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MIKE and TED NEED TO GO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

Yup way to go Ted. You've built a mediocre through the draft and McCarthy is beyond hope. Time to kick these clowns out of town.  (Nov 8, 2009 | post #10)

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Draft overview: Thompson bulks up roster

I will start off by saying I'm not a huge fan of TT. He seems a bit too full of himself and he obviously has a serious problem with taking chances in free agency. As a fan I want to see him get out there and take a chance on a proven established player once in a while. I want to know what to expect from the players on the team if I'm going to support and really be excited about it. And please Ted don't chase any more HOF qb's out of green bay its kind of a downer. I think he does a good job with drafting, not the best in the business as some people want to believe. He has drafted a lot of busts too, but for the most part I feel pretty confident in his drafting ability. I was very happy with his draft class this year. With the 3-4 we needed a nose takle and depth at linebacker. He went out there and got it. Good job TT? Not quite. We'll see how his players develop. But I will admit I feel pretty good about them. Now if he could just take the blinders off and use the free agent market a bit more. Just remember draft picks can turn into busts and free agents don't always produce like a GM had envisioned them to so why not take your best educated guesses using all the tools at a GM's disposal it doesn't need to be one or the other. I'm just saying balance out the teams money and take a chance on some free agents once in a while. An average of 6 wins per season isn't a strong indicator that Ted has this team headed to the promised land if he keeps running things like he has. Its cool to think if these guys develop into the players we hope that they can be then wow we have a great team here, but someone has to point out to TT that the proof is in the pudding and his pudding, while unique, is pretty mediocre so far.  (Apr 29, 2009 | post #35)

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Thompson: 'We could have been better'

Where did my comments go? Posted once showed up then disappeard. Did it again same thing. I don't want to repost in case it shows up later.  (Apr 10, 2009 | post #34)

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Thompson: 'We could have been better'

First off TT baffles me from time to time... Ok a lot. Very reluctant to make impact moves and he seems very removed from the players. More so than a GM should be. Now there seems to be a pattern of him alienating and angering players. He seems intimidated by bringing in big name players as they may make more of an impact on the team than the almighty TT himself. Let's face it the patriots take on a lot of experienced big name players on the late side of their careers and plug them into their system and it works for them. Its hard to argue consistent success. The red wings have a set of core guys and bring in new talent every year through free agency it in hockey and it may be the hardest sport to manage a salary cap IMO. But let's get back to football. While I understand many are searching for a ring in new england and they get a discount price on these free agents it pisses me off that TT is the anti patriots model. He hopes and prays that the core players, which I think is a pretty good group of players to have, in gb work out and pretty much ignores free agency. But come on bring in some complementary proven talent once in a while. It shouldn't be so hard to answer the question how has TT imroved the team over last year or the year before that now that I think of it. There's the draft AND free agency that's a gm's tools. Why a man would go to work with only half of his tools baffles me. Consistent success is what a GM is graded on and there's no way you can argue that tt is creating an environment that breeds consistent success. Now we have a new defensive system which requires different skill sets for players and I fear we may fall into a revolving door for a head coach if this season is not successful. Let's hope it is a great season as packer fans but if its not tt needs some serious evaluations on him not MM as he is more or less just TT's yes man.  (Apr 10, 2009 | post #33)

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Thompson: 'We could have been better'

First off TT baffles me from time to time... Ok a lot. Very reluctant to make impact moves and he seems very removed from the players. More so than a GM should be. Now there seems to be a pattern of him alienating and angering players. He seems intimidated by bringing in big name players as they may make more of an impact on the team than the almighty TT himself. Let's face it the patriots take on a lot of experienced big name players on the late side of their careers and plug them into their system and it works for them. Its hard to argue consistent success. The red wings have a set of core guys and bring in new talent every year through free agency it in hockey and it may be the hardest sport to manage a salary cap IMO. But let's get back to football. While I understand many are searching for a ring in new england and they get a discount price on these free agents it pisses me off that TT is the anti patriots model. He hopes and prays that the core players, which I think is a pretty good group of players to have, in gb work out and pretty much ignores free agency. But come on bring in some complementary proven talent once in a while. It shouldn't be so hard to answer the question how has TT imroved the team over last year or the year before that now that I think of it. There's the draft AND free agency that's a gm's tools. Why a man would go to work with only half of his tools baffles me. Consistent success is what a GM is graded on and there's no way you can argue that tt is creating an environment that breeds consistent success. Now we have a new defensive system which requires different skill sets for players and I fear we may fall into a revolving door for a head coach if this season is not successful. Let's hope it is a great season as packer fans but if its not tt needs some serious evaluations on him not MM as he is more or less just TT's yes man.  (Apr 10, 2009 | post #31)

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Healthy salary cap gives Thompson flexibility

