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Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

Well no one else seems to be giving it even the lip service those organizations are doing. Is it possible, yes. But is it probable, No, I don't believe it is. I realize that I am stating only my opinion, but since science doesn't use the supernatural as an explanation, I think the probability is vanishing small. That's what I was addressing, the probability. I don't think any actual science group will do it, mainly because it's not something I think they would expend resources toward. It's sort of like people who believe in ghosts. Real scientists pay this little attention. Before they will, proponents will have to show the evidence, actual scientific evidence in all that it means. Without them taking that step, most scientists will ignore it. The same way they ignore tarot cards, psychics, and intelligent design. The only time they address issues like these is when those proponents make unsupported statements and claims. For example the James Randi and his debunking psychics and biologists like Ken Miller who debunk ID.  (7 hrs ago | post #177502)

Evolution Debate

Evolution Theory Facing Crisis

It's bad when someone posts something so nonsensical, in the English context of the word. It's really bad when I get to correct them because English is my second language, I'm from Brooklyn :-) If I have to correct someone's English, you know it was really bad.  (7 hrs ago | post #226)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

So why aren't they? There is the Discovery Institute who made their religious feelings well known (Wedge Strategy) and even opened their own 'lab' called the Biologic Institute, and yet haven't seemed to attempt any research at all. Or you get AiG and the Creation 'Museum which claims all sorts of science, yet again has yet to produce anything that isn't filled with utter and complete nonsense. At the same time they, and similar groups attack science, science education using tactics that their own religion considers sinful. I don't think any deity has anything to fear from science, but I think we all have to fear theocrats who claim to know God's will and is willing to violate their own beliefs to force them on the rest of us.  (Yesterday | post #177472)

Evolution Debate

It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution d...

Meant 'pick one', damned autocorrect :-)  (Sunday | post #138754)

Evolution Debate

It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution d...

Then lt one, that would be a start. Quite dodging. Support your assertions. We've been waiting patently.  (Sunday | post #138753)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

I think I would be much more interested in the reaction from the various religious groups if science managed to do just that. If you think they can rationalize today, imagine the feeding frenzy at that point! :-) I do not believe that science will ever address the concept of a deity. Think about it, how can science even address the issue of the supernatural? I think the only way to support the existence of a deity is by having actual evidence of one. So far any 'evidence' has been nothing more than conjecture and wishful thinking. Think about the comments here on these evolution forums. Some theists claims to have proof of the Global Flood, but never seems to get around to revealing it. Adam and Eve, same thing. The list goes on. Many also claim proof of Creationism, yet all they seem to be able to try and tear at evolutionary theory and fail miserably. What I think will continue to happen is the theists will continue to box the idea of a deity in and every claim they make for a deity's action will be revealed as not having needed a deity at all. Consider that at one time everything was said to have been at the will of one capricious deity or another and since then we have very methodically (pun intended) supported that these things do not need a deity at all. Therefore the box will get smaller and smaller as they run out of things to try and inject a deity into. As they get more frantic, the rationalizations will fly hot and heavy and very entertaining for the rest of us.  (Sunday | post #177470)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

Well after reading your name calling and his lame attempts at insulting people, you both need help in that area. It's only a suggestion, because after all, if you are going to do something, you should try and do it well.  (Saturday | post #177418)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

As a 20 year veteran of the US Armed Forces, I would like to remind you of a couple of things: First, 'Under God' was added to the Pledge in 1954. Which means the majority of the people who have fought and died for this nation did so BEFORE the Pledge included that statement. You might bother to read up on a subject before attempting to use it to prop up your beliefs. Second, a philosophical concept of God still has no place in science class. Leave it in Philosophy, Theology, or even Marketing -- since it's been very successful over the years in that arena. Third, this Nation was not formed as a Christian Nation, you might read up on Thomas Jefferson a bit to grasp that reality. Finally, the power of the US Government doesn't come from the will of any particular deity. Many have fought and died because we are one nation! The 'Under God' part is based on your personal belief system. We could spend years discussing what God . . . but you've made your particular belief set perfectly clear. One of the many errors you seem to keep committing is failing to grasp that I, and many in here are not anti-God. We are anti you attempt to hijack science and our children's education and forcing your narrow version onto anyone who fails to agree with you. What we are also against is your tactics of lies and misrepresentation to get your particular narrow belief set in the science classroom. Tactics such as legislation calling for academic freedom that has nothing to do with academic freedom, 'teach the controversy', Evolution is ONLY a theory . . . these tactics are reprehensible and many times I hope you get your wish to meet Jesus and hear what he has to say about your behavior.  (Saturday | post #177417)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

