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South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Johnson's performance putting pressure on Marlins to sign...

It has nothing to do with attendance. Between radio/tv revenue, both national and local and revenue sharing the Marlins bring in between 70 and 80 million before they sell a ticket. Attendance is a bonus. Yes they don't get the other revenues from the ballpark that other teams do but other teams don't come close to having the luxary tax revenue the Marlins do. The Marlins ticket prices are some of the most inexpensive in baseball. They do a great job in bringing their fans and players together at functions and events. As a season ticket holder I couldn't be happier with the seats and even the product when you take into consideration the lack of spending made by the ownership. Would I like the ballpark full every night, sure. But there is a sense of intimacy with the small crowds and actually the baseball experience of just watching how the game is played is better with fewer people in the park. There are less drunken jerks around and you get to know the people in your section better. To me the people attending games are the hard core true baseball fans. The conversations are better. The people more knowledgable. As far as keeping JJ and Uggla, with the guys in the minor league system I doubt Uglla makes ot through this year unless they continue to stay as close as five games. They gave Hanley the contract, they should give it to JJ. As far as Pavano and Willis are concerned, everyone has opinions and wants to play GM. One of the great things about baseball is everyone second guesses every move. Even if it works. I never thought Dontrelle would be successful in the AL. His pitching style and what he throws were not suited for it. Injuries happen and Pavano fell victim to them. I think the NY market and it's pressure to perform made him come back sooner then he was ready more then once. It ended up hurting him and the Yankees in the long run. He seems to be getting stronger in Cleveland with less pressure. Still, I can't wait for the new park to open.  (Jun 24, 2009 | post #26)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Johnson's performance putting pressure on Marlins to sign...

The year the Marlins won their first WS they drew close to 2.4 million fans. In July of that year Huizenga put out a press release that if they didn't get a new ballpark he was trading everyone. I sat there in my seat after game seven ended watching the celebration erupting all around the ballpark and instead of being happy I knew I would never see even a remnant of that team play again. John Henry lied like a rug trying to get the new ballpark financed. He first said he would build it himself. Then he amended that and said it would be at most a 30,000 seat park. Never mind that MLB has standards about the amount of seats in new stadiums. Finally he slinked out of town with his tail between his legs getting a sweetheart deal with MLB to acquire the Red Sox and Fenway. He never did anything in any way to bring in major free agents. Some of the trades and draft choices made during his regime were instrumental in getting some of the players that helped the Marlins win their second WS. But his ownership can't be looked at as a success in any way. Loria already had a dubious record before he arrived. First of all, he gets way too much credit for winning the second WS in 2003 as over half of those guys were brought in by the trades and draft choices made by Dave Dombrowski during the first two ownerships. When Loria gave the okay to bring in Pudge as the final piece it solidified the line up. Firing Torborg and hiring McKeon was a good move for that team but not so much in the following seasons. Bottomline, if the Marlins didn't have the scouting department and front office they do now, they wouldn't be anywhere near the team they have shown they are in recent years. Beinfest and Company get the most out of one of the stingiest owners in baseball. Loria controls the payroll and to no surprise, the Marlins are one of the most profitable teams in the league due to their revenue sharing funds and lack of outlay in payroll. Yet he does nothing. You do not trade talent like Miguel Cabrera. Unless you get, oh say someone like a Tim Lincecum in return. As far as the other sports, who cares. This is supposed top be about the Marlins and whether they will keep a pitcher that can be one of the best in franchise history. There's no excuse now. They have the new ballpark. Of course it also can be used as the excuse too. Look at all the money we have to shell out. They have, for a long time, been a disaster in public relations. In that lies the biggest problem of their attendance issues.  (Jun 21, 2009 | post #22)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Marlins yank down Mets

You mean like in '03 when we outnumbered you 5 to 1 at home for the playoffs???? It's not the regular season, you should remember that. You got a lot of guts to make predictions for someone whose team hasn't won since their great great great grandfather watched Tinker to Evers to Chance and Mordacai "Three Finger" Brown.  (Jul 31, 2008 | post #42)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Let Manny be ... somewhere else

Contrary to popular opinion there is more to the game then just offense. The Marlins are the worst defensive team in the league right now. Bringing him here would make them worse if that's possible. To start, they would have no one to play right field which, by the way, is the hardest outfield position to play with the throw to third base and so much ground to cover here at home. They'd be a lot slower and honestly, Manny is supposed to be playing for a new contract right now yet he sure hasn't shown any signs in that regard. What makes anyone think he'd be any different by coming here. It would also make them way too right handed and they wouldn't have anyone really viable to hit second behind Hanley. Plus, if the reports are accurate, they would basically give away four players, particularly Hermida and Tucker for what is a two month rental in a situation where both the Pirates and Red Sox are in situations where they want to trade Bay for finacial reasons and Manny for being himself. From a negotiation point of view that's absolutely ridiculous. If this trade were done to make them a favorite to win the WS, that would be one thing. All it does is maybe give them a better chance to hit themselves into the playoffs. They need a catcher and a left handed reliever. Not a malcontent, hit only, slow, malingering left fielder. As far as this being an arbitration issue for next season, isn't that what Loria continues to receive all the revenue sharing dollars for??? Isn't there a problem with having an ownership group continue to run this franchise with a tin cup in their hands??? It's one thing to trade Miggy because he was going to make the big bucks. But to trade Hermida before he was scheduled to make maybe two to four million, that's just wrong. In the process of winning the WS in 2003 the Marlins traded Adrian Gonzalez. That was to bring Uggie here to close. That worked out fine only because they won it all. Still, even now, I wonder how nice it would be to have Gonzalez at first. Of course Loria wouldn't pay for him. I'm so sick and tired of them crying poverty.  (Jul 31, 2008 | post #9)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Ruling pending as trial over Marlins ballpark concludes

Only a baseball novice would take one game out of 162 and base a hypothosis on that.  (Jul 23, 2008 | post #5)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Are Florida Marlins ' plans to be in a new stadium by 201...

