As many as 9 killed in Fort Hood shootings, officials say

Tama Samoa wrote:

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what more proof do you need...? You are just too stupid to connect the dots. Every suicide bomber terrorist have scream the same words muhhamed followers have call out as their last cry..ALLAH AKBAR!!!! From now on anytime you hear anyone who screams out allah akbar in a mall or in any gathering you just need to put a bullet in their heads and then you question them later...Are you one of those air heads who sympathise with these muslim terrorist? Go jump off the cliff, that will make more sense.

You want to come give me a push? I guarantee you you'll be going off the same cliff with me. What more proof do I need? More than you'll ever be capable of providing, given your mustard seed sized brain.

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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The law does not prohibit harassment, perjury or slander; there are criminal penalties and other legal consequences for harassing, for committing perjury, or slander, but they are not prohibited by law. When something is prohibited, it simply can't be done UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES and there's no such provision regarding free speech. Neither a condition, nor criminal penalty is tantamount to prohibition. If your argument held water, then you could say that the law prohibits murder, when it's clear it does not. I'm not prohibited from killing an attacker who's seeking to kill me. Thus, there are instances in which murder is not punishable and excusable, but never prohibited. The right to free speech is restricted by the intricacies found mostly in the private sector, especially with private employers. But neither of these apply to "nutcases" which is the point I was driving home in the post to which you replied. You missed the sarcasm in my post.
BTW, some of us did graduate law school.

hey. genius. do you know the definition of "murder"?

quote, "the UNLAWFUL killing of another human being".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MURDER

SELF-DEFENSE is NOT the unlawful killing of another human being.

just how long have you been smoking marijuana or taking drugs? evidently, you have gone way beyond what a normal person can tolerate before going crazy.

you do not know what is right or wrong anymore?

apparently, everything is gray to you. right or wrong depending on YOUR interpretation.

laws were made to prevent chaos. if we follow YOUR interpretation of the law, tell me this.. maybe it is ok for me to kill you because you evidently do not respect the laws of my country?..my religion?..the koran?

sound familiar?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

when that little man in iran nukes israel, we will destroy the symbol of YOUR fu#king religion in mecca. and MORE!

just a matter of time, bro.

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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You want to come give me a push? I guarantee you you'll be going off the same cliff with me. What more proof do I need? More than you'll ever be capable of providing, given your mustard seed sized brain.

don't forget to wipe you azz after you eat. You sound sound more stupid than you think...

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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You want to come give me a push? I guarantee you you'll be going off the same cliff with me. What more proof do I need? More than you'll ever be capable of providing, given your mustard seed sized brain.

I would gladly do it but since I am not a muslim who strap themselves up with expolsives to kill innocent people and I am not a coward who would sneak behind you like your muslim friends. I love God and I love this country and I will not hestitate to meet face to face and show you what it means to be a real soldiers who can fight you with my two hands...You are a scumbag who needs to be hang upside down from our flag pole because of your support of these muslim terrorist cowards...

So do us all a favor and go jump off a cliff...its the only sensible way to reason with you...

lisa wrote:

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This man was not an Arab, he was an American, born in Virginia.

He was second generation palestinian arab.

Burt wrote:

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He was second generation palestinian arab.

He was a Palestinian enough said.. ask israelis.. Palestinians are animals.. Muslims are animals

pinebeetle wrote:

BTW, Topix is a liberal website.

I knew it. I just knew it. You can just smell it, can't you, the liberalism. Thanks for digging that up and reporting on it.

I've been looking for years for some kind of a clue as to which way Topix leaned politically, and I couldn't find even one opinion from them on any subject outside of their rules of posting etiquette, which really don't seem all that political. But if they're from liberals, then you can be sure that there's something decadent about them.

Typical America-hating, stealth liberal agenda. Wake up, people!

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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Prove what you're saying. Otherwise it's merely an opinion and opinions are like A_holes.

and your's stinks. Samoa is an American. You are not.

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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ROFLMFAOPMP!!!

What is PMP ?

Mr Noitawl wrote:

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What is PMP ?

Peeing My Pants?

Tama Samoa wrote:

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don't forget to wipe you azz after you eat. You sound sound more stupid than you think...

You write that incoherent statement and then call somebody else stupid?

It aint necessarily so wrote:

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I knew it. I just knew it. You can just smell it, can't you, the liberalism. Thanks for digging that up and reporting on it.
I've been looking for years for some kind of a clue as to which way Topix leaned politically, and I couldn't find even one opinion from them on any subject outside of their rules of posting etiquette, which really don't seem all that political. But if they're from liberals, then you can be sure that there's something decadent about them.
Typical America-hating, stealth liberal agenda. Wake up, people!

