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The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

You are obviously one of those people who believe that the Bush cabinet was filled scientists while the National Academy of Sciences is filled with political hacks. Somehow, just calling yourself "PHD" doesn't seem to make you look very bright.  (Feb 19, 2010 | post #2325)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

Nobody can be an expert in everything. Reasonable people can accept expert opinion from sources they deem to be credible. Cutting and pasting reliable information from credible sources is no sin. All that is left to determine is whether someone is using credible sources. When it comes to scientific matters, there is a difference in the credibility of Fox News, the American Enterprise Institute, and the Petroleum Institute on the one hand, versus the National Academy of Sciences, the American Association for the Advancement of Sciences, and the National Research Council on the other. One doesn't have to be an electrical engineer or a nuclear scientist to figure out which groups are more likely to get their scientific facts straight. It is also easy, for any but the the most intentionally blind, to see which groups have the decidedly political bias.  (Feb 19, 2010 | post #2314)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

It is interesting how you accurately report on the work of this Nobel Prize winning chemist and then fictionalize the last two lines. You are truly demented. Although he was demonized for many decades, very nearly all scientists now accept his conclusions regarding the effects of greenhouse gasses. His biggest miscalculation was that he thought it would take 3000 years to double the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere. Now it looks like it will happen within this century.  (Feb 10, 2010 | post #2233)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

I suppose you also believe that the following are not scientific organizations: Academia Brasileira de Ciéncias, Brazil Royal Society of Canada, Canada Chinese Academy of Sciences, China Académie des Sciences, France Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei, Italy Russian Academy of Sciences, Russia National Academy of Sciences, United States of America Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina, Germany Science Council of Japan, Japan Academy of Science of South Africa, South Africa Indian National Science Academy, India Academia Mexicana de Ciencias, Mexico Royal Society, United Kingdom American Association for the Advancement of Science European Academy of Sciences and Arts National Research Council (US) American Geophysical Union European Geosciences Union Geological Society of America American Meteorological Society Royal Meteorological Society (UK) World Meteorological Organization American Astronomical Society American Chemical Society American Institute of Physics On the other hand, you probably think that the Bush Environmental Protection Agency, the American Enterprise Institute, and the Petroleum Institute are reputable scientific bodies. It seems that people who think that the scientific organizations are filled with political hacks also think that the Bush administration was filled with scientists. Rational people think they have that backwards.  (Feb 7, 2010 | post #2214)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

The oldest fossil evidence for anatomically modern humans is about 130,000 years old in Africa, and there is evidence for modern humans in the Near East sometime before 90,000 years ago." Your quote is from USA Today columnist April Holladay. According to the article, "A few years ago Holladay retired early from computer engineering to canoe the flood-swollen Mackenzie, Canada's largest river. Now she writes a column about nature and science, which appears Fridays at USATODAY.com. " My quote is from the "Human Origins Program" run under the direction of the Paleoanthropologis t Rick Potts at the National Museum of Natural History of the Smithsonian Institution. "He received his B.A. in Anthropology from Temple University (1975) and his Ph.D. in biological anthropology from Harvard University (1982). He then went to teach at Yale University from 1981 to 1985, where he was also Curator of Physical Anthropology in the Yale Peabody Museum. He has been with the Smithsonian since 1985 ..." You pick your sources and I will pick mine. Given your distrust of scientists and their organizations, I can understand why you would prefer USA Today. It also helps to explain why you are a skeptic on global warming.  (Feb 6, 2010 | post #2190)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

Now you have demonstrated that your ignorance of the evolution of species is equal to your ignorance of climate change. Humans have been around for far fewer than 650.000 years. http://anthropolog y.si.edu/humanorig ins/ha/sap.htm  (Feb 6, 2010 | post #2181)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

The planet was not capable of sustaining human life a billion years ago. If the planet goes back to those temperatures and that atmospheric composition, it is doubtful that human life could any longer be sustained. Survival of species depends on preserving a livable environment.  (Feb 6, 2010 | post #2174)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

I have never offered an original opinion on whether the sun will rise in the east or set in the west. That does not imply any inaccuracy in such a statement. It is the acceptance of an established scientific principle totally unrelated to any left or right wing leanings. On the other hand, some people insist on issuing their own opinions on scientific matters based solely on their personal political beliefs. Having your own individualistic skeptical position contrary to established science doesn't make you look like another Einstein. It makes you look like a political hack, which is exactly what you appear to be.  (Feb 4, 2010 | post #2158)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

