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Teach2Reach Places Mike Rios on The Same Level As The Gre...

We may be pigmies, and they may be giants. But we stand on the shoulders of giants... and we can see farther." Newton was referring to Galeleo, Capernicus and other "dead guys" from whom much can be learned. This is why Johann Gutenberg was selected as the most influencial man of the millenium (He invented the printing press, Gordo). > I suggest not everyone prefers your spin on the juicy, personal details about candidates (dirt). Some may be interested in substantive (important) issues- such as how best to spend our scarce resources, and curriculum development. You ARE right suggesting character is important. "Let us judge a (person) not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." OOOPS SORRY GORDO, I quoted a dead guy again. If "race" is an important issue, I posted 2 alternative perspectives from "informed " sources- sorry if the words are too big for you. And some of the readers (thou not polyglots) may even be able to surmise that RIOS is a Latino name without your considerable efforts.  (Sep 1, 2010 | post #16)

Moreno Valley, CA

Teach2Reach Places Mike Rios on The Same Level As The Gre...

You are quite correct- I've been sucked in to this ridiculous arguement for almost 3 weeks. I've attempted to make points that seemed self-evident to me. Alas, you are absolutely justified in questioning my own use of time. I've successfully illustrated the extent MVGORDIE will go to, to obfuscate the obvious, obscure the facts, and personally attack his opposition. . I neither sought nor support the headline he's given me- and lack the ego to embrace it. I'll allow Gordo to continue to equivocate- and trust that readers are able to access the truth through others: ie 'The Great M L King's' "Letter from Birmingham Jail" Bobby Kennedy's speech against Apartheid in Sawata, Thoreau's "Civil Disobedience" and the countless other scholarly works available on the internet. Please read them- not me! > I appreciate your rebuke- Sincerely, Steve  (Aug 30, 2010 | post #10)

Moreno Valley, CA

Teach2Reach Places Mike Rios on The Same Level As The Gre...

You compound your stupidity. There is NO Dr. Michael King. He changed his name prior to recieving his PhD. My question about Lincoln was a rhetorical question- you idiot! as anyone with a 3 digit IQ could tell! The point was Abraham is a traditionally Jewish name and Lincoln was obviously NOT Jewish. Your response was I DON'T KNOW (If he was) That's how dumb you are. I responded that actually, the original Abraham had ALSO changed his name (from Abram)by command of GOD (Genisis 17:5). That the founder of America (Columbus) was also not born with that name and that "Americanizin g" your name to avoid IDIOTS like you was commonly done at Ellis Island and elsewhere- citing Marie Curie. > That you continue to misrepresent other peoples' positions- and go out of your way to do so- is now obvious to everyone. You hope no one is as pathetically bored as you, and won't defend themselves or there assertions. Readers can find the original comments if they want, and read them in context. Perpetuating a lie with a lie is no way to change your position.  (Aug 30, 2010 | post #6)

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Teach2Reach Places Mike Rios on The Same Level As The Gre...

Yes Gallo, precisely my point! Glad to see so many readers are NOT lemmings, but can find the truth themselves. Thank you.  (Aug 30, 2010 | post #5)

Moreno Valley, CA

Teach2Reach Places Mike Rios on The Same Level As The Gre...

