The ridiculous political charade of homosexual "marriage" remains exposed as the fraud that it is.
No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that permits the oxymoron.
Homosexuals are NOT the same as other people. They seldom form longterm exclusive
relationships, often completely obsess on perversion, and have much elevated rates of many diseases and social ills. THIS is the reality.
No homosexual "marriage" is recognized by the US Government. We have a democratically established national definition of marriage as solely between one man and one woman.
No law could ever make even one homosexual relationship into a real marriage. It is of course ludicrous to claim that "equal rights" are involved in trying to disenfranchise others on the legal definition of marriage.
Homosexual "marriage" is a complete FRAUD.
Two unequals will NEVER be equal.
No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage, and the two are VERY different.
No homosexual relationships is the "equal" of a real marriage.
Marriage is indeed very different from any homosexual relationship:
Here are some MAJOR differences between real marriage and any sort of homosexual relationship, especially regarding any governmental involvement:
Like it or not, marriage and family are the basic building block of American Society.
No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that allows the contrived oxymoron and only about 1.6% of the US population claims to be "GLBT" anyway, so homosexual "marriage" fails on this one!
Children are the usual and natural result of real marriage. No child will EVER be born as a direct result of a homosexual relationship, so homomarriage fails on this one, too!
Having both a mother and father in the home is one of the best statistical predictors of a child's future success in life. No homosexual relationship can provide this.
Marriage is recognized as moral and necessary by nearly all Americans. Americans overwhelmingly reject homosexual "marriage" and most find homosexual acts to be immoral and damaging.

[Rick in Kansas]

Tammy wrote:

<quoted text>More than just you would be up set!!!But no true God loving preaching from Gods word would support gay marriages.All true,real,honest christians knows its wrong to be gay.

What makes you of the opinion that God considers YOU a true, real, honest Christian? I've read all of the teachings of Jesus a number of times now and have never heard any of Him in you...

[Tammy]

Rick in Kansas wrote:

<quoted text>
What makes you of the opinion that God considers YOU a true, real, honest Christian? I've read all of the teachings of Jesus a number of times now and have never heard any of Him in you...

I am a real, true, honest christian because of many reasons.
One God sent his son to die for me.
two Jesus rose again.
three when I sin I ask God to forgive me I feel guilty when I sin.
Four I dont quiestion Gods word.
five I dont speak a lie.
six I make no jokes about God.
seven I am not ashamed of God.
eight I live each day as if it was the day God would be back.
Nine I asked God to come into my life.
ten I dont care who judges me for speaking about God.
eleven I wont back down when I know Im right about God.
Not once did I say about good deeds,or money,its all about God and His love.When God comes back I will no longer be here having this conversation with you.I will be in heaven with my Lord.AMEN FOR THAT!!!!MY NAME IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE!IS YOURS?

[IndyStevie]

Tammy wrote:

<quoted text>I am a real, true, honest christian because of many reasons.
One God sent his son to die for me.
two Jesus rose again.
three when I sin I ask God to forgive me I feel guilty when I sin.
Four I dont quiestion Gods word.
five I dont speak a lie.
six I make no jokes about God.
seven I am not ashamed of God.
eight I live each day as if it was the day God would be back.
Nine I asked God to come into my life.
ten I dont care who judges me for speaking about God.
eleven I wont back down when I know Im right about God.
Not once did I say about good deeds,or money,its all about God and His love.When God comes back I will no longer be here having this conversation with you.I will be in heaven with my Lord.AMEN FOR THAT!!!!MY NAME IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE!IS YOURS?

Pompous, judgmental, self-important, boastful... just the same as any other fanatic.

[Pagan and Proud]

Tammy wrote:

<quoted text>I am a real, true, honest christian because of many reasons.
One God sent his son to die for me.

Funny, according to your mythology he died for everyone, not just you.

Tammy wrote:

two Jesus rose again.

That's the myth.

Tammy wrote:

three when I sin I ask God to forgive me I feel guilty when I sin.

No, you don't. You have no problem passing judgment on others or bearing false witness even when it's pointed out.

Tammy wrote:

Four I dont quiestion Gods word.

You've never heard it. You've only read what others claim is god's word. There's a big difference.

Tammy wrote:

five I dont speak a lie.

That is a Lie.

Tammy wrote:

six I make no jokes about God.

Yes, you do when you claim to speak for him.

Tammy wrote:

seven I am not ashamed of God.

Interesting, he's ashamed of people like you.

Tammy wrote:

eight I live each day as if it was the day God would be back.

Not really, otherwise you wouldn't be judging others and bearing false witness. You should have the sense to know when to keep your bigoted mouth shut.

Tammy wrote:

Nine I asked God to come into my life.

Whatever.

Tammy wrote:

ten I dont care who judges me for speaking about God.

No, only intelligent individuals would care, that obviously leaves you out.

Tammy wrote:

eleven I wont back down when I know Im right about God.

You don't know you are right. you believe you are but you can't know.

Tammy wrote:

Not once did I say about good deeds,or money,its all about God and His love.When God comes back I will no longer be here having this conversation with you.I will be in heaven with my Lord.AMEN FOR THAT!!!!MY NAME IS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF LIFE!IS YOURS?

