"The Devil in Dover" by Lauri Lebo Review

For those of you who like a quick and dirty review -- Excellent Book!

It's that understanding of character that has me place this book well above the other two I have read on the trial. I enjoyed the legal machinations in "40 days and 40 nights"by Matthew Chapman and the more extensive coverage of how Dover fits into the larger Evolution/Creationism debate in Edward Humes "Monkey Girl", but the personal nature of the characterizations Lebo describes really brought the trial home for me.

[TedHOhio]

This is a terrific read! I was annoyed when my local three favorite bookstores didn't have it and I had to resort to Amazon, but I was certainly not disappointed! Don't get me wrong, I like Amazon, I just prefer to look at some books before I buy. This time it worked well!

[Darwins Stepchild]

I tried getting this through inter-library loan, but it wasn't available in the Oklahoma library system. I am hoping that is because it is so new, no library has put it on its loan list yet, rather than no library has it on the shelves.

[Darwins Stepchild]

I am looking forward to reading the book. Humes' account was excellent, but was all second hand. Lebo was present for many of the actual school board meetings, as well as the trial. I think the first hand account should be interesting.

[TedHOhio]

Darwins Stepchild wrote:

I tried getting this through inter-library loan, but it wasn't available in the Oklahoma library system. I am hoping that is because it is so new, no library has put it on its loan list yet, rather than no library has it on the shelves.

I use the library for books I refuse to purchase, like Ann Coulter's trash. But I also like having books around as reference, so a book like this one I don't mind paying for. Plus if the author makes some $$ off me, I don't mind. I do mind sending Coulter, Behe, or Dembski one cent. It only encourages them :-)

[Katydid]

TedHOhio wrote:

This is a terrific read! I was annoyed when my local three favorite bookstores didn't have it and I had to resort to Amazon, but I was certainly not disappointed! Don't get me wrong, I like Amazon, I just prefer to look at some books before I buy. This time it worked well!

All of our bookstores in this area are carrying her book; she is sort of a local hero. I am purchasing it also (to support her, in more ways than one). I just received Dr. Miller's book though and I want to read that one first.

It is sad about the relationship between she and her father, I had heard that they did not reconcile their differences before he died.

[Feklahr]

Wow, this book almost sounds interesting enough that I might let someone else give me the gist of it!

[TedHOhio]

Katydid wrote:

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It is sad about the relationship between she and her father, I had heard that they did not reconcile their differences before he died.

It was sad, and I thought she did a great job in laying out her own feelings. I feel sorry for her, but in many ways more sorry for her father. How can a parent believe in something like that to the exclusion of his kids! His obvious, well at least to me, hypocrisy in supporting someone who is knowingly lying is just plain frightening!

[Fossil Bob]

Sounds like a must-read. I'll be checking our own local bookstore (we still have a big, independent, local bookstore:)

[charlieb1950]

Fossil Bob wrote:

Sounds like a must-read. I'll be checking our own local bookstore (we still have a big, independent, local bookstore:)

Tell me ,bob,why is not any fossils or bones found in the grand canyon?

[Chaz]

charlieb1950 wrote:

<quoted text>Tell me ,bob,why is not any fossils or bones found in the grand canyon?

Hey everyone! Charlieb is back!

*parade, marching band, 1000 doves released from their cages*

[Nuggin]

charlieb1950 wrote:

<quoted text>Tell me ,bob,why is not any fossils or bones found in the grand canyon?

There are plenty of fossils and bones found in the grand canyon.

Where do you get your "facts"?

Haven't you noticed that every "point" you try and bring up is 100% false? Doesn't that tell you something about the people you are getting your information from?

Have you ever been to the grand canyon?

EVERY building, EVERY gift shop, EVERY hotel, EVERY tower, EVERY look out point mentions 3 things. The architects, the tourist railroad and the FOSSILS.

[FossilBob]

charlieb1950 wrote:

<quoted text>Tell me ,bob,why is not any fossils or bones found in the grand canyon?

Millions of fossils ARE found in the Grand Canyon. Why did you make up that lie?(For that matter, why did you make up all the other nonsense you've posted?).

Of course, finding "bones" in the lowest strata of the canyon would be a shock. Those strata are older than vertebrate life...not that you understand THAT, either...

[Nuggin]

FossilBob wrote:

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Millions of fossils ARE found in the Grand Canyon. Why did you make up that lie?(For that matter, why did you make up all the other nonsense you've posted?).
Of course, finding "bones" in the lowest strata of the canyon would be a shock. Those strata are older than vertebrate life...not that you understand THAT, either...

Actually they find bones at the bottom of the canyon all the time. Just not fossils.

Lots and lots of bones, usually from drunk guys who died while trying to piss over the lip of the canyon.:)

[FossilBob]

Nuggin wrote:

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Actually they find bones at the bottom of the canyon all the time. Just not fossils.
Lots and lots of bones, usually from drunk guys who died while trying to piss over the lip of the canyon.:)

Well... I've been in and out twice... Must have missed those folks:)

I did see a lot of people on the trails with no water, lousy shoes, etc!

[The Dude]

No-one cares what you think, Charlie.

[hexene]

charlieb1950 wrote:

<quoted text>Tell me ,bob,why is not any fossils or bones found in the grand canyon?

How is the incest porn going for you charlie? Been too busy lately?

[TedHOhio]

Chaz wrote:

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Hey everyone! Charlieb is back!
*parade, marching band, 1000 doves released from their cages*

I didn't even notice it was gone.

[TedHOhio]

FossilBob wrote:

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Millions of fossils ARE found in the Grand Canyon. Why did you make up that lie?(For that matter, why did you make up all the other nonsense you've posted?).
Of course, finding "bones" in the lowest strata of the canyon would be a shock. Those strata are older than vertebrate life...not that you understand THAT, either...

Now it claims no fossils found in the Grand Canyon? What the hell Creationist website did the lying little shit read that one on? Even AIG never attempted a lie like that amongst the other lies they have tried about the Grand Canyon. Desperation, it must be desperation!

[Fossil Bob]

TedHOhio wrote:

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Now it claims no fossils found in the Grand Canyon? What the hell Creationist website did the lying little shit read that one on? Even AIG never attempted a lie like that amongst the other lies they have tried about the Grand Canyon. Desperation, it must be desperation!

Yep... I've never seen THAT claim on any creationist website. He's just living in his fantasy world...

[Jammercolo]

has anyone watched Nova:Judgment Day -- Intelligent Design on Trial

115 min show.I liked it.

http://video.google.com/videoplay...