All I suggested was both they, and anyone, had the right to altar their names, and had- YOU SAID KING DID NOT CALLING ME AN IDIOT!And that others should call people by what they prefer to be called. I DID suggest the activism of you, Ms. Baca, Dr. King, and by implication Thoreau and Gandhi, throw in Rosa Parks, was noble. Your objection and my assertion are below. "It's not what you know that scares me. It's not what you think you know that scares me. It's what you think you know, that just ain't so." I don't need you to misinterpret my position for readers, they are able to draw their own conclusions. Let them do so here! > mvgordie wrote: <quoted text> When did he do this? He was born Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., his father of course was Dr. Martin Luther King Sr.(Now he was born as Michael King, but changed HIS name to Martin). Mr. King Sr. died of a heart attack in 1984. Me thinks you need a history lesson, idiot. Good day. MY RESPONSE>> Dear sir, Please read BIOGRAPHY of subject in question prior to suggesting I need the history lesson. Excerp pasted below. But even without the historical proof, sir, I contend he was NOT "BORN" a Dr. but I'd guess he recieved that distinction in '55. His father "OF COURSE" was not awarded a doctorate at birth either you idiot, nor- do I contend- His father was born "Martin" but Michael as well! And he wasn't given the name "Sr." at birth, but recieved that title only after he had a Jr. Five errors in one sentence- and I'm the idiot? vintage MVGORDIE... >QUOTED TEXT "Martin Luther King, Jr.,(January 15, 1929-April 4, 1968) was born Michael Luther King, Jr., but later had his name changed to Martin. His grandfather began the family's long tenure as pastors of the Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, serving from 1914 to 1931; his father has served from then until the present, and from 1960 until his death Martin Luther acted as co-pastor. Martin Luther attended segregated public schools in Georgia, graduating from high school at the age of fifteen; he received the B. A. degree in 1948 from Morehouse College, With a fellowship won at Crozer, he enrolled in graduate studies at Boston University, completing his residence for the doctorate in 1953 and receiving the degree in 1955." > Adding one irrelevant fact with 5 erroneous statements ( the death of his father) is why I suggested you use "half truths". That not one of your "followers " corrected your post is why I suggested they might be "lemmings ". Check my facts- challenge my beliefs, but don't call ME an idiot until you do so. 2+3=5, a square has 4 sides, and Gordie is an idiot... anyone can abuse that technique Gordo.  (Aug 30, 2010 | post #4)

Moreno Valley, CA

The Mexican Political Association and Its Use of Race.

mvgordie wrote: <quoted text> When did he do this? He was born Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., his father of course was Dr. Martin Luther King Sr.(Now he was born as Michael King, but changed HIS name to Martin). Mr. King Sr. died of a heart attack in 1984. Me thinks you need a history lesson, idiot. Good day. MY RESPONSE>> SANE OR INSANE?- CHECK FACTS ON LINE! > Dear sir, Please read BIOGRAPHY of subject in question prior to suggesting I need the history lesson. Excerp pasted below. But even without the historical proof, sir, I contend he was NOT "born" a Dr. but I THINK he recieved that distinction in '55. His father "OF COURSE" was not awarded a doctorate at birth, nor- do I contend- His father was born "Martin" but Michael instead and wasn't given the name "Sr." at birth, but recieved that title only after he had a Jr. Five errors in one sentence- and I'm the idiot? vintage MVGORDIE... >QUOTED TEXT FROM BIOGRAPHY "Martin Luther King, Jr.,(January 15, 1929-April 4, 1968) was born Michael Luther King, Jr., but later had his name changed to Martin... >MY ARGUEMENT Adding one irrelevant fact with 5 erroneous statements ( the death of his father) is why I suggested you use "half truths". That not one of your "followers " corrected your post is why I suggested they might be "lemmings ". Check my facts- challenge my beliefs, but don't call ME an idiot until you do so. 2+3=5, a square has 4 sides, and Gordie is an idiot... anyone can abuse that technique Gordo.  (Aug 30, 2010 | post #18)

Moreno Valley, CA

Luis Miguel Rios, aka. Mike Luis Rios of Moreno Valley! m...

mvgordie wrote: <quoted text> When did he do this? He was born Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., his father of course was Dr. Martin Luther King Sr.(Now he was born as Michael King, but changed HIS name to Martin). Mr. King Sr. died of a heart attack in 1984. Me thinks you need a history lesson, idiot. Good day. MY RESPONSE>> Dear sir, Please read BIOGRAPHY of subject in question prior to suggesting I need the history lesson. Excerp pasted below. But even without the historical proof, sir, I contend he was NOT "born" a Dr. but I THINK he recieved that distinction in '55. His father "OF COURSE" was not awarded a doctorate at birth, nor- do I contend- His father was born "Martin" but Michael instead and wasn't given the name "Sr." at birth, but recieved that title only after he had a Jr. Five errors in one sentence- and I'm the idiot? vintage MVGORDIE... > >SEE QUOTED TEXT POSTED EARLIER OR GOOGLE BIOGRAPHY "Martin Luther King, Jr.,(January 15, 1929-April 4, 1968) was born Michael Luther King, Jr., but later had his name changed to Martin..." > Adding one irrelevant fact with 5 erroneous statements ( the death of his father) is why I suggested you use "half truths". That not one of your "followers " corrected your post is why I suggested they might be "lemmings ". Check my facts- challenge my beliefs, but don't call ME an idiot until you do so. 2+3=5, a square has 4 sides, and Gordie is an idiot... anyone can abuse that technique Gordo.  (Aug 30, 2010 | post #33)

