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Should evolution be taught in high school?

He makes all the errors he keeps accusing us of doing. It doesn't matter to him how he's treated, he responds with disdain to anyone who refuses to acknowledge his 'genius'. The problem, which he will never recognize, is he has done nothing to deserve the consideration and can't seem to accept that. So once someone questions him, he reacts in a way that will cut-off any useful communication and then he self-justifies it by blaming the person who dared question his 'expertise'.  (12 hrs ago | post #178745)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

Best bet is to ignore him and just let him post . . . anyone reading this will figure out quick that he's clueless and simply out for attention, especially negative attention. In all honesty, even if he said something intelligent, he won't engage in any real discussion. I don't think he has the tools to do so.  (14 hrs ago | post #178730)

Evolution Debate

It's the Darwin crowd that lacks the facts in evolution d...

I think your logic is way off on this one. First error is equating the two arguments. You make it sound that science is trying to prove a negative, which I would agree with you is impossible. But is that the case here? You are ignoring the positive evidence. For example existing civilizations at the time that show a continuity that demonstrates there was no global flood. There should be a common point where the civilizations should have been wiped out, they do not. How do creationists explain it? Most don't. Some claim that Noah and his family repopulated the Earth and the civilizations started up again shortly after the flood. Again, no evidence of any sort of gap. How about Dendrochronology? We have fully dated chronologies dating back 11.000 years. In other words many examples going back through when the flood was supposed to have happened. Such a flood would again cause significant evidence and even easily visible evidence, but the unbroken chains of evidence say once again . . . no global flood in the past 11,000 years. How do Creationist explain it? Mostly with complaints about the dating methodologies, complaints with no supporting evidence. There is a great deal of positive evidence that demonstrate that there was no Noacian flood 4500 years ago. You might check out some of the actual evidence instead of trying to use poor logic and equate the two arguments. Science isn't trying to prove a negative, that the flood never happened. Science has plenty of positive proof that make the Flood nothing more than a story.  (22 hrs ago | post #139541)

Evolution Debate

New review critical of "Origins"

Reading your comment was quit unpleasant. If you are going to quote me, please try and do it accurately. You said MY comment wasThat isn't what I said. The entire quote, which is needed to understand the context isIt was YOUR comment that said the human population should have . . . and so on. I was disagreeing with you for a very simple reason, the evidence doesn't support it. You said so yourself, where are all the fossils of deformed creatures? They do not exist because, to put it more bluntly since subtlety didn't work, you are wrong. Evolution does not do what you think it does. You are in error. I made a couple of suggestions for you to learn something and correct your misconceptions, but you apparently are already convinced you are correct and won't accept any correction. To bad, you seemed willing and interested in learning. I do not believe you have actually researched any science concerning evolution. You are repeating nonsense and you refuse to realize it. Guess now we know what you are really interested in, don't we? By the way, what you did to my comment is called 'Quote-mining' and is a prime example of a reprehensible tactic used often by Creationists. Gee, Creationist arguments against evolution and Creationist tactics . . . Folks, is it too early to call a Poe?  (Friday | post #19)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

Thank you! I've never directly interacted with someone with Tourette's, so I appreciate the education. See, Jimmie, when you mess something up, that's how you handle it . . . as an adult.  (Friday Sep 19 | post #178642)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

As I said, an attack of verbal diarrhea (VD). Changed his name and now just types away. Sorta like some form of Tourette's Syndrome, only with fewer curse words. I certainly see the desperation in his posts, even without reading most of them.  (Friday Sep 19 | post #178619)

Evolution Debate

New review critical of "Origins"

I don't think I've run into him before. As for how effective it is, we'll see. He's got to take the next step and realize that what he thinks he knows isn't evolution, but misconceptions about evolution. If he refuses to let those misconceptions go . . . well that's a different issue, isn't it?  (Thursday Sep 18 | post #16)

Evolution Debate

New review critical of "Origins"

The X-Men come in as an example of a common misconception about evolution. Another way of looking at it is that you seem to expect evolution to produce organisms that are more like the Creature from the Black Lagoon. That's not evolution, that's science fictionSo by your standard, the present human population should have an incredibly high percentage of deformed children each generation. You really need to do more research and I would suggest picking your sites better. You are addressing questions covered in any decent Biology 101 class. You might try the PBS evolution site or Talk Origns. You can Google for the linkYou are in error. You think evolution has stopped and no new life forms are occurring? Human beings are still evolving. In fact most evolutionary biologists agree that evolution is actually speeding up in the last 100 years due to more and more genetic exchange between previously geographically isolated groups. You really need to do more homework on the suibject. Any site that told you evolution wasn't happening is not a reliable science siteNot true, massive overstatement of what the evidence shows occurred. Tetrapods, four-limbed vetebrates, evolved from the lobe-finned fishes about 395 million years ago. The 'blue-print' as you want to say was formed well before there were animals on land. I would suggest some research on the Devonian PeriodNo, common ancestry answers that question quite easilyAs I said, you are basing that conclusion on faulty data. Please really study up. You have many misconceptions. It leads me to believe your sources of information are not sites or documents that specializing in actual science. Asking question is half of the battle for acquiring knowledge. Now you need to take the next step and correct your misconceptions with the actual evidence.  (Thursday Sep 18 | post #13)