Normallylikeyellow thanks for clarifying that for me with the grant contract. I don't want to come off as anti-grant by any means I respect him as a player and I am happy to have him on the team. And while I'm on specific players the peppers deal isn't all that perfect in green bay either because they are already moving kampman to the olb position in the 3-4 defense and that's the position that peppers wants to play at so to me that would seem a bit foolish to have that much $ tied up in one spot. All the former panthers personnel that now resides in green bay aside I think peppers is essentially saying he wants to leave Carolina for new England and chase a championship there. While I am definately watching TT a lot closer and am more critical of him this year because of how the favre situation was handled, it is a bit bothersome to me that he seems a little overconfident and prickish in his handling of big name players. Its as if he doesn't want anyone there who is a threat to him in the perception of the players or fans and he wants a "yes man" as a coach. He's like that teacher who if you ask why something works his only response is because I say so. My biggest problem with TT the free agent market and trades that are presented to him and make sense for team needs and absolutely refused. While I would hate to see a situation such as Washington or Dallas where year after year money was wasted on the biggest free agents on the market only to find out the players didn't fit a system or lockerroom bickering is a constant problem, I would like to see TT make a move or two with the loads of cap space. TT has wiffed on trades and free agents such as moss or Turner but then again so did everyother team besides New England and Atlanta I guess. Having cap space to follow through on players you draft for the plan at hand is a good thing but sometimes you need to jump on a deal and make an impact too. Sometimes you need to open the pocket book on a big name player (Reggie White) or roll the dice on an unknown guy that you absolutely believe in (Brett Favre) to turn things around for a team. After all it has worked here before.  (Feb 16, 2009 | post #12)

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Rodgers tired of Favre references

Well said  (Feb 15, 2009 | post #4)

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Healthy salary cap gives Thompson flexibility

Yup once again there's a ton of cap space but I doubt any of it will be spent on any impact players if TT's past record is any type of indicator. He refuses to spend it in any significant way. There's the J. Peppers rumors going on right now which to me makes a lot of sense. He wants to move to a 3-4 defense which our packer's defense will now use and the defensive staff is loaded with former panther coaches and associates of the Carolina panthers in general, but I'm willing to bet that old Teddy boy will once again refuse to open the pocket book and bone that deal too. Teddy could have got Moss refused to do it and he went on to break the NFL receiving touchdown record that year. Could have got gone after Michael Turner while he was in San Diego and made a trade giving up a valuable 1st round draft pick and which he eventually traded away on draft day anyway plus cash. but nah well go the down the " cheaper" path and pick up Ryan Grant only after injuries decimated all the other running backs that year and then had to enter into drawn out contract negotiations after the season that kept him away from training camp. Grant's OK but not worth what they had to pay him for a half of year worth of success against beat up and injured defenses while he came in with fresh legs. He might as well have just given AR his contract extension that he got 3 to 4 weeks into this year anyway with the understanding that Favre would have been the starting quarterback for the next year or two after he unretired and showed up at training camp. Teddy won't do anything noteworthy with that cap space cause he's so full of himself that that he refuses to sign real free agent talent and ends up overpaying mediocre players that show a half of season worth of upside. For the packer's sake I wish he would prove me wrong...  (Feb 15, 2009 | post #10)

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Five Most Overrated QB of All Time

i agree with your point eric. we don't know where the packers would be without favre because it simply has not happened. i'm just happy that the packers have quite a few of the puzzle pieces together now and that bodes well for the future of the team too. i'm just kind of old school and i still see quarterbacks as the center of successful offensive units, the field generals and so on. i'm glad that things are clicking now on both sides of the ball for the team and i'm just happy that favre stuck around to find success rather than watching a once great career get smeared by poor play, getting traded after many successful years in one city, etc as was the case with many great quarterbacks who "stuck around too long." joe montana fading off was not something that many want to remember for example. there isn't a long list of quarterbacks that remained productive in their golden years and i'm just happy that favre is having the year that he is having right now. he's adjusted to a new offensive approach and has changed from the "old gunslinger" (sorry to beat a dead horse) to a quarterback who is making fast and accurate reads to receivers in the best position to make a play. while i can't deny the level of support that any successful quarterback must have i don't think that there are a lot of qb's in the league that can match his level of play right now and i doubt even more that we have one of those players is riding the pine in green bay and i disagree that favre is overrated.  (Dec 11, 2007 | post #48)

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Grant proving he's steal of the season

grant's playing extremely well. mr. fundamental when it comes to running the football and finding the the holes and blocks. good article and let's just hope that grant stays productive and healthy (been burnt on injured rb's one too many times in green bay) and continues this run into the playoffs.  (Dec 11, 2007 | post #7)

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Five Most Overrated QB of All Time

you're right in that respect. who knows if we would be as good or better with rogers instead of favre. nobody does. the great thing is that with favre in green bay we don't have to ask that question. he's the man for the job and he continually is there to start for his team. he has been for quite a while too. there's no qb controversy or reciever's having to adjust to different timing and placement patterns midway through the season based on having to decide upon two different quarterbacks. the players around support him 100 percent and are willing to make the catches in traffic and over the middle of the field when he's throwing the football. to say that favre is overrated because of that or that rogers could be the better option because of that seems a bit ridiculous to me.  (Dec 11, 2007 | post #46)