I'm assuming you are being sarcastic, since the great majority of people on here are to the right of Atila the Hun.

The USA is LOSING this WAR on so many levels

Keep sending KIDS to die

Keep wasting billions

Americans are idiots....plain IDIOTS

This war has NOTHING to do with FREEDOM...everything to do with MONEY

Which ones? It seems miraculous that the minute the left talks about the law, they're all law school grads. If they talk about soldiers, they're all veterans. Try inciting a riot and see if there's no legal recourse against you. Try threatening to kill someone through the mail or Internet and see if you're still posting from home or jail.

How do you think the constitution defends the right to murder? It doesn't. You have the right to self defense and that's assuming that you're not trying to escape the long arm of the law. If you set up a loaded gun to protect your property so that it goes off when someone enters, you'll find yourself in prison of is someone is injured or killed as a result.

The Bill of Rigths doesn't give people free reign to infringe on the rights of others. If it did, the left could never do a thing about "hate" speech. I personally agree that hate speech is unwarrented. ALL OF IT. Especially when you can for the people to rise up and repeatedly call on others to kill harm others or make direct death threaths. At that point, you should have no protection, whether you're a Jihadi or the KKK or or anyone else bent on harming others.

The Aussis made it quite clear how they would deal with radical Imams in their country. We need to do the same. Only an idiot would believe that someone constantly calling to harm us would not eventually making good on the threat. The London Bombings should have shown the UK that was true after all the marches calling for the destruction and overthrow of Britain.

There's no room for that sort of hatred and nobody has the right to free speech that infringes on our right to live. If you think otherwise, then kindly offer yourself as the next victim. Hasan planned the murders, tried repeatedly to contact Al Qaeda, made it clear during his attack what his motivation was, made it clear in presentations and his speech to others and his blogs and his willingness to attend a Mosque with a hateful Imam. He was an individual terrorist acting on Islamic extremism and saying the truth is no threat or condemnation against any Muslim who is not an extremist. Political corrects allowed our government to fail to stop this mass murdering scumbag. Time to put an end to such stupidity, expecially with all the recent terrorist plots aimed at this country.

I'll burst your bubble. This is an ongoing war and they'll fight it whether you chose to or not.

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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The law does not prohibit harassment, perjury or slander; there are criminal penalties and other legal consequences for harassing, for committing perjury, or slander, but they are not prohibited by law. When something is prohibited, it simply can't be done UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES and there's no such provision regarding free speech. Neither a condition, nor criminal penalty is tantamount to prohibition. If your argument held water, then you could say that the law prohibits murder, when it's clear it does not. I'm not prohibited from killing an attacker who's seeking to kill me. Thus, there are instances in which murder is not punishable and excusable, but never prohibited. The right to free speech is restricted by the intricacies found mostly in the private sector, especially with private employers. But neither of these apply to "nutcases" which is the point I was driving home in the post to which you replied. You missed the sarcasm in my post.
BTW, some of us did graduate law school.

Sometimes cattle need to put down. You're one mad cow and I hope you get that suicide bomber hug you've been yearning for.

YOU are the idiot. A hateful piece of scum who has no problem with terrorists murdering freely. There were 13 good soliders in that masscacre who you should have traded the place of.

Imagine it the irony does hit you when you use the phrase "keep sending kids to die" while terrorists send children strapped with bombs to murder men women and children. If you want to call our soldiers kids, 13 of them were murdered by the scum we need to stop.

rattlecattle wrote:

The USA is LOSING this WAR on so many levels
Keep sending KIDS to die
Keep wasting billions
Americans are idiots....plain IDIOTS
This war has NOTHING to do with FREEDOM...everything to do with MONEY

Asian Guy wrote:

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hey. genius. do you know the definition of "murder"?
quote, "the UNLAWFUL killing of another human being".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MURDER
SELF-DEFENSE is NOT the unlawful killing of another human being.
just how long have you been smoking marijuana or taking drugs? evidently, you have gone way beyond what a normal person can tolerate before going crazy.
you do not know what is right or wrong anymore?
apparently, everything is gray to you. right or wrong depending on YOUR interpretation.
laws were made to prevent chaos. if we follow YOUR interpretation of the law, tell me this.. maybe it is ok for me to kill you because you evidently do not respect the laws of my country?..my religion?..the koran?
sound familiar?
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
when that little man in iran nukes israel, we will destroy the symbol of YOUR fu#king religion in mecca. and MORE!
just a matter of time, bro.

