Comments
1,856
Joined
Jun 11, 2007
Multiyear Arctic ice is effectively gone: expert
Where did you learn economics? Businesses ALWAYS pass along their cost of doing business on to the clients, otherwise they would go out of business. You pay those costs in the final price you pay for any product. Profit margin is the difference between costs of doing business and the final price that you pay for any product - whether it is the food you buy in a restaurant or grocery store or the price you pay for your house or car or even a pack of gum. (Wednesday Nov 4 | post #82)
More AGW alarmist crap for the run-up to the propaganda production at Copenhagen [and timed precisely for that reason alone]. However, this piece is directly contradicted by the facts - something of which the AGW alarmists are ignorant. Sea level rise has been essentially flat for the last almost 4 years as per this graph from the Jason satellite: http://wattsupwith that.files.wordpre ss.com/2009/04/uc_ seallevel_2009r2.p ng Prior to the latest period, sea level rise during the 20th century has varied from about 3-3.5 mm per year - i.e. no increase in sea level rise. Meanwhile, the tidal gauges in the NC area also directly contradict the claims of an accelerated sea level rise: http://wattsupwith that.files.wordpre ss.com/2009/10/alb emarle_sea_level_p lot.png and http://wattsupwith that.files.wordpre ss.com/2009/10/alb emarle_35n76w_sea_ level_plot.png When are you lemmings who have swallowed every alarmist prediction of future catastrophe going to admit that no one has any idea and these speculations are based on absolutely nothing? (Tuesday Nov 3 | post #2)
Kilimanjaro ice is melting fast. Global warming it here and real.
Frank, do you have a reading comprehension problem as well as being bipolar? I was agreeing with you that deforestation, urban heat islands and other land use changes are causing the vast majority of the warming trends [as well as changes in precipitation patterns] we are seeing in the land-based temperature records. Cities are known to change precipitation patterns hundreds of miles away from the cities themselves as well as warming a large area surrounding the cities and still considered rural [40-50 miles away]. This puts the question to what the actual temperature trends are when a town as small as 5000 people generates a noticeable heat island effect - without blaming any increase in CO2 levels. It is increasingly doubtful that CO2 increases are actually causing any substantial amount of the warming that we have seen. How can we blame man's CO2 emissions and curtail people's lives through more taxation when we can't even attribute the current warming to the proper cause? We are better to concentrate our resources on reforestation and other greening projects while trying to find ways to minimize the UHI effect [and shifting to alternative fuel sources when economically feasible] rather than to piss away our money on the CO2 AGW bogeyman with little to no reduction in warming to show for the effort and vast expense. (Tuesday Nov 3 | post #23)
Kilimanjaro ice is melting fast. Global warming it here and real.
Frank, you're a little confused. UHI warming and warming from other land use changes have nothing to do with any warming due to the vastly overstated CO2 effect. We would be better off concentrating on the effects of land use and UHI rather than wasting money and energy on the chimera of lowering CO2 levels. Here's the latest research from Purdue U on the warming effect of land use changes: A study by researchers from Purdue University and the universities of Colorado and Maryland concluded that greener land cover contributes to cooler temperatures, and almost any other change leads to warmer temperatures. The study, published on line and set to appear in the Royal Meteorological Society’s International Journal of Climatology later this year, is further evidence that land use should be better incorporated into computer models projecting future climate conditions, said Purdue doctoral student Souleymane Fall, the article’s lead author. “What we highlight here is that a significant trend, particularly the warming trend in terms of temperatures, can also be partially explained by land-use change,” said Dev Niyogi, a Purdue earth and atmospheric sciences and agronomy professor, and the Indiana state climatologist. He is the study’s corresponding author. Among the study’s findings: * In general, the greener the land cover, the cooler is surface temperature. * Conversion to agriculture results in cooling, while conversion from agriculture generally results in warming. * Deforestation generally results in warming, with the exception of a shift from forest to agriculture. No clear picture emerged from the impact of planting or seeding new forests. * Urbanization and conversion to bare soils have the largest warming impacts. In general, land use conversion often results in more warming than cooling. (Tuesday Nov 3 | post #14)
Kilimanjaro ice is melting fast. Global warming it here and real.
