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Just because someone defeats your argument, doesn't make them a homophobe ... which does not exist. Nor does "marriage equality." Making up magically terms that do not exist is just crazy. (Jan 28, 2015 | post #63669)
If it's open to interpretation, as any union and its purpose actually is, then it has nothing to do with rights or the constitution. (Jan 28, 2015 | post #63668)
Why? Says who? Is it a legal requirement for a corporation to make a profit? Procreation is the purpose, that does not mean it needs to be a legal requirement. It is perfect rational. YOU fail to make a rational argument every time, and then accuse others of it. We see what you are doing, it won't work. No denial of equal protection under the law has ever been proven with a rational argument. Different unions for different purposes, makes perfect sense. (Jan 28, 2015 | post #63667)
Then it's not freedom of association. People cannot be compelled to associate with criminals. Public square or marketplace? Public does not equate government, and individual liberty does not mean only in your home or church. In fact, try forcing yourself to associate with someone in public ... that's called stalking. Idiocy! (Jan 28, 2015 | post #63665)
Agreed. But that has nothing to do with becoming a member of institutions, which is a surrendering of rights. For example, transparency in government. Politicians have to surrender a right to privacy at work, as what they do is a public concern. Thus, when you join a group, which includes getting married, you surrender rights for privileges. Corporations, marriages, governments, are simply not and never can be "equal." And ONLY the government is bound to treat people equally, while other institutions are not. Just as are not required ethically, morally, or legally to treat each other equally, as we are private citizens, and not bound by government restrictions. (Jan 27, 2015 | post #1041)
The state oversees it regardless. Common law marriage, no marriage, or whatever, all human interactions are by definition a public concern. (Jan 27, 2015 | post #1037)
Very good. But the idiot is the one that quotes the very words that support my statement ... that governments are instituted amongst men ... thus, subservient to the will of. Duh! Corporations and governments are instituted as legal protections to do certain tasks ... just like marriage. It absolutely is the same thing, no matter how much you want to wiggle out of it. All marriages are instituted among men (both sexes, of course, lest the idiots cry sexism!) too. Marriages are instituted the SECURE RIGHTS. LOL!!!!!!!!!! (Jan 27, 2015 | post #1032)
No, the people through MANY institutions that specialize in various social affairs decide how best to protect humanity ... not "rights" which change with time, obviously. Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness are your own natural rights, universal to all mankind, regardless of your location on the planet. Beyond that, it's all subjective and relative. The state is NOT the only agency that speaks for society, either. A common error you seem to make. (Jan 27, 2015 | post #1031)
The State is the agency that enforces the people's will. You know, the whole idea of democracy and SERVING, rather than RULING? The state does nothing without consent of the governed. Thus, society regulates how humans treat each other, the condition for being part of the group. Of course, if you don't like it, you can leave the group. ;) (Jan 27, 2015 | post #1030)
It certainly is. The whole POINT of living in a community is joining together to decide what we can, and cannot do, for the good of the community. This is really rudimentary basics, my friend. (Jan 27, 2015 | post #1029)
Mm, if you want to get married, you get a license. If you want to start a corporation, you get a license. If you start a government, well, you got to get permission from the people, and people to join you. In all cases, the people give permission. It's so simple it hurts! (Jan 26, 2015 | post #1023)
http://en.wikipedi a.org/wiki/License Uh huh. Yeah, you got permission. Just like I did, by the State of Nevada, which enforces the will of the Nevadan people, who gave us permission to marry in their state. Stupid. Just pure stupid. (Jan 26, 2015 | post #1022)
Actually, you did need our permission. You got a license. (Face palm.) You know, the people are against incest, so we impose restrictions, stupid. (Jan 26, 2015 | post #1017)
OMG, Justices don't run the country. The people run the country. How is marriage a privilege? Because you don't own any other human beings, and can make anyone marry you. Because the says of slavery are over. Holy crap, dude. Are you REALLY that stupid? Yes, yes you are. You are what is so wrong with this country. Profound ignorance! No, the States have been enforcing what people wanted about marriage. Of course, it was Martin Luther that thought that the State should have any say over marriage at all. So, are you defending Luther now? He also was an idiot that thought the State should tell us what to do. Of course they can't control each other. There is no one supreme institution, silly. Thus, the separation of church and state. And you wonder why I call you a fascist ... only they believed one institution was superior to all others! (Jan 26, 2015 | post #1016)
Freedom of association is a right. The right not to compelled to associate with people whom we decide are criminals, immoral, or untrustworthy. Oh, and yes, the individual decides that, not the State ... since you keep making fascist arguments. Oh, but they are a business, you argue, and must go by DIFFERENT laws? You mean like marriage laws??? Don't even try and pull that. (Jan 26, 2015 | post #63599)
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