Master of cut-throat politics won't let Clinton say die

Harold Ickes is sometimes described as Hillary Clinton's "not-so-secret weapon". He is also a master of cut-throat politics and comes from a distinguished family of Democratic insiders.

[Butterfly]

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Just what we are sick of!! When will she get it????? When will this campaing finally understand that THIS is what is driving people away in DROVES!!!

[Dennis]

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Good for Mr. Ickes. Politics is not for the weak. Everyone is treating this thing like it's some American Idol contest. Screw this up and people die. i.e. Al Gore losing to George Bush. Obama supporters running around like some kid on the playground with the only basketball. This isn't a game like hop scotch. This is for the direction of this country and the free world. Senator Obama is nice enough. Smart etc. But is he really ready to be the leader of the freeworld just because he talks a good game?! Hate Hillary all you want but the woman has been under the hot lights of world politics, general election pressure, Republican attack dogs, public embarrassment, hate upon hate and she has survived. If this were a street fight she's kick his a## in a New York minute.

So you would rather have a weak man than a hard as nails woman running this country and the world?!

[Dorian]

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The more she stays..the more she spouts untruths..the more she appears desperate...the more frustrated and demeaning her husband becomes..the more we turn against her and her political demeanor. She is not going to win..she and Bill are NOT going to have their third term...

They truly believe that they deserve a Coronation...and like children who don't get what they want.. they resort to manipulations and transparent racial affronts.

[Dennis]

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What is driving people away in droves is stupidity. People don't read. They dont' really understand the issues at all. A few years ago GWB was all the rage because he was a common man. You could have a beer with him. Al Gore was too intelligent. Well look how that worked out. I am sure you mean well. Senator Obama has all the right credentials except this job is too big and too much is going on right now to leave it to another inexperience person that "hits the right notes" with people. That whole new kind of politician sounds good but it's just an act. People want to say he's the new JFK. Well John Kenndy came from a family of politicians. He was born and bred to lead. He was a war hero. Senator Obama isn't ready for the H-ll the Republicans are going to rain down on him let alone run this country and the world. I'm a Democrat and I'm sick of Democrats acting like dreamers. Obama supports voting to fulfill some dream fantasy of what politics are all about. Well get real. This man isn't all that and if he wins and 4 years from now where will you be butterfly? Are going to apologize for having a hand in whatever disaster Obama creates? Just like the 50+ million that voted for Bush. Are they out in the street apologizing to the thousands that have died in Iraq because they voted for the guy the could have a beer with instead of the guy that was too stiff and too smart for his own good?! Obama isn't the answer. This not some silly game. This is real life and hating Senator Clinton is irrelevant because she is the best person for the job.

[Bob J 1440]

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Dennis wrote:

What is driving people away in droves is stupidity. People don't read. They dont' really understand the issues at all. A few years ago GWB was all the rage because he was a common man. You could have a beer with him. Al Gore was too intelligent. Well look how that worked out. I am sure you mean well. Senator Obama has all the right credentials except this job is too big and too much is going on right now to leave it to another inexperience person that "hits the right notes" with people. That whole new kind of politician sounds good but it's just an act. People want to say he's the new JFK. Well John Kenndy came from a family of politicians. He was born and bred to lead. He was a war hero. Senator Obama isn't ready for the H-ll the Republicans are going to rain down on him let alone run this country and the world. I'm a Democrat and I'm sick of Democrats acting like dreamers. Obama supports voting to fulfill some dream fantasy of what politics are all about. Well get real. This man isn't all that and if he wins and 4 years from now where will you be butterfly? Are going to apologize for having a hand in whatever disaster Obama creates? Just like the 50+ million that voted for Bush. Are they out in the street apologizing to the thousands that have died in Iraq because they voted for the guy the could have a beer with instead of the guy that was too stiff and too smart for his own good?! Obama isn't the answer. This not some silly game. This is real life and hating Senator Clinton is irrelevant because she is the best person for the job.

So how much is Harold Ickes paying you and the others to say this?

The bad part is you try and sound so informed and concerned but your just out to separate the party…

[Dorian]

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Stupidity!! Not so stupid I ever voted for Bush...was always against the Iraq war....always against the neocon ideology....did consider Hilliary...did think Obama was too inexperienced....but I listened..I read... I researched...and now I KNOW..I want change....Do you really now believe that the Clinton's want change? The Clintons who already have had 8 years in the oval office? No, they want the same..the same old power.. their ideology is very similar to McCain re; invading and bombing soverign states..they will sell their souls to have this power back..but before that sale..they will try mightedly to destroy Obama...it is what they do!....so this butterfly has done her research....I will take my chance with someone new..with hope..with change..and finally look forward to a better and more decent administration..one that we can all be proud of. Change is difficult ..but it is always GOOD!

[American for Obama]

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Clinton's Campaign is over. Ask her staff. They are trying to join the Obama's campaign!

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[Malbec lover]

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Just remember that the Harold Ickes that is helping Hillary fight for the Florida and Michigan delegates, is the same Harold Ickes that as a member of the DNC Rules Committee voted to strip Florida and Michigan of their delegates.

[Buzz Flederjon]

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Hill-Dog wants donations to cover the $11 million her campaign owes her/Bill.

If she dropped out she would be out that money.

[Simbledun]

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Ain't 8 years of the Clintons flashing their Hairy Ickies around the Oval Office enough?

[Republican Vallllllues]

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I agree with Charlene about this Republican congressman Vito Fossella who was recently arrested for drunk driving and yesterday admitted to having a child out of wedlock!

