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2008 Presidential Election

Aug 19, 2008

Obama Suggests $2 Billion In New Funding for NASA

Sen. Barack Obama has detailed a comprehensive space plan that includes $2 billion in new funding to reinvigorate NASA and a promise to make space exploration and science a significantly higher priority if he is elected president.

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Summer Rain

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It will be great to have a President who understands science. Hospitals across the country are refusing to use drugs and devices approved during the last 5 years, due to the political interference with testing and certification, and it doesn't stop there:

[...]interference from the White House is just part of the problem, said Francesca Grifo, a former government researcher and now a director at the Union of Concerned Scientists. Industry lobbyists are all over government agencies, trying to influence research that will impact their corporations, she said. "These special interest groups are being given access at the highest level." ...The Union of Concerned Scientists has been tracking the Bush Administration’s activities within the scientific community. No fewer than 1,191 scientists employed at nine federal agencies have reported to the group that they fear retaliation from their superiors because the results of their research are threatening to corporate or other interests, according to Grifo.

"What we've been seeing is that when certain programs produce research results that are considered inconvenient they are being penalized by having their funding cut," Grifo told IPS. One such program is an annual listing of pollutants released by private companies, called the Toxic Release Inventory....This interference has been directed at climate change research, new birth control drugs, species protection, consumer safety studies and agricultural research, the scientists said.[...]

[...]a microbiologist at the U.S. Department of Agriculture was prevented 11 times from publicizing his research about the dangers of bacteria in the air near massive pig farms in Iowa and Missouri -- a big business that supplies America's pork. His research found that the bacteria are resistant to antibiotics. But his supervisor refused to allow him to discuss his results, saying in one memo to him: "politically sensitive and controversial issues require discretion."
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Aug 19, 2008
 
I just heard he wants to cut NASA. LA times.
What the heck??
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Aug 19, 2008
 
reality check the U.S.A. is bankrupt,arabs and red china is keeping U.S. aflout. Both major parties are in la la land. The solution is cut spending get rid of some gov´t agencies freeze gov´t pay etc.. , etc.. I could go on and least one more thing get out of Iraq. Don´t blame me people I´m voteing Libertarian. vote the lesser of two evils and find you will all be out of work and a house.
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Aug 19, 2008
 
If he is elected and all of the programs that he has proposed are enacted he will have to raise taxes to an all time high.

He will be the greatest "tax and spend" Democrat of all time!

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Aug 19, 2008
 
John in Los Angeles wrote:
I just heard he wants to cut NASA. LA times.
What the heck??
Depends on WHO he's talking to, and WHEN he's talking.
Roy

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Summer Rain wrote:
It will be great to have a President who understands science.
Since neither Obama nor McCain have 'science' degrees, let's look at their real-life experiences to see where 'science' was applied.

As a pilot, McCain had to understand force, velocity, thrust, drag, lift, and others.

As a community organizer and legislator, Obama had to understand ... uh... hmm... gravity.

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Aug 19, 2008
 
Russia and the United States have cooperative space programs in operation, I wonder if the new cold war has the space program stranded.

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Aug 19, 2008
 
John in Los Angeles wrote:
I just heard he wants to cut NASA. LA times.
What the heck??
Obama has lied about everything under the sun so might as well just ignore him.
It's pathological at this point.
Rocco

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Aug 19, 2008
 
Maybe we be able to find the planet the Republicans are living on
Amazing Fakes

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Aug 19, 2008
 
So much for being a new era politician enabled indebted to the small donor...
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Obama Raises $7.8 Million in San Francisco
http://www.kron.com/Global/story.asp...

BARACK OBAMA RAKED $7.8 MILLION SUNDAY...IN SAN FRANCISCO...a VIP dinner crowd - MANY OF WHOM PAID $28,500 to attend.

House Speaker NANCY PELOSI, WHO CALLED HIM "A LEADER GOD HAS BLESSED US WITH AT THIS TIME."

IN APRIL, AT ANOTHER FUNDRAISER IN THIS PROSPEROUS, LIBERAL CITY, OBAMA MADE HIS INFAMOUS REMARKS ABOUT BITTER SMALL TOWN VOTERS WHO "CLING" TO GUNS AND RELIGION.

Obama avoided any such characterizations this time but did say..."The fact of the matter is, at a certain point...people...start saying to themselves,(there is) A PLAGUE ON BOTH YOUR HOUSES.

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This is SO funny it is sickeningly sad. Condemning everyday people who believe in the Bible and the right to bear arms didn't work, so now they try to patronize them.

In Sodom Francisco, the Obama-ssiah is anointed by Nancy Pelosi as a prophet from God - then he takes up the role by echoing Biblical prophecies.

The party of non-believers present us with their Savior...
Summer Rain

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Aug 19, 2008
 
Rocco wrote:
Maybe we be able to find the planet the Republicans are living on
If we can discover its position, we can steer a large curve around it. We can name it "Planet Psycho".
Summer Rain

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Aug 19, 2008
 
Pat H wrote:
If he is elected and all of the programs that he has proposed are enacted he will have to raise taxes to an all time high.
He will be the greatest "tax and spend" Democrat of all time!
You are discounting the effect of government stimulus through projects which will actually build the economy, generate new jobs and spur corporate profits through investing in a privately owned green energy sector of the economy.

