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Prove there's a god.

this is the stupidest thing anyone has ever heard. it's not possible to prove the existence of God/gods because the whole premise of their existence is faith that they exist.  (May 21, 2013 | post #625365)

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Why Iím no longer a Christian

Zeitgeist Refuted does not in anyway refute most of the assertions in the film Zeitgeist. Refuted film asserts the following: 1. Uses Bible quotes as Evidence (unacceptable source, b/c not outside source) 2. Claimed no resurrection story predates Jesus. This is absolutely false. Osiris / Isis story FAR predates and has resurrection component. 3. Paul is used as a source most often. Paul never even met Jesus and contradicts himself often 4. Zeitgeist film sources are not original, so therefore are unreliable. (If this is so, then there are almost no reliable sources on any subject in existence. Terrible argument.) 5. Uses Josephus as a source. (All of Josephus' works were edited and altered by later Christians.) 6. Christianity is a Myth (this is actually true. All religions are based on Myths. And what are Myths? FICTION) 7. Whole movie is based on the premise of a LITERAL interpretation of the Bible. (Most people acknowledge it was never meant to be taken literal) 8. Presents no evidence, only opinions presented as absolute truths. and all of this from only the first 30 minutes. I couldn't stand to watch anymore because it was just so poorly presented with no actual facts with evidence to back them up. P.S socci, you should learn to read. I didn't say Bill Maher was a documentary, I said "2. Religious w/ Bill Maher.  (Mar 12, 2013 | post #452276)

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Why Iím no longer a Christian

Well, my whole post wasn't just about Zeitgeist for one. Bill Maher hosted a documentary and I think that anyone with half a brain could understand what was meant by the statement. For another, I have a brain that has evolved past the need for religion. I'm not saying that religion/God/Jesus/Allah/Jehovah isn't good for some people, if it keeps them in line. I've studied religious history extensively. Every religion that has ever been documented, Greek, Roman, Etruscan, Zoroastrians, just to name a few believed that their gods were real, just like Christians/Muslims/Jews do today. Oh and let us not forget that Christianity is one of the newest religions in the World. I could go on for days about this but I just don't have the time. Your opinions are only that and although I haven't watched it yet, (i will) your movie isn't going to be able to refute some of the known facts presented in the documentary Zeitgeist. I will respond again after I watch your little movie though.  (Mar 12, 2013 | post #452265)

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Why Iím no longer a Christian

That's a little overbearing judgement call. They are lies and fallacies because you disagree with him. I have read Strobel along with many others and not everything they say is so easy to brush off as incorrect.  (Mar 8, 2013 | post #450860)

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Why Iím no longer a Christian

While most people in this area would never acknowledge this fact, here is a bit of history for you. Before I begin, I suggest that you get on NETFLIX and Watch the documentaries on there about religion: (1.Zeitgeist the Movie. 2. Religulous w/ Bill Maher, etc.) The fact I was referring to is that the Bible that we know today was written by men, just like any other who were supposedly under divine-inspiration . If an all perfect being guided these men who wrote the Bible, why is it that there are two very different Gods in the Old and New Testaments, and why all the multiple contradictions. (i.e.OT: an eye for an eye NT: turn the other cheek, etc.) Another fact that most people aren't aware of or refuse to acknowledge is that the modern King James Version of the Bible and the Catholic Bible are both incomplete, with many of the books missing (see Nag Hammadi Texts, Dead Sea Scrolls). I first began to question the legitimacy of all religions when I started reading into the history of these matters. After over 8 years of research, I have concluded that mono-theistic (one God) religions that dominate the world today are designed to make the largest part of the population compliant with and accepting of a single leader (i.e an emperor, king, or president) and their government philosophies. Another strange thing that I've found is that most christians believe that the USA was founded as a Christian nation by Christians. Unfortunately, history says otherwise. Many of the founders (Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and many others) were not Christians privately. George Washington wrote in a private letter that (paraphrasing) 'Christianity is good for the army and poor people' because it gives hope to the poor and helps army men be less afraid of death.' Washington also didn't enjoy attending church and spent most Sundays at his home drinking alcohol and even complained when 'forced' to go to church. Jefferson had a somewhat different view, he believed in God, but not Jesus as the son of God. Using a razor blade, he removed all references of miracles from his copy of the Bible. The fact is, monotheistic religions are designed as a means of controlling the populace. Another issue most people who claim one of the Big 3 (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) is the horrific acts of intolerance and violence against members of other religions, especially each other. Again, all that is needed is a knowledge of history to understand what I'm talking about. In fact, the rise of Christianity led to one of the most ignorant periods of intellectual decline in recorded history: The Dark Ages / Inquisition. Even today, many people do crazy things in the name of God. That is not to say that all Christians, Muslims or Jews are bad. In fact many of them are decent and caring people. Most all of my family is Christian. However, religion requires two things from its followers that I cannot abide. 1. Faith- asking someone to blindly believe whole-heartedly in divine entities without any type of proof other than a 'feeling'. 2. Not question anything that is considered dogmatic. This just doesn't work for me. it never has. I knew from early in my childhood that religion was not for me. I was often forced to go to church when I didn't want to go. I admit, I went sometimes because I wanted to, but only because I was searching for something that turned out not to be there. I too was told I should feel a great change in me after accepting Jesus. I've probably asked to be saved at least 100 times, never once feeling any change nor noticing any difference in my daily life.  (Mar 8, 2013 | post #450859)