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Christian by Nature and Nurture "Two, many of the things I was nurtured to believe I had to let go...I had to move beyond." http://www.huffing tonpost.com/steve- mcswain/christian- i-am-a-christia_b_ 10635938.html?utm_ source=Alert-blogg er&utm_medium= email&utm_camp aign=Email%2BNotif ications Too much of what I have researched discredits the existence of a G-d. I am speaking about the Bible and theology. Hence I no longer believe in a G-d and I wonder why Tillich could continue to believe in a G-d. None the less, Tillich presented to me far greater understanding of "The History of Christian Thought" that began my journey to reject G-d." This was not Tillich's intention as it was his vocation to present the theology of a "New Being." I get his theology but I reject the Christian G-d and any G-d. At the very least, I have a clear mind as the creation of our universe. I have a clear understanding of what is common amongst all humans. I can relate to what the Bible says but I can also see that Christianity misinterprets the Bible and misrepresents their Bible. I also can, admittedly, state that I do not know what is the truth. No more than any body that believes in G-d can know such a G-d. Hence, G-d is just man's perception of their personal G-d.  (Jun 27, 2016 | post #39977)

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No disrespect. LOL. So I have to ask, Why are you with this forum? No, it is not fun playing with Tillichian gloves. It is a whole discipline that requires using reason to understand his theology. Something I began developing as I studied the Bible.  (Jun 27, 2016 | post #39976)

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I could possibly find what you have to say of great value but then I not heard anything of value coming from your belief system, whatever that may be, as it still remains a mystery to me. Given that this forum, "Homosexualit y and the Bible," is in regards to the Christian Bible, assuming that "Bible" is in reference to the Christian Bible, all of Christian thought is also fair game. If I misrepresent Christian thought I expect someone to correct me. Otherwise, what I have to say is valid using the OT, NT and Christian thought coming out of 2000 years since Yeshua. You may disagree with such thought but such thought is still valid in this discussion. Being divine has nothing to do with theology. Being divine is a human conception. Yeshua becomes Christ only because his apostles, disciples moved him towards becoming divine in human eyes. The Council of Nicaea establishes his divinity. Everything changes 300 years after Jesus' death. Tillich refers to "Jesus as the Christ" and not "Jesus Christ."  (Jun 27, 2016 | post #39975)

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Homosexuality and the Bible

I can understand how you look at Christianity but I don't have to capitulate to your belief. Since I don't believe in a G-d. I am no longer challenged by yours or anybody's else's belief in a G-d. What you call fallacies, I call logic although, based on Christian thought from a little before 300 AD through today's Christian thinking. You seem to reject all modern Christian thinking, whether it is fundamental, orthodox or existential theology. There is no word in the ancient Hebrew language that means, homosexuality. Any reference by modern Christianity concerning homosexuality in the Bible is a misrepresentation of Scripture and history.  (Jun 25, 2016 | post #39957)

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Explain please.  (Jun 24, 2016 | post #39954)

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Are you saying, your way or no way?  (Jun 24, 2016 | post #39953)

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Homosexuality and the Bible

You did not specify, "the point under debate." Given, "Homosexualit y and the Bible," is under debate, homosexuality is is not a word in the Bible.  (Jun 24, 2016 | post #39952)

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Homosexuality and the Bible

And your point is? Begging the question? What do you think that question is? "Even the use of "christ, " should you have capitalized "christ? " Your point is not clear with the usage of "christ. " I would say as Tillich says, "Jesus as the Christ." "christ, " speaks of a christ as with Judaism's expectation for a christ. The usage of Christ speaks towards a G-d for Christianity. Please be more clear as to what you are saying.  (Jun 23, 2016 | post #39947)

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There is no G-d.  (Jun 23, 2016 | post #39946)

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True, one cannot know anything but, one can philosophy what can be understood from an existential point of view. After all, we are human in existence. I tend to think that you disregard philosophy when comprehending Scripture. "The key to understanding TillichÂ’s theology is what he calls the "method of correlation." It is an approach that correlates insights from Christian revelation with the issues raised by existential, psychological, and philosophical analysis.[2]" https://en.wikiped ia.org/wiki/Paul_T illich I tend to look towards the OT to understand the NT but I look towards Tillich's Systematic Theology to understand theology. Hence, understanding Christianity is to understand what brought Christianity to where it is and not what the NT says. Christianity is what it is (tens of thousands of denominations all with their own take on the Gospel of Jesus Christ) because of differing opinions. I liken these opinions to a misinterpretation of Scripture and this becomes a misrepresentation of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Christianity is, after all, man's idea of a G-d that cannot be known by a finite being. My studies of the Bible and Christianity has lead me to question much of what Christianity, more to the point, what Christendom teaches, today. It is evident after 2000 years of Christian thought. Logically, the facts do not support what Christendom supports. The Christian message has falsely misrepresented (a tautology), for instance, "Homosexualit y and the Bible." The worst of such a statement falls within a misrepresentation of what the basic definition of sin was.  (Jun 22, 2016 | post #39942)

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I am familiar with Symbolic Logic.  (Jun 22, 2016 | post #39938)

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I have an idea to what you might be referring as to Tillich falling into "Gorgian Fallacy," but I need you to explain just what that fallacy is that Tillich falls into.  (Jun 21, 2016 | post #39935)

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Sigh, a quick search gave me nothing regarding, "Gorgian Fallacy". I don't understand what you are talking about except to say that "Gorgian Fallacy" must have something to do with what has been the focus on philosophy from past Belles Echoes posts.  (Jun 21, 2016 | post #39930)

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No wonder I had trouble with Belles Echoes (the group.)  (Jun 21, 2016 | post #39929)