Fossella is ANOTHER member of the party that preaches to us about their "family values" and then they get caught having sex (and children) out of wedlock, driving drunk, having sex in bathrooms, groping underage congressional pages, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.

Just do an online search for "Republican scandals" and you'll get a flood of raw sewage!

Or, check out either of these PARTIAL listings of Repugnican pervs:

http://dkosopedia.com/wiki/Republican_Sex_Sca...

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/october172...

[Dorian]

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I do believe that the Clintons are 'demanding' to be on the ticket with Obama...they cannot believe that they are NOT wanted. Their days of power and influence are over.

We now have a Candidate of whom we can be proud..one who has shown such strength against the overwheming Clnton machine..he has had to fight both Bill and Hill...and he did it..so the question is he tough enough...Oh yeah...

Now we have a chance to have a President who is articulate (oh, what a change) strong..intelligent..a man who will negotiate with intelligence, and knowledge...who WIll enact change...

Hilliary will not back off..she needs that power..it is her sustenance..she and Bill have been planning for 8 years for this chance...they will stop at nothing to get that power back..if it means playing dirty to destroy Obama...they will....but he will rise above it....they will not get the chance for their third term

[upuppy]

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American for Obama wrote:

Clinton's Campaign is over. Ask her staff. They are trying to join the Obama's campaign!
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Oh please. You would have to pay me to wear an Obama shirt and you couldn't afford it because I am not that desperate.

[MOE]

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Dorian wrote:

I do believe that the Clintons are 'demanding' to be on the ticket with Obama...they cannot believe that they are NOT wanted. Their days of power and influence are over.
We now have a Candidate of whom we can be proud..one who has shown such strength against the overwheming Clnton machine..he has had to fight both Bill and Hill...and he did it..so the question is he tough enough...Oh yeah...
Now we have a chance to have a President who is articulate (oh, what a change) strong..intelligent..a man who will negotiate with intelligence, and knowledge...who WIll enact change...
Hilliary will not back off..she needs that power..it is her sustenance..she and Bill have been planning for 8 years for this chance...they will stop at nothing to get that power back..if it means playing dirty to destroy Obama...they will....but he will rise above it....they will not get the chance for their third term

WOW, This almost scary !!!!

[upuppy]

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Hey Dennis

The people who voted for George W. are denying that they did. Thats a Republican for you. Watch your back.

[upuppy]

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You people don't really believe Obama is going to win the general election do you?lol

[Squirrel]

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Hillary did win Indiana. Obama couldn't put Hillary away. This is a bad omen for Obama, even if he gets the nomination. Besides, Obama got most of his victories BEFORE the Rev. Wright flap.

[Obama - Class Act]

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My way.
Another means to tell a story of an America Era to be, like none other. Availing of sites
that facilitates the posting of comments. My views and snippets of news to communicate
the urgency of NOW. As like Sen Kennedy - do not pick such a disruptive couple they will
be a distraction. You need to choose a lady of substance Sibalius (phonetic) perhaps.
After O'Reilly's Daddy dearest interview of McCain I know this hero will not cut the mustard
with his he he he-ing and his annoying whistle as he talks. I trust American not being
foolish when it comes to November. I also realize you have to walk that tightrope again
as you had to, with Hillary.

KYers
Its over - don't waste WVers time with false promises NYers have heard time after time. How demeaning that she brags on her following as being uneducated blue collar types - Thank god we have such hard workers to help America to be what she needs to be and will continue being like never before. A new page to boggle the mind of the people of our planet. And it came to pass a prophet came forth to lead us to greatness unimaginable.

Makes no sense to waste one's vote on a divisive panderer. Those in the know, realize its about time to stop messing with that wild eyed female George Forman whose plans would drain all the juice from our steak. Third termer Billy salivating at the thought of another $109,000,00 coming to the faustian couple.

"Our people, I think, recognize the enthusiasm and vitality behind Senator Obama's campaign," he said in a statement. "The election is over, everybody knows that. Obama has won," said Vernon Watkins, one of the two Californians.

"After careful consideration, I have reached the conclusion that Barack Obama can best bring about the change that our country so desperately wants and needs," said Payne, who in a statement said that Clinton is a good friend and he still holds her in high regard.



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[martymar]

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Dennis wrote:

Good for Mr. Ickes. Politics is not for the weak. Everyone is treating this thing like it's some American Idol contest. Screw this up and people die. i.e. Al Gore losing to George Bush. Obama supporters running around like some kid on the playground with the only basketball. This isn't a game like hop scotch. This is for the direction of this country and the free world. Senator Obama is nice enough. Smart etc. But is he really ready to be the leader of the freeworld just because he talks a good game?! Hate Hillary all you want but the woman has been under the hot lights of world politics, general election pressure, Republican attack dogs, public embarrassment, hate upon hate and she has survived. If this were a street fight she's kick his a## in a New York minute.
So you would rather have a weak man than a hard as nails woman running this country and the world?!

Its not about who can kick ass Dennis. a strong man looks for peaceful solutions to domestic and world problems...Barack Obama is truly a peacemaker and a gentleman. Qualities very rare in a world of people like you ready to fight at the drop of a dime. Don't worry i do believe streetfighter part 3 is coming out at theatres soon for you.

[Ken]

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Buzz Flederjon wrote:

Hill-Dog wants donations to cover the $11 million her campaign owes her/Bill.
If she dropped out she would be out that money.

What a shame.