Of course, I can't expect you to understand the concepts.
Summer Rain

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Aug 19, 2008
 
Amazing Fakes wrote:
So much for being a new era politician enabled indebted to the small donor...
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Obama Raises $7.8 Million in San Francisco
http://www.kron.com/Global/story.asp...
BARACK OBAMA RAKED $7.8 MILLION SUNDAY...IN SAN FRANCISCO...a VIP dinner crowd - MANY OF WHOM PAID $28,500 to attend...
Anyone who has bothered to learn anything about our political system would know that $28,000 is the limit for a party fundraiser. Obama remains under federal caps and cannot raise more than $2500 per person. Obama was at a PARTY fundraiser, not a campaign fundraiser.

Obama raised $51 Million in July, with 67000 new donors. McCain raised $29 Million.

I won't hold it against you. You're just jealous.
Summer Rain

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Roy wrote:
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Since neither Obama nor McCain have 'science' degrees, let's look at their real-life experiences to see where 'science' was applied.
As a pilot, McCain had to understand force, velocity, thrust, drag, lift, and others.
As a community organizer and legislator, Obama had to understand ... uh... hmm... gravity.
Anyone who would pontificate that life begins at conception has no knowledge of science.

Do you think Obama got out of Columbia University without a working familiarity in science?

Obama graduated in 1977; McCain in the late '50s. McCain hasn't even bothered to learn to work a computer. What gives you the idea that he has any knowledge of science beyond that required to crash 4 planes?

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Summer Rain, you never cease to amaze me with your blind faith in Obama. He is no better than McCain. The key is who are the handlers and power brokers for both of the candidates? I doubt you will get a clear picture of that as both try to scrub their web pages of links to CFR, Tri-Lateral commission, Rockefeller and Kissinger et al.
What might be more meaningful is to see who the handlers prod them to pick as their respective VP choices. I'm not a betting man, but I doubt McCain would fill out a term due to age-related issues, and I suspect Obama wouldn't last a full term due to a trigger happy jerk.
That said, a VP choice who is well-grounded in various affairs of state, economy and other key issues is what will be the determining factor.
Obama and Biden? weird! Obama and Bayh? off the mark. Obama and Richardson? Por que? Obama and the Va. gov.? double inexperience. On the other side Mc and Ridge? Not! Mc and Lieberman? Oy veh!
Mc and Romney? Maybe the smartest pairing.
But as I said, I find little of interest in Mc or Obama. I've been through quite a few election cycles and this is the most over-blown costly, drawn-out contest between two very drab individuals.
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Aug 19, 2008
 
GREAT! Obama is out there promising to spend your tax dollars some more and you blindly believe that he is the "second coming".... You are a nut bag! Plain and simple....haven't you ever heard that good fiscal policy is not accomplished by "spending"? It is done by reining in spending, building the economy up...Mr. Big Spender is offering all these spending plans so that stupid people will vote for him! It can't be done!
Summer Rain

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Roy-I agree with you. As a community organizer-read what Sen Obama had to understand- POLITICAL EXPEDIENCY
Sen Obama's words are ephemeral...they have different meanings from one day to the next based upon who his audience is...
We cant believe A N Y T H I N G that Sen Obama says... NOTHING...
Check out my posts (athy) on
http://www.windycitizen.com/2008/07/ask-a-com...
What is Sen Obama's decision making style?
Does he have a moral compass?
Based upon his position on the partial birth abortion ban...I DO NOT THINK SO.
Born Alive Infants' Protection Act-
described in detail in links below...
Learn about the book that Sen Obama and his campaign DO NOT WANT YOU TO READ…
The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate (Hardcover)
by David Freddoso
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/08/18/final...
http://article.nationalreview.com/...
Everything for Sen Obama appears to be about political expediency…expediency at all costs...
NASA-WHY? Is Sen Obama Channeling JFK again?
athy, this won't make Clinton the nominee. And it won't do a thing for McKinney either. Your silly lies and your right wing blogs impress no one with an IQ above room temperature.
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Aug 20, 2008
 
Your "government stimulus" has worked real well over the last 45 years hasn't it?(see Lyndon Johnson's Great Society for the back story) Hint: NOTHING ever works well where government is involved.
Summer Rain wrote:
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You are discounting the effect of government stimulus through projects which will actually build the economy, generate new jobs and spur corporate profits through investing in a privately owned green energy sector of the economy.
Of course, I can't expect you to understand the concepts.
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Aug 20, 2008
 
Having worked at NASA twice I can honestly say there is more waste at that agency than at any other government entity with which I have been involved. It truly is a welfare program for college educated people. Talk about pouring money down a rathole.... And to all you folks who think science for the sake of science is a great and wonderful I say, form your own organization and privately fund space exploration.
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Aug 20, 2008
 
man hes turning more flukish as he goes,both parties are flukes,, there not seeing clear at all in what americans want and need who needs space cases like nasa,hes already jumping aboard the candy train
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