Yet another dodge. Have you anything of substance to say? Or shall we just wait for the next rant and rave. Who is your target now? You've run out of things to say to me. Everyone realizes it when you are down to such pithy little cracks. What's next in the playbook? Self-congratulatio ns, I think is next. Don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back.. You are dismissed.  (Saturday | post #177410)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

Actually I addressed the issue here in this thread a very long time ago. I was under the impression you knew how to read. So who do you have read the screens for you? Must be a relative, because anyone would demand a salary. So translating your comments from your typical Creationist dodge, it means no, you haven't and you more than likely never bothered to know what this thread was about in the first place. Next time, tell your reader to read ALL the words and explain the big ones. While you are at it, ask for lessons in how to insult people, because you aren't very good at it. Bet you spend a long time in the Confessional each week.  (Saturday | post #177408)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

Normally this thread is about more about science, but since you are ill equipped to join such a conversation, we have to find our diversions where we can. Yes, that means we are laughing at you. Now a question for you, do you have the slightly clue what this specific thread in the evolution forum is about? I don't believe you ever address that specific issue. You just jumped right in with religious apologetics and poorly researched, science-ish terminology that you demonstrated clearly that you do not understand. So keep commenting, we enjoy it.  (Saturday Aug 30 | post #177405)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

And here we have a marvelous example of Creationist Tactic #13. When faced with the possibility of being unable, or unwilling, to address something that casts doubts on your narrow belief set, accuse the person asking of being too stupid to understand. You might recall Wild Bill Dembski uses that tactic whenever anyone cannot understand the mathematics of his 'specific complexity detector', or course his comment was aimed more broadly at the entire community of mathematicians, while this one is more limited in scope. Of course, being a Creationist, they not only think this is a viable tactic, but they frequently use terminology they would never use face to face. They try and hide in the supposed anonymity of the Internet. Such an example of 'Christian Creationist' behavior does more damage to their religious sect than anything I could possibly do. But then again, they won't realize that either.  (Saturday Aug 30 | post #177404)

Evolution Debate

Evolution Theory Facing Crisis

This makes no sense at all. Care to try again? You might start with my comment again. Other than that, maybe a Biology 101?  (Saturday Aug 30 | post #212)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

He must have missed me!  (Friday Aug 29 | post #177388)

Evolution Debate

Evolution vs. Creation

Do you have any evidence of your contention?  (Friday Aug 29 | post #121362)

Q & A with TedHOhio

Headline:

I am evolving as fast as I can

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Brooklyn, in Dayton OH now

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Oregon Disrict

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The Dock, The Schuster Center, The Museum Center, Books and Co, Dayton Dragons baseball, Dublin Pub, NY Mets and NY Giants when they play local teams

I Belong To:

No one, but being married my wife might disagree with that remark :-)

When I'm Not on Topix:

I am usually working, teaching, playing with my granddaughter or annoying my wife.

Read My Forum Posts Because:

They are honest!

I'm Listening To:

Other Side of Me, Linda Eder

Read This Book:

Why Darwin Matters: The Case Againsts intelligent Design by Michael Shermer

Favorite Things:

Family, Friends, Football, and Food -- the 4-F's of life :-)

On My Mind:

People and politicians who can’t separate religion from science. I expect it of politicians who pander to anyone with $, but I expect more of people

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http://sciencestandards.blogspot.com

I Believe In:

Regardless of what you believe when it comes to the exclusivity of Science and Spirituality, I believe anything other than science should never be taught in science class. Creationism is not science, it is a religious belief. Intelligent Design is also not science for all its attempt to appear based on actual science. I have no issue teaching either one in a Philosophy, Sociology, or even Comparative Religion classes, but not science!