No, you're just another of the false prophets, one who wishes evil on others who do not believe as you do, your pride and arrogance show you know nothing about the mythology you claim to support. Good luck, you'll need it.
Try Therapy, it works.

[Mike]

Rob wrote:

The ridiculous political charade of homosexual "marriage" remains exposed as the fraud that it is.
No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that permits the oxymoron.
Homosexuals are NOT the same as other people. They seldom form longterm exclusive
relationships, often completely obsess on perversion, and have much elevated rates of many diseases and social ills. THIS is the reality.
No homosexual "marriage" is recognized by the US Government. We have a democratically established national definition of marriage as solely between one man and one woman.
No law could ever make even one homosexual relationship into a real marriage. It is of course ludicrous to claim that "equal rights" are involved in trying to disenfranchise others on the legal definition of marriage.
Homosexual "marriage" is a complete FRAUD.
Two unequals will NEVER be equal.
No homosexual relationship shares the reasons for government involvement in real marriage, and the two are VERY different.
No homosexual relationships is the "equal" of a real marriage.
Marriage is indeed very different from any homosexual relationship:
Here are some MAJOR differences between real marriage and any sort of homosexual relationship, especially regarding any governmental involvement:
Like it or not, marriage and family are the basic building block of American Society.
No significant percent of homosexuals has "married" in ANY country that allows the contrived oxymoron and only about 1.6% of the US population claims to be "GLBT" anyway, so homosexual "marriage" fails on this one!
Children are the usual and natural result of real marriage. No child will EVER be born as a direct result of a homosexual relationship, so homomarriage fails on this one, too!
Having both a mother and father in the home is one of the best statistical predictors of a child's future success in life. No homosexual relationship can provide this.
Marriage is recognized as moral and necessary by nearly all Americans. Americans overwhelmingly reject homosexual "marriage" and most find homosexual acts to be immoral and damaging.

Exactly where do you get your information from? I personally know gay couples in very long-term relationships, one couple has been together since WWII. I don't think you know what you're talking about and I'm quite sure you speak from a position of ignorance. Your hatred of gays shows through in your entire post from word one. Maybe you should know more about the people you would condemn before actually doing so.

I'd also like to see your research in stating that there are "no significant numbers of gay that have married in any country that allows it." Marriage equality is a new concept in society and whether it is valid or not depend on whether you believe all of our citizens should be treated equally under the law, which our Constitution guarantees. Or perhaps you are one of those people who supports codifying bigotry into our nation's most prolific document. The fact of the matter is that marriage equality for gays will be a part of the fabric of American society sooner than you.

[jules35]

Not that i care but out of curiousity, why are all you so called christians so upset about gay marriage? How is it going to change your lives? The truth of the matter is that its not, it does NOT effect you one way or the other. If you want to truly change the world go after murderers or child molestors and do something useful with your time.

[WAW]

Wally wrote:

I'd feel upset if the money I gave to my church went to support homosexuality.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I try not to spend my money in anti-gay establishments. You have that right as do I. However church and state should stay separated and if not then the church should pay taxes as I do.

[Jerry]

I think the Utah Mormon Church is just bringing shame and disgrace upon themselves, and their members. Thank God, I no longer live in Utah. There is never any excuse to use to pervert religion into an excuse to practice human principles of hatred, bigotry and prejudice
The Utah Mormon Church doesn't speak for me.
I wonder what the Missouri based Community of Christ - RLDS Church thinks of same sex marriage? Do they agree with the Utah based branch of Mormonism, after all both of these churches follow teachings of Joseph Smith.

[Jerry]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_Chr...

This link is to Wikipedia's article on Community of Christ - RLDS.

[Tom in Houston]

So the Mormons revere Brigham Young (a quasi-pedophile and certified polygamist) and Joseph Smith, but also have the nerve to demand marriage between one man and one woman to abuse Gay families?

Once the Mormons take Brigham Young's name off their University, then perhaps they can talk to use about marriage.

[StevenFL]

Wally wrote:

I'd feel upset if the money I gave to my church went to support homosexuality.

Gee, then you know how I feel, I feel equally upset that my money is given to the US Government to fund the "Faith Based intiatives" that work against me. Get a taste of your own medicine with this.

[ivoryten]

I want to tax the hell out of churches. I am sick and tired of my tax dollars supporting these bigots. If these idiotic Christians want to believe in this nonsense so be it; but not at my expense. Let them pay for their hatred.

[Pagan and Proud]

ivoryten wrote:

I want to tax the hell out of churches. I am sick and tired of my tax dollars supporting these bigots. If these idiotic Christians want to believe in this nonsense so be it; but not at my expense. Let them pay for their hatred.

I have no problem with them believing as they will but the moment they cross the line and begin to suggest to others who they should vote for they become a Political Action Committee and should be treated as one.

[elaygee]

Tom in Houston wrote:

So the Mormons revere Brigham Young (a quasi-pedophile and certified polygamist) and Joseph Smith, but also have the nerve to demand marriage between one man and one woman to abuse Gay families?
Once the Mormons take Brigham Young's name off their University, then perhaps they can talk to use about marriage.

It's the "special underwear" that makes it a jokr religion to me. Any god that would have you wear special underwear is playing a cruel joke on some stupid believers. Menchen tucht un god Lucht.