Moreno Valley, CA

The Racist Side of Candidate for School Board Victoria Ba...

mvgordie wrote: <quoted text> FROM MVGORDIE When did he do this? He was born Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., his father of course was Dr. Martin Luther King Sr.(Now he was born as Michael King, but changed HIS name to Martin). Mr. King Sr. died of a heart attack in 1984. Me thinks you need a history lesson, idiot. Good day. MY RESPONSE>> Dear sir, Please read BIOGRAPHY of subject in question prior to suggesting I need the history lesson. Excerp pasted below. But even without the historical proof, sir, I contend he was NOT "born" a Dr. but I THINK he recieved that distinction in '55. His father "OF COURSE" was not awarded a doctorate at birth, nor- do I contend- His father was born "Martin" but Michael instead and wasn't given the name "Sr." at birth, but recieved that title only after he had a Jr. Five errors in one sentence- and I'm the idiot? vintage MVGORDIE... >QUOTED TEXT "Martin Luther King, Jr.,(January 15, 1929-April 4, 1968) was born Michael Luther King, Jr., but later had his name changed to Martin. His grandfather began the family's long tenure as pastors of the Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, serving from 1914 to 1931; his father has served from then until the present, and from 1960 until his death Martin Luther acted as co-pastor. Martin Luther attended segregated public schools in Georgia, graduating from high school at the age of fifteen; he received the B. A. degree in 1948 from Morehouse College, With a fellowship won at Crozer, he enrolled in graduate studies at Boston University, completing his residence for the doctorate in 1953 and receiving the degree in 1955." Adding one irrelevant fact with 5 erroneous statements ( the death of his father) is why I suggested you use "half truths". That not one of your "followers " corrected your post is why I suggested they might be "lemmings ". Check my facts- challenge my beliefs, but don't call ME an idiot until you do so. 2+3=5, a square has 4 sides, and Gordie is an idiot... anyone can abuse that technique Gordo.  (Aug 30, 2010 | post #30)

Moreno Valley, CA

The Matter of The People Vs. Victoria E. Baca to Proceed.

I was wrong Gordie- You made 5 wrong statements in one sentence! Dr. King's father was also born with the name Michael! You're an idiot! (see above post, or simply read!)  (Aug 30, 2010 | post #49)

Moreno Valley, CA

The Matter of The People Vs. Victoria E. Baca to Proceed.

Dear sir, Please read BIOGRAPHY of subject in question prior to suggesting I need the history lesson. Excerp pasted below. But even without the historical proof, sir, I contend he was NOT "born" a Dr. but I THINK he recieved that distinction in '55. His father "OF COURSE" was not awarded a doctorate at birth, nor- do I believe- was he given the name "Sr." at birth, but recieved that title only after he had a Jr. Three errors in one sentence- and I'm the idiot? vintage MVGORDIE... > "Martin Luther King, Jr., (January 15, 1929-April 4, 1968) was born Michael Luther King, Jr., but later had his name changed to Martin. His grandfather began the family's long tenure as pastors of the Ebenezer Baptist Church in Atlanta, serving from 1914 to 1931; his father has served from then until the present, and from 1960 until his death Martin Luther acted as co-pastor. Martin Luther attended segregated public schools in Georgia, graduating from high school at the age of fifteen; he received the B. A. degree in 1948 from Morehouse College, With a fellowship won at Crozer, he enrolled in graduate studies at Boston University, completing his residence for the doctorate in 1953 and receiving the degree in 1955." "If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken, twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools..." Kipling. I admit, I can't.  (Aug 30, 2010 | post #48)

Moreno Valley, CA

The Matter of The People Vs. Victoria E. Baca to Proceed.

