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The Hebrew Bible disproves Christianity on the duration o...

whatever the racial constitution of Israel, the law was not given to any other nation other than Israel. By 'jews' I meant Israel. Read Psalm 147:19-20  (Mar 20, 2016 | post #30)

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The Hebrew Bible disproves Christianity on the duration o...

Jesus defined the commandants to include the Law of Moses: Mt 19:17-19 Jesus said: "keep the commandments. " The man replied "Which ones?" And Jesus said, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'' This law is found in Leviticus 19:18 in a context which is not discussing the ten commandments. So levitical law is also 'commandments'.  (Feb 27, 2016 | post #25)

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The virgin birth and Jesus' genealogies disqualify him fr...

Jesus failed to do the works of the messiah. He didn't save Israel from their enemies, didn't bring world peace, didn't bring the world to religious unity and never ruled as king.  (Feb 27, 2016 | post #38)

Christian

The virgin birth and Jesus' genealogies disqualify him fr...

You're conflating cultures. The only relevant examples would be a Hebrew parent adopting a child and passing on blood-rights such as levitical, priestly or royal. All your examples are irrelevant and most are about non-hebrew nations.  (Feb 27, 2016 | post #37)

Christian

The virgin birth and Jesus' genealogies disqualify him fr...

This is not relevant. It's not a discussion of blood-rights being passed on by adoption.  (Feb 27, 2016 | post #35)

Christian

The virgin birth and Jesus' genealogies disqualify him fr...

I'm not Jewish, so I don't consider the extrabiblical Jewish writings as authoritative or inspired. My argument is that as things stand in the Bible, Jechoniah is cursed, that his seed would never sit on David's throne. By the way, not all Jews believe in extrabiblical literature. Look up the karaites. Jesus' main obstacle is a virgin birth. Virgin birth means he is not a descendant of Judah, David and Solomon because lineage goes through fathers. Physical fathers.  (Feb 27, 2016 | post #33)

Christian

The virgin birth and Jesus' genealogies disqualify him fr...

The new testament never says Joseph adopted Jesus. Secondly, there is no passing of tribal or dynastic rights through adoption. There is simply no precedent for that in the old testament. A non-levite who got himself 'adopted' by a levite didn't suddenly become a levite and get priestly rights. Secondly, Mary's line is useless as far as genealogy is concerned. When a girl is not yet married, she belongs to her father's tribe. When she gets married, she belongs to her husband's tribe. Women don't pass on tribal status or royal or priestly rights. It's only men. So, if Luke is tracing Mary's lineage, we discard it. It has no value.  (Feb 24, 2016 | post #18)

Christian

The Hebrew Bible disproves Christianity on the duration o...

It doesn't say the ten commandments! Read Psalm 111:7-8 again. It says ALL HIS COMMANDMENTS are forever! All of them! There are around 600 commandments.  (Feb 24, 2016 | post #23)

Christian

The Hebrew Bible disproves Christianity on the duration o...

You left out, ''And this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: after those days, says the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God and they shall be my people.'' It clearly says the law will be written in the hearts of people. The same law which is in the books of the law. Christians hate the law.  (Feb 24, 2016 | post #22)

Christian

The Hebrew Bible disproves Christianity on the duration o...

The council of Jerusalem in Acts 15 began to change the law by abolishing circumcision, violating Deuteronomy 4:2. All the talk about love is meaningless if you don't love God and keep his law given to Moses. Christianity plays around with words by re-definiting what keeping the law means.  (Feb 16, 2016 | post #5)

Christian

The Hebrew Bible disproves Christianity on the duration o...

Actually, Jesus failed to fulfil messianic prophecy. The world hasn't changed one bit. No sign of the messiah having been here. http://www.simplet oremember.com/arti cles/a/jewsandjesu s/  (Feb 16, 2016 | post #4)

Christian

The Hebrew Bible disproves Christianity on the duration o...

The difference among Jews, Christians and Muslims is that Jews insist that the law of Moses was given to be kept forever. Christians and Muslims both disagree and claim that the Torah of Moses was supposed to last only temporarily, after which it would be abrogated, fulfilled or replaced. Then it would cease to be binding. How then can Christians and Muslims explain the following scriptures from the old testament explaining the eternality of the law? David said the law is perfect and right. If it is perfect, there is no need to remove it. ''The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. The Statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.'' - Psalm 19:7 ''Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.'' - Deuteronomy 4:2 ''The secret things below unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children FOREVER, that we may do all the words of THIS LAW.'' - Deuteronomy 29:29 ''The works of his hands are verity and judgement: ALL HIS COMMANDMENTS are sure. They stand fast FOREVER AND EVER.'' - Psalm 111:7-8 The rest of the old testament scriptures which state that the law was indeed permanent and was not going to be changed or removed are as follows: Exodus 12:14, 12:17, 12:43, 27:21, 28:43, / Leviticus 3:17, 7:36, 10:9, 16:29, 16:31, 16:34, 17:7, 23:14, 23:21, 23:31, 23:41, 24:3, / Numbers 10:8, 15:15, 19:10, 19:21, 18:23, 35:29  (Feb 15, 2016 | post #1)

Christian

Are The Chosen People Of God Today Of A Specific Race

Yes. Deuteronomy 7:7-12 makes it clear that God will keep his covenant with the Jews forever.  (Feb 3, 2016 | post #40)

Christian

The virgin birth and Jesus' genealogies disqualify him fr...

CORRECTION: the first quoted verse should be *Genesis 49:10* not 40:10  (Feb 1, 2016 | post #2)

Christian

The virgin birth and Jesus' genealogies disqualify him fr...

How can Jesus be the messiah if he was born of a virgin? We know that the messiah has to be a physical descendant of Judah (Genesis 40:10), David (Psalm 132:11) and Solomon (2 Samuel 7:12-16, 1 Chronicles 22:9-10). We also know that lineage or pedigree is ALWAYS reckoned according to fathers (Exodus 6:14, 6:25 / Numbers 17:21, 34:14, 36:1, / Joshua 14:1, 19:51, 21:1, 22:14, Ezra 1:5, 2:59, 2:68, 3:12, 4:2-3, 8:1, 10:16; / Nehemiah 7:61, 7:69-70, 8:13, 12:12, 12:22-23.). Considering these three facts and the Christian claim that Jesus was virgin born, Jesus had no human father to trace a lineage passing through Solomon, David and Judah. He therefore cannot be the legitimate messiah. The gospel writers give him two conflicting and irrelevant genealogies: 1. Matthew traces him through his father Joseph going to David. But he includes King Jechoniah (Matthew 1:11). God cursed Jechoniah and declared that his seed are excluded from sitting upon the throne of David (Jeremiah 22:24:30). 2. Luke traces Jesus through Joseph but his lineage goes through Nathan the son of David (Luke 3:31). This lineage is irrelevant because it was Solomon's dynasty that God had promised to establish forever (2 Samuel 7:12-16) But even more importantly, whichever of these two conflicting genealogies is correct, they are not relevant for messiahship because Jesus had no human father from the house of David and therefore had no legal access to the blood-rights of Kingship. How then can Jesus be the messiah?  (Feb 1, 2016 | post #1)