You really know your law. I think there's a position for janitor in my firm. Are you interested? Make sure your I-9 is in order, because I don't hire illegal aliens.

saviorself wrote:

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and your's stinks. Samoa is an American. You are not.

And you know this how?

FKLBRLS wrote:

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You're not bursting anyone's bubble. First, I don't take sides on many issues; I stay on the fence. But, on certain issues I do lean slightly to the left, while on some I lean slightly to the right. A perfect example is that I believe in Capital Punishment, yet I am pro-choice. Second, I did graduate law school after resigning my commission in the USAF. Don't believe me? Fine. IDC. And as far as the Constitution defending the right to murder, I have made no such statement. If that's your interpretation, I apologize for the inference, but my comment dealt with what's prohibited. I know that's an easy subject to confuse, but follow me on this. You're free to disagree.

Criminal consequences associated with murder, or any other form of unlawful killing, whether with intent or otherwise, are merely a deterrent and not a prohibition. A prohibition infers that a law or decree that forbids something exists. Nothing in the law expressly says you can't murder anyone. However, everything in the law prescribes consequences for murdering someone, but the act in and of itself, is not prohibited. Its "prohibition," so to speak, is contingent upon the presumption that the people would not want to murder, and would advocate for the preservation of life. Murder, is also somewhat subjective. Take abortion for example; some people swear it's murder, others don't, because the law says a woman can terminate pregnancy so long as it's done within certain parameters, which I will not discuss in this thread.

Regarding your comments on the Bill of Rights and the infringement into others rights by anyone, I am in complete agreement with you. The First Amendment clearly states that any assemblies of the people must be peaceful. Then again, I have never spoken against that.

Look, I'm in complete agreement that we need to be more aware of the plausibilities of terrorism, especially when someone who is, or could be reasonably pre-determined to engage in terrorism speaks of it. But, it wasn't political correctness that failed to catch this guy. You can't accuse and point fingers at any political agency, or Federal Law Enforcement Agency because they did their jobs and the guy knew how to outsmart them. What happened is a tragedy, and while I have not seen all the evidence, if 50% of what is said is true, the FBI couldn't prosecute him prior to what happened, because the communications examined were deemed constitutionally protected, or otherwise non-threatening. The law does not provide for vigilante violence and is necessary for the collective good of the people that matters involving law enforcement, including, but not limited to investigations and prosecution, be left to professionals in the subject, and not to just every tom d*ck and harry with a gun and a CWP.

Now this is what flabbergasts me; and no disrespect to the dead intended, but why are we making this guy to be such a menace and why are we making the victims into such martyrs, when all they were doing was going about their business on post? We should be having the President speak every time a troop loses his/her life in the field of battle as well. Unless, of course, the propensity of harm, or the lives of those who've have been KIA are not open for Presidential consideration.

Conservative Democrat wrote:

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Please have the decency to not make stereotypical remarks, whether by question or otherwise. There's nothing wrong with liberals, at least not anymore than it's wrong with conservatives, and liberals die in our wars and serve our Country, just like conservatives do. I'm an example of the latter.
The fact that the man was born in Virginia, makes him an American, regardless of his heritage, lest you forget that in this Country, except for the Native Americans, we're all immigrants. So do include yourself in that group. And as far as him being a Muslim loyalist, that's no different that anyone being a Christian loyalist. So what's your point, that because he is Muslim he's axiomatically a terrorist?
Who's the dumbass now?

Your right, his middle eastern parents and middle eastern religious upbringing had absolutely nothing to do with these murders of American soldiers. go to hell DUMBASS muslim/obama sympathizer.

Asian Guy wrote:

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muslims ARE guilty by association.
to be muslim merely means you believe in the words of the koran. and as we know, the koran explicitly mandates for the extermination of the jews, and waging war against non-muslims.
your analogy that you cannot judge all muslims by the actions of a few is bullshit.
..would you talk of "moderate" nazis? or "moderate" KKK?
anybody who claims to be associated with nazism, or KKK does so by their own choice.
as there are NO innocent nazis or KKK, there are NO "moderate" muslims.
consider this...
when that "little man in iran" made his famous speeches TWICE in the UN to "wipe israel off the map", did we see ANY muslim country exit the UN with all the non-muslim countries who did so to protest?
UNDERSTAND the danger.

Your speech is dangerous and anti-American. Muslims are free to be Muslims in this country the same as Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Wickans, Scientologists, Shintoists, Heavens Gaters, Hindus, Sikhs etc. etc. etc. To single out a particular faith for persecution is Nazi.