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Five Most Overrated QB of All Time

following that logic we might as well stop keeping records/stats in any team sport because hey nobody has ever accomplished anything without the help of any other players. that way we can say that tom brady and joey harrington are on the same level because neither one has accomplished anything on their own. oh but lets keep track of "fumbles maybe" because i'm sure that there has not been any fumbles created by a blind side hit due to a miscommunication or missed block amongst offensive linemen. seriously though, did favre pillage your village and then crap in your cheerios? why do you need to hate on him all the time? i'd say he's had a pretty good run in the nfl... *cough* hall of fame first ballot... sorry it must be this cold i can't shake... and has done some pretty good things for our packers *cough* 3 mvp's, brought home a superbowl win, and filled a seat or two over the years. support your team and support your quarterback in their success because when he hangs it up, it could be a while until we see another player as "overrated " as him.  (Dec 11, 2007 | post #42)

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Good article.

seriously jerry... not in the top 3-5... maybe top 10. based on his play alone this year, name the other qb's you'd rather have starting right now besides brady and then manning, and possibly romo or rothlisberger if you want to really stretch it. actually, it's probably kind of a waste of time to try listing the other qb's because i would just disagre flat out with anybody besides the afore mentioned players. favre is having a phenomenal year and he's easily in the top five area of qbs playing in the nfl right now. personally speaking i'd rank him around 2 or 3 in the nfl this year based on key stats alone. (this does not include other key factors that make a premiere quarterback such as locker room influence, durability, veteran leadership amongst the youngest team in football, or the ability to learn and adjust to a new offense) you can find the stats on nfl.com or espn.com but hey, i'm a packer fan so i'm going to be biased, but in a worse case skeptic scenario, no worse than top 5 easy. i'm just saying i've been a proud packer fan my whole life and i've followed favre's career the entire way. he's having a great year and its hard to find many people that wouldn't rank them in the top 3 or 5 qb's based on the stats alone. so... you might as well enjoy and appreciate the kind of year that favre and the packers are having and give him the credit that he deserves for his efforts this year.  (Dec 10, 2007 | post #15)

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Stick a fork in them

can't we all just get along. i'm a life long packer fan and have been dating a die hard bears fan for four years now. yeah awkward. on top of that i live with her, another bears fan, and a lions fan. welcome to the u.p. i guess. during bears vs. packers vs. lions times of year, things can get a little muddled in this house, but here is what our little nfc north experiment has produced. 1. the bears have several issues this year namely injuries, coordinator changes, and a serious lack of quarterback. hard to be successful with all that going on. 2. the packers have aligned a mix of young, talented and hungry players into their veteran leaders corp. this leads to success. 3. the lions are proving to be the lions once again. i do honestly feel bad about that one. 4. purple is a stupid color and the vikings should be despised above all others. 5. everybody dogs on the nfc north, so lets not hate on one another's team too much just because they are finding success. lets take it to "superior " divisions such as the nfc east and afc west for looking down on teams like the packers, bears, and lions... not the vikings though, screw them, for too many years. even as a packer fan it wasn't like i cheered for the colts in the superbowl cause duh its the colts.... that'd be like cheering for the yankees just because they played insert your favorite baseball team here in the world series or playoffs. yeah, the bears beat us and probably will again if the packers aren't playing for anything at that point. there i said it. but seriously, the bears don't have a lot going on THIS YEAR. keep the faith, they'll be back possibly with mcnabb at the helm and quit hating on the packers success because with this young team, it could continue for a while. and on the other side, the bears could easily be right back in the mix next year.  (Dec 10, 2007 | post #10)

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Critics Silenced

good point about the play calling did not force favre into throwing the bad passes. i completely agree. i saw the open receivers that the four and five wide sets created, he just forced the issue and hurt his team as a result. that is never what you want out of your quarterback even if he is a first ballot hall of famer and my personal favorite player in sports. i think that if anything can be gained from the dallas game in regards to favre's play is that maybe it reinforced the idea that when he plays smart and makes the best pass available, he has a great bunch of receivers that can continue the play. that is what has lead to favre's best year in ages if not ever, and the packer's offensive success this year. he seemed to get back to the winning game plan against oakland and it worked out like it should. let's just hope that favre can keep his cool when it comes to true pressure situations such as the dallas game, aka the upcoming playoffs. finally, i would like to say that there is a time and place in the green bay offense to open up the field and spread out copious amounts of receivers, lets just not do it for an entire quarter when the opposing defense has already successfully adjusted to it picked two and knocked the starting qb out of the game. go packers!!!  (Dec 10, 2007 | post #39)

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