50 M comes from the Orange Bowl renovation fund that has been in the works for a while. The OB site is being donated. The Marlins are paying approximately 200 M. The rest is from raising the bed tax. The Marlins will pay for any overruns. Where did you think it was coming from???????? People are focusing on this ballpark as it's the only thing being built. It's just a part of a 3 Billion renovation project for downtown. It's amazing how much that seems to get swept under the rug.  (Jul 16, 2008 | post #71)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Are Florida Marlins ' plans to be in a new stadium by 201...

What I said needs no explanation. That is if you know anything about the Marlins history. Which, obviously you don't.  (Jul 15, 2008 | post #25)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Are Florida Marlins ' plans to be in a new stadium by 201...

The ballpark funding has nothing to to with our tax dollars. Geez..........  (Jul 15, 2008 | post #21)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Are Florida Marlins ' plans to be in a new stadium by 201...

How about pretty much the first two seasons before the baseball strike in August of '94, which was the beginning of our discontent with Huizenga. They also played to a full house some games in '95/'96 and 40 games in '97 before the first sell off of their players. At various times after that they have sold out for different reasons other then playoff games. Maybe if they played in a place where over an hour rain delays weren't an issue, maybe if MLB didn't threaten contraction for two years which does wonders for fan allegence or take away the 2000 All-Star game, which the team used as a season ticket purchase lure, maybe if they hadn't traded off all their best PR assets, the players, twice....... Need I go on  (Jul 15, 2008 | post #20)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Volstad leads Florida Marlins to 3-1 victory over Dodgers

I remember sitting at the stadium formerly known as "Pro Player" back in early '98 and watching an opposing hitter put the ball in play. Immediately I would think to myself, "that's caught". However, to my surprise, a ball on the ground would not be reached or a fly or pop would fall to the ground. It was then I realized I wasn't watching Alou, Devo or Edgar anymore but rather a bunch of rookies that didn't know how to take the proper angle on the ball or know where to position themselves in relation to the hitters tendencies. Similarly to that '98 Marlins team, this one has maybe the worst range of any in their history. They give up an extra run, in my opinion every other game, due to their defensive deficiencies. Hopefully, as they mature that will improve but considering that most of them are in their third season I'm beginning to wonder.  (Jul 12, 2008 | post #14)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Nolasco holds off Padres in 3-1 win

As long as he gets the Marlins into the position of winning a game he starts with either the lead or close into the seventh inning, that's all a starter can do. A pitcher has very control over wins and losses unless he throws a shutout and even then the other pitcher or pitchers can do the same thing and he's out of luck. Your team has to score runs, the defense has to keep from making errors so you don't allow unearned runs and your bullpen has to hold the lead when you leave the game. Considering the Marlins never throw a complete game plus the way the pen has a penchant for losing leads lately, the situations I've described are so important. Look at the other day when they scored 17 runs and lost. The pen gave up nine runs after Olsen left the game. He was still in line for the win until the Rockies tied it at 17. Nowadays, with pitch counts and bullpen specialists the number of wins has greatly diminished in comparison to 20-30 years ago when it was a badge of honor to pitch a complete game. Used to be 25 wins were a regular occurance. Now, if a pitcher gets 20 it's a miracle. Both Cy Young winners last season had 19.  (Jul 8, 2008 | post #51)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Nolasco holds off Padres in 3-1 win

Wins are the last statistical category anyone should use as criteria for a pitchers ability or prowess. The NL average team ERA is 4.27. Olsens is 3.96. That means he's .3 runs better then the average pitcher in the league. His WHIP is second amoungst the Marlins starters at 1.30. His hits per innings pitched is better then Nolasco. He's first on the Marlins in innings pitched. Which, in case you don't know is one of the most underrated pitching stats there is. The more innings the starters throw, the less stress it puts on the pen. The main reason our relievers have pitched so rotten lately is most likely fatigue from all those four and five inning performances they were forced to do in April and May. When you consider that Freddi left him in the game in his last start against the Rockies so he could pitch the necessary five innings to get the win and thus he gave up nine runs in doing so, those numbers I just mentioned are inflated due to that performance.  (Jul 8, 2008 | post #45)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Rolled again by Rockies HRs

Go Mickey Lolich. Pitched a complete game on two days rest in that game seven. Remarkable performance the whole series, going 3-0, three complete games and giving up three runs. No such thing as pitch counts then. It amazes me how pitchers survived in those days (sarcasm). Considering Denny McClain won 31 games for the Tigers that year, he sure didn't carry it into the WS either. Although he did throw great in game six. That also was the last season before divisional playoffs began. No such thing as a wild card back then. The Marlins never would have won a WS without it. All day games and no designated hitter either. Ah the memories.  (Jul 6, 2008 | post #14)

South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Florida Marlins 'didn't quit' in 18-17 loss to Denver's C...

My problem with the way he managed last night was with the score at 13-4, Gonzalez left Olsen in the game until he gave up nine total runs. That way he could pitch long enough to get the win. Never in his mind, with that kind of a lead, did he believe they would lose the game. You can't do that in Colorado at that aberration of a ballpark. The Rockies were done for the night and he let them back in the game. When the score got to 13-5 they should have took out the starter because at that point Olsen didn't deserve the win. Still and all, the way the pen has pitched lately, you never know which pitcher to put in. Last night it didn't seem to matter as they allowed runs in eight of the nine innings. I would have kept Waechter in the game to start the ninth though.  (Jul 5, 2008 | post #71)

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