This is just more recycled garbage from the AGW alarmists who are injecting as many headlines as possible before the propaganda production in Copenhagen. The loss of ice on Kilimanjaro has been linked in numerous stories to less precipitation caused by the deforestation of the mountain's slopes and a shift in the winds from the Indian Ocean. None of this ice loss is linked to man-made global warming - especially when most of the ice loss is due to sublimation, not warming. Meanwhile, the 'consensus' continues to shrink. Over 160 physicists have written a letter to the American Physical Society contesting the APS 'official' position on AGW. http://www.openlet ter-globalwarming. info/Site/open_let ter.html (Monday Nov 2 | post #9)
Wind Farm May Violate Endangered Species Act
Nah, I live in Florida and see Turkey Vultures all the time. They winter in South Florida. A favorite roosting spot is on top of the Federal Courthouse in downtown Miami [roosting with the legal world's vultures - birds of a feather and all that rot]. Besides, I've raised chickens and have seen what they can do to a sick or outcast bird. (Thursday Oct 15 | post #991)
Wind Farm May Violate Endangered Species Act
I'd venture that the other chickens killed it and the Turkey Vulture was just having it's normal carrion breakfast. [New World vultures have weak, chicken-like feet, which are suitable for running on the ground. These vultures cannot lift or carry food with their feet. They can only step on their food to hold it in place while eating. Similarly, the New World vultures have weaker, thinner beaks, unlike the strong beaks of their Old World counterparts.] (Thursday Oct 15 | post #987)
Govt-Funded Research Unit Destroyed Original Climate Data
Clueless. The CRU data has been manipulated and is not the original data. They have admitted that they no longer have the original data. That is what this article is about. The data is now gone forever from the ONLY really long term temperature data set - the one from which all of the other non-satellite data sets are based. No one now has access to the original raw data to do any kind of re-analysis. Now we must rely solely on the accuracy of the existing, already massaged and manipulated, data sets. No one can determine whether any mistakes may have been made in determining that temperature series nor can they reconstruct any methodologies used in determining that temperature series. Only the foolish blindly trust what they are told by others. The rest of us believe in the maxim "trust, but verify." If you can't verify the data, why should you trust it and any policies promulgated on that basis? (Oct 12, 2009 | post #5)
Govt-Funded Research Unit Destroyed Original Climate Data
From the article: [In mid-August the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (CRU) disclosed that it had destroyed the raw data for its global surface temperature data set because of an alleged lack of storage space. The CRU data have been the basis for several of the major international studies that claim we face a global warming crisis. CRU’s destruction of data, however, severely undercuts the credibility of those studies.] What better way to prevent the revelation of an attempt to perpetrate a scam than to destroy any original data that may contradict your claims at some point of future re-analysis? The AGW proponents' credibility is as good as that of the Nobel Peace Prize committee. (Oct 11, 2009 | post #1)
Are wind farms a health risk? US scientist identifies 'wind tur...
Now, WHY should I pay for Your health insurance just because You don't want to pay for it anymore? That is what you are advocating. How can that be right, or fair, in anyone's mind? (Oct 7, 2009 | post #11)
Wind Farm May Violate Endangered Species Act
You are totally clueless concerning CO2 toxicity. People regularly work in greenhouses where CO2 levels have been enhanced to 1000 ppm (optimal growth level for most of our food plants and flowers and almost 3 times the current level) with absolutely no ill effects. CO2 levels in an enclosed office environment can easily reach 1000 ppm. OSHA doesn't even regulate exposure levels below 2%. In fact, the OSHA personal exposure limit is 5000 ppm - this is a level regularly encountered in submarines. The greatest growth of life on Earth occurred when CO2 levels were between 2000 and 3000 ppm during the Jurassic, Triassic and Cretaceous periods when the giant dinosaurs ruled the Earth. Here's a graph of CO2 levels for the last 500 million years. http://www.pnas.or g/content/99/7/416 7/F4.expansion.htm l Look at the lower right of the graph. That's where CO2 levels are currently. The Earth is actually near the lowest CO2 levels in the Earth's history. CO2 levels have mostly decreased for the last 175 Million years. Prior to that point they appear to have fluctuated from about two to four times modern levels with a dominant period of about 100 Million years. We have a very long way to go before even beginning to consider our current CO2 levels as toxic. (Oct 2, 2009 | post #602)
Quitting the US Chamber of Commerce Newest Eco-Fad?
Hmmm, could it be that these utility companies would receive greater profits from increased electric rates, etc. if this legislation passes? No wonder that they would support it - they receive a share of the benefits - it doesn't cost them anything and would push future generation in their direction [WITH more government subsidies]. It's a no lose scenario for them. From the article: The nuclear industry could benefit from legislation that raises fossil fuel costs, and the industry's interests are expected to be a key topic in the Senate debate. Exelon currently operates 17 nuclear reactors in the Midwest and in mid-Atlantic states. The company also uses fossil fuels, hydropower and renewable energy to generate electricity. (Sep 29, 2009 | post #1)
Wind Farm May Violate Endangered Species Act
All of your spills from tankers is dwarfed by the amount of oil which comes from NATURAL oil seeps just in the Gulf of Mexico each year. The amount of oil into the environment worldwide from these natural seeps is staggering. http://www.science daily.com/releases /2000/01/000127082 228.htm Twice an Exxon Valdez spill worth of oil seeps into the Gulf of Mexico every year, according to a new study that will be presented January 27, 2000 at the Ocean Sciences Meeting in San Antonio, Texas. But the oil isn't destroying habitats or wiping out ocean life. The ooze is a natural phenomena that's been going on for many thousands of years, according to Roger Mitchell, Vice President of Program Development at the Earth Satellite Corporation (EarthSat) in Rockville Md. "The wildlife have adapted and evolved and have no problem dealing with the oil," he said. Using a technique they developed in the early 1990s to help explore for oil in the deep ocean, Earth Satellite Corporation scientists found that there are over 600 different areas where oil oozes from rocks underlying the Gulf of Mexico. The oil bubbles up from a cracks in ocean bottom sediments and spreads out with the wind to an to an area covering about 4 square miles. "The number is twice the Exxon Valdez's spill per year, and that's a conservative estimate," said Mitchell. (Sep 27, 2009 | post #510)
Imperial man shoots himself in the head while teaching firearm ...
With a name like Looney what else could you expect? 8^] My vote for this years Darwin Award winner. (Sep 23, 2009 | post #1)
No one can make a truly accurate assessment of the current state of the science without seeing research from both sides of the debate that is occurring in the science community.
Headline:
The Truth Will Set You Free
Hometown:
Gainesville, FL
Read My Forum Posts Because:
you want to read the truth the media won't tell
I'm Listening To:
Disturbed
Read This Book:
The Quest for Cosmic Justice