Evolution Debate

New review critical of "Origins"

Not a bad question, and far from a simple question . . . but I think you are relying too much on assumptions than factual evidence. You have, on average, 150-200 mutations different from your parents. I say on average because without a genetic analysis, the exact number cannot be determined. But with 150-200 mutations, aren't you a complete organism? You are assuming that a mutation is nearly always detrimental, but I think you need to put a broader perspective on evolution. Old saying in Biology, 'Individuals mutate, but Populations evolve." Within a population the members aren't homogeneously identical. Like you aren't a clone of your parents, but an amalgamation of the two with mutations mixed in. Populations consists of a variety. Mutations are classified as benign, detrimental, or beneficial . . . in relations to survival and/or reproductive opportunity. That doesn't mean a detrimental mutation cannot be passed on to children, but that the likelihood of a mutation increasing in frequency within a population (evolution) is lower. A beneficial mutation, again in terms of survival and reproductive opportunity, is one that will see an increase in frequency within a population. DO you see the difference between mutation and evolution? That's a start, but there is much more going on. Since you aren't diseased and deformed, you should now better get a glimpse why your question isn't based on facts, but rather a poor understanding of evolution. We have fossils that trace the lineage of many species, from their earliest appearance in the fossil record to their modern-day descendents. We can trace even further back and see the progression of certain physical structures, like shoulder and elbow joints, and trace that forward to modern-day organisms. Each creature was a complete organism, not a deformed copy that dies off quickly. Often critics of evolution try and use a 'X-Men' type mutation, trying to make people believe that drastic changes are needed and that they have to often result in death, lots and lots of death. But the changes from one generation to the next are small. When the changes are massive, like birth defects, that individual rarely reaches the age to have offspring, so that mutation rarely factors into the population frequency as a whole. It's when when you look at the timeline and you see the small changes accumulating, as referenced in the fossil record, does the picture get clearer. Hope this helped answer your question. It's far from a complete answer, but it might get you started if you are interested in going further in understanding evolution.,  (Thursday Sep 18 | post #11)

Evolution Debate

New review critical of "Origins"

Postnote, Wingnut, Diehard . . . sockpuppetry at it's finest. Think we are done here.  (Thursday Sep 18 | post #8)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

I predicted he would run away from this name, I wasn't expecting sock-puppetry, but I guess that makes as much sense as anything else jimmie's done. I expect next he'll try and flood this forum to drive other people out. Typical bullying behavior from him.  (Thursday Sep 18 | post #178602)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

There you go again, Chim, trying to confuse jimmie with facts!  (Thursday Sep 18 | post #178600)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

So jimmie is doing it again, accusing others of using a tactic that he himself used. I had one poster use my name a couple of times. You guys shut him down pretty quick. It was a while back, the fact it wasn't a registered account was a dead giveaway!  (Thursday Sep 18 | post #178599)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

LOL, do you really expect an answer from jimmie? He'll keep up wild diatribes because intelligent discourse is well beyond his capabilities. He's sounding quite desperate, isn't he? I only read one of his latest bouts of verbal diarrhea and couldn't stop laughing at him. He's done. Figure he'll change names again and try in another forum. Maybe it'll be anti-abortion . . . I'm sure he considers himself an expert on the subject. Or he might turn into a kabbie and claim expertise on climate change and global floods. Either way, no one will take him seriously . . . not that we ever did.  (Wednesday Sep 17 | post #178560)

Evolution Debate

Should evolution be taught in high school?

Careful, once you catch jimmie in a lie and make everyone aware of it, he not only refuses to acknowledge it, but he runs away. I would say he ran away like a little girl, but that would insult little girls. I know a couple of 10 year old girls who would never back down so easily and who are also brave enough to accept criticism when they screwed up. But then neither of them lie out of habit and choice, so I doubt that would get busted in the same way.  (Wednesday Sep 17 | post #178544)

Q & A with TedHOhio

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I am evolving as fast as I can

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Brooklyn, in Dayton OH now

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No one, but being married my wife might disagree with that remark :-)

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I am usually working, teaching, playing with my granddaughter or annoying my wife.

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They are honest!

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Other Side of Me, Linda Eder

Read This Book:

Why Darwin Matters: The Case Againsts intelligent Design by Michael Shermer

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Family, Friends, Football, and Food -- the 4-F's of life :-)

On My Mind:

People and politicians who can’t separate religion from science. I expect it of politicians who pander to anyone with $, but I expect more of people

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http://sciencestandards.blogspot.com

I Believe In:

Regardless of what you believe when it comes to the exclusivity of Science and Spirituality, I believe anything other than science should never be taught in science class. Creationism is not science, it is a religious belief. Intelligent Design is also not science for all its attempt to appear based on actual science. I have no issue teaching either one in a Philosophy, Sociology, or even Comparative Religion classes, but not science!