3) MY ARGUEMENT ON RACE: I DENY THE PREMISE OF THE QUESTION. I assert, again, that race is a human construct. National Origin, Ethnicity, and Cultural Experiences frame our attitudes, values, and beliefs. What I contend DOES exist is racism, and I claim it is NOT justified. Biological differences between races are incidental in determining academic success. The most consistent statistical indicator of sucess in school is the income level of the household (coorelated to academic achievement of parents). As claimed earlier, I believe that there is greater difference WITHIN each race than BETWEEN each race. The following passage- available online from WINIPEDIA supports my guess. "With the vast expansion of scientific knowledge in this century, however, it has become clear that human populations are not unambiguous, clearly demarcated, biologically distinct groups. Evidence from the analysis of genetics (e.g., DNA) indicates that most physical variation, about 94%, lies within so-called racial groups. Conventional geographic "racial" groupings differ from one another only in about 6% of their genes. This means that there is greater variation within "racial" groups than between them." MY SUPOSITION WAS PRETTY CLOSE. I URGE ALL READERS NOT TO ADOPT ANY POSITION, TO AGAIN TO CONTINUE TO LEARN THE RELEVANT ISSUES AND DRAW UPON YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE. I received my early education in Darien and New Caanan Ct. Google these school districts. Compare their acheivement to Moreno Valley. Compare their per capita income- level of parent's education median family home price AND EXPENDITURE PER STUDENT to Moreno Valley. The experience supports the data (subjective and objective analysis). Thank you. I hope you continue to pursue genuine issues of concern. That as you advocate "citizens First" you adopt a "Children First" commitment and abandon foolish, devisive, and non-productive rhetoric, choosing instead to build upon a shared commitment to meet the daunting challenges that lie ahead Good Bye  (Aug 29, 2010 | post #42)

Moreno Valley, CA

The Matter of The People Vs. Victoria E. Baca to Proceed.

................LI ES, DAMN LIES AND STATISTICS. ....1. RACIALIST ARGUEMENT FOR REFORM (LEFT) By D. E. Campbell "Students of different ethnic groups... learn to read at dramatically different rates in our schools. The ethnic group you belong to makes a substantial difference in school achievement. Mexican Americans leave school at a higher rate than other Hispanics, and Hispanics drop out at a higher rate than do non-Hispanic Whites (Ramirez & de la Cruz, 2003). There has been a dramatic increase in the rate of segregation of Black and Latino students from White students in the nation’s public schools (Frey, 2006; Orfield & Lee, 2007). We are becoming a more divided nation. The reason for this is relatively straightforward: Schools for poor children and children of color are inadequately secure, staffed, and funded. Economic choices—for example, to unequally and inadequately fund schools—produce most of the differences in achievement that are used as evidence of racial superiority and inferiority". .....2.RACIALIST ARGUEMENT AGAINST REFORM (RIGHT) -- Pat Buchanon "In 21st-century America, institutional racism and sexism remain great twin evils to be eradicated on our long journey to the wonderful world where, at last, all are equal. What are we to make, then, of a profession that rewards workers with fame and fortune yet discriminates ruthlessly against women; an institution where Hispanics and Asians, 20 percent of the U.S. population, are neither sought after nor widely seen. In this profession, white males, a third of the population, retain a third of the jobs. But black males, 6.5 percent of the U.S. population, have 67 percent of the coveted positions — 10 times their fair share. We are talking of the NFL... Why, then, cannot our elites accept that, be it by nature, nurture, attitude or aptitude, we are not all equal in academic ability? What raises this issue is the anguish evident in New York over the latest state test scores of public school students, which reveal that the ballyhooed progress in closing the racial achievement gap never happened... ...Teach all kids to the limit of their ability, while recognizing that not all are equal in their ability to read, write, learn, compute or debate, any more than they are equally able to play in a band or excel on a ball field. The beginning of wisdom is to recognize this world as it is, not as what we would wish it to be."  (Aug 29, 2010 | post #41)

Moreno Valley, CA

The Matter of The People Vs. Victoria E. Baca to Proceed.