It is true that global direct measurement of surface temperatures only go back about 130 years. It is also true that "fairly accurate" proxy measures of global temperatures only go back some 2000 years. Less precise proxy measures from ice cores give us data going back about 650,000 years. It is obvious that data will never be complete for all periods of time with complete accuracy or complete certainty. However, it is also very clear that no measurements have ever shown that it has been warmer than the present time during the period of time when humans have been able to thrive on Earth. Nor has the concentration of CO2 and other greenhouse gasses ever been higher than present during that time frame. The fact that the earth was warmer and the atmosphere more concentrated with CO2 before human evolution of should be of no comfort to anyone, except perhaps the few vegetables that are still posting to Topix.  (Feb 3, 2010 | post #2151)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

The revenues of the federal government during the Eisenhower years varied from a low of 16.2% of Gross Domestic Product (in FY 1959) to 18.7% (in FY 1953). The expenditures during the Eisenhower years were only slightly higher than revenues, generally within one percentage point. In the first years of the Bush administration, federal revenues exceeded federal expenditures. Then, Bush got his tax cut for the very rich and soon expenditures far exceeded revenues. Tax revenues in FY 2008 (under Bush) were at 17.7% while expenditures were much higher at 21.0% of GDP. The estimate of revenues for FY 2009 (four months of Bush and eight months of Obama) is 15.1% of GDP, a lower tax burden than under Eisenhower, but expenditures ran much higher at 28.1%. It is no surprise that the national debt has been rising rapidly. See page 25: http://www.gpoacce ss.gov/usbudget/fy 10/pdf/hist.pdf  (Feb 1, 2010 | post #2135)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

Bush's last budget bill explicitly did not include the costs of the two wars he started. It also did not include the massive TARP bailout of big banks and AIG which added more than half a trillion more to the national obligations. The budget bill is not a good indicator of the budget deficit. The current accounts data which I linked a couple of days ago gives a better picture of where the money is coming from and where it is going. The deficit from the first Obama year is not very different from the budget deficit of the last year of President Bush. Both of them faced an economic crisis of catastrophic dimensions, although the crisis clearly developed long before Obama took office. The latest recession officially started in December 2007. When faced with the prospect of another "great Depression," the short term deficit has to rise since the government is the spender of last resort. The worst thing that the president could do is try to balance the budget at this time. When this was tried in the mid 1930s, the economy plunged right back into the depression for a second round. The largest deficits in American history took place under the presidencies of Reagan and Dubya. In the years since Eisenhower, there have been two years with a budget surplus, both occurred in the last years of the Clinton Presidency. If you include the Social Security surplus, the government has been in the black for five years in that time frame, one year under Nixon and four years under Clinton. The facts are on page 22: http://www.gpoacce ss.gov/usbudget/fy 10/pdf/hist.pdf  (Feb 1, 2010 | post #2134)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

Your post at #2079 saidI didn't add a word to your disgusting lie. If that is a misquote, you should complain to Topix. If that is an accurate quote, you should apologize for publishing blatant lies. There isn't the slightest scent of the truth in your statement, quoted above. If you can't understand that, you are deluded, as well as grossly misinformed.  (Feb 1, 2010 | post #2119)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

What you said isAnd that is a big fat ugly lie and you are a disgusting liar. Only a blind idiot could "see" that Obama has increased the national debt more in one year than the Bush administration did in eight.  (Jan 31, 2010 | post #2112)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

I call the messenger a liar because the message was a blatant lie. It has nothing to do with my political leanings. The deficit under the first year of Obama wasn't three times more than the combined deficits of the eight years of the Bush Administration -- not even close. The budget deficits under Bush ran up to more than $4 trillion. The first year of Obama was less than half that, about the same as the last year of the Bush Administration. This is not a matter of political opinion, it is fact, and the budget report of the the Office of Management and Budget, cited above, is as good a source for historical budget information as anyone can find.  (Jan 31, 2010 | post #2107)

The Santa Fe New Mexican

Former astronaut scoffs at global warming

Your total ignorance is on very public display. Have you no shame about posting such outrageous lies? If you have any interest in the truth, which I doubt, you can see the real numbers as tallied by the Government Printing Office (bottom of page 22): http://www.gpoacce ss.gov/usbudget/fy 10/pdf/hist.pdf  (Jan 31, 2010 | post #2086)

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