A mind at work! Thanks for the support- I'm delighted some of the readers apparently understand an arguement; I felt I put it forth rather plainly. I, too, become frustrated with the unabated and unabashed ignorance of some of the respondants. But please, sir, you need not refer to Gordie as a "Dumbass " after you had made the point so abuntantly clear! Idiot (as he called me) is o.k. Moron and Imbecile better still. They are antiquated pschological distinctions of Inteligence Quotient denoting those 3,4,and 5 standard deviations from the norm (100) respectively. Since Forest Gump was an idiot, I took no offense. Consider the source! Thanks  (Aug 28, 2010 | post #27)

Moreno Valley, CA

The Racist Side of Candidate for School Board Victoria Ba...

Good Morning to you. If "sunshine " was intended to imply a lack of optimism on my part; point well taken. I'll try to refrain from disengenuous rebuttal- responding "in kind" is beneath me. For a Post-Modern approach to Values Curriculum (a bit "left": for me) hunt down some of the writtings of Paulo Friere. I co-hosted a symposium for Dr. Joe Kincheloe, a freind, author, publisher, and advocate of a new look at education. He has written many books challenging the current paradigm. I don't endorse all his views, but respect his vision and evaluate his idiology with an open mind.  (Aug 28, 2010 | post #29)

Moreno Valley, CA

The Matter of The People Vs. Victoria E. Baca to Proceed.

mvgordie I assume you are not unaware that the quote you ascribe as your personal philosophy on your site.. "March to the music you here" was penned by Thoreau. "Why is man in such desperate haste to succeed... if man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps he hears a different drummer. Let him march to the music he hears, no matter how measured or far away." (paraphrase from memory) With Emerson, this icon of Transcendentalism believed man, through reflection, could arrive at moral ends! Your opinions are far from the "Beat of a different drummer." Yours is tired, age-old bigotry- spawned by fear and ignorance!. If you want to embrace the philosophy of a Great man, perhaps you should read what he has written! Many would argue that what Ms. Baca has done, embraces the heart of civil disobedience, can be considered morally corageous, and is deeply rooted in the highest ethical standards of contemporary American values. Comments below reflect the impression of heroes far smarter than I... and, dare I suggest, you too. Nothing wrong with ignorance Gordie, but don't expect to wear it like a badge of honor in front of discerning minds. GOOGLE "THOREAU " AND LEARN "While Walden can be applied to almost anyone's life, "Civil Disobedience" is like a venerated architectural landmark: it is preserved and admired, and sometimes visited, but for most of us there are not many occasions when it can actually be used. Still, although seldom mentioned without references to Gandhi or King, "Civil Disobedience" has more history than many suspect. In the 1940's it was read by the Danish resistance, in the 1950's it was cherished by those who opposed McCarthyism, in the 1960's it was influential in the struggle against South African apartheid, and in the 1970's it was discovered by a new generation of anti-war activists. The lesson learned from all this experience is that Thoreau's ideas really do work, just as he imagined they would." > Gandhi "Thoreau was a great writer, philosopher, poet, and withal a most practical man, that is, he taught nothing he was not prepared to practise in himself. ... He went to gaol for the sake of his principles and suffering humanity. His essay has, therefore, been sanctified by suffering. Moreover, it is written for all time. Its incisive logic is unanswerable. " Gandhi > King "I became convinced that noncooperation with evil is as much a moral obligation as is cooperation with good. No other person has been more eloquent and passionate in getting this idea across than Henry David Thoreau. As a result of his writings and personal witness, we are the heirs of a legacy of creative protest." - Martin Luther King, Jr, Either abandon Thoreau as you philosophical compass, or learn what he intended to teach!  (Aug 27, 2010 | post #20)

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