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Proof God is imaginary

The bible. Now there's a topic. 1. Incomplete collection of books in which metaphors were used to open the interruption and allow the few to control the many thru fear. 2.Jumper, your really annoying. then we get to three...this is the point where you agree and thank the Gods I said it or you want to associate me with the lump sum of standard morons. The ideals of Christianity are what makes the idea of atheism so radical, with out the "SERVE GOD SLAVE!" most people could find their faith. The constant demand of servitude is what merits the constant demand for rebellion, sadly this is also proven by us as pagans, I was raised Pagan, most people are in one of three categories, dumbass teens courrupting their souls with foolish notions of black magic or some other form of Dark magic, just to rebel. Second you have those who walk this path for bragging rights, and a chance to be different, third: The silent few whom you'd never recognize as witches and pagans. the point is, without Judeo Christian beliefs, it wouldn't matter, you dislike the God YOUR GONNA BURN BOY! But in the days of prominate polytheism you didn't like the Gods, that sucks wonder why? Oh well. we've made disproving one another so important its the second half of faith. Its "all or nothing" two halves of a perfect circle  (Jul 10, 2013 | post #16)

Pagan/Wiccan

Please help..Death spell casted on me..

I'm awe struck by this stupidity. Just. Wow. Death magic? For serious dude? Get a grip, Grow a pair and rise to the occasion, any magic done to you with out your permission is void until you give your permission. Acknowledgment is permission so here's a hint: stop effin talking about it. secondly: why would you waste time on a forum about any of this? Are people so crazy that they expect the internet to save them?  (Jul 9, 2013 | post #137)

Pagan/Wiccan

Proof God is imaginary

Not sure how Charlie sheen has anything to do with this but ok. first: Isn't it kind of odd how religion is always present in every culture? If there was no proof that would cause a rift that would eventually extinguish an un proven idealism. Yet as a whole through out every culture of the 2 legged man, we have had a God of some sort, typically a God that fits our needs but always present, even if constantly manipulated to be a tool of oppression murder rape plunder and mayhem. It doesn't change the fact that the energies we as Pagans, Christians,Islamic ,Hindu and Buddhist, creates an idea and is constantly fed by the nuclear power plant of faith. So while I do respect the Atheists and their path, its as illogical as denying that rain was once a puddle, river or creek of some sort. While we can't see what's happening with our eyes we depend on the continuation of said process. Just like we depend on the Devine process to continue rolling along, even if we started it by faith. We need God just as God (The Gods I should say) need us.  (Jul 9, 2013 | post #8)

Pagan/Wiccan

Deities who can create or open gateways to new realms?

Well, then all I got is good luck! I'd be interested in how it works out.  (Jul 5, 2013 | post #8)

Pagan/Wiccan

Pagan Community

Lol. Clear point. I'm not on anyones side. But yea I've seen the trolling jumper does. And I'm not fooled. But regardless thanks guys!  (Jul 3, 2013 | post #16)

Pagan/Wiccan

Pagan Community

You guys kind prove my point. I know that typically jump is mega trollin but with his belief in "inner goodness" and others belief in ritual practice. Regardless of what we can set aside its almost impossible for us to come together over the internet, so what can we expect in person? I mean really. Jumper, proud and Kath would definatly not be able to work together no matter the cause. Far to different. Jumper reminds me of Loki and Kath is Thor. Its a fight waiting to happen. anyway. This simply proves my point, even without faces and examples of our beliefs, just by actions we decide who we like and who we don't like.  (Jul 2, 2013 | post #10)

Pagan/Wiccan

Pagan Community

I've been pondering lately, we all hear about the Pagan and Witch community. What I want to know is this: excluding our Gods and Goddesses most pagans have very little in common. For example I fully accept that some times there's no need for a ritual to use magic but others believe that the ritual is crucial for success. I would never challenge anothers belief but how can we work together if our faith in the other person is shaken by different beliefs. I was a member of a wonderful coven as I was learning after my great grandmother passed over, she was my teacher and my best friend but when I came to the coven, the High Priestess was a friend of my teacher, I found that I couldn't simply accept what they were trying to teach. Not that it was wrong but it was far to narrow for me. I loved the ease of accessing knowledge each individual members had but once I started trying to sift through what I was finding out, I saw that even in a coven their was about 10 different paths. This strengthened my belief that I couldn't participate in their rituals. In my eyes it seems that the "Be silent rule" is actually great even inside the accepting community of like minded people because if people know they are doing ritual work they need to have faith that their brothers and sisters are competent in the sense of the ritual. Not to say that we can't come together and learn from each other but how can a coven call upon an energy together if all parts of the circle are not completely in tune. I'm trying to figure this out to some extent because of a personal situation, I'm a family man, with a wonderful wife and young daughter but I want to raise our child to know that we are witches, yet to never reveal that unless directly confronted about it. (not to deny it but to never indicate it) yet my wife's a different story she's extremely afraid of her talents as an empath, and clings to some parts of the Judeo Christian faith she was raised in, not to say that its bad but it makes it difficult for us to do rituals together because she addresses all divinity as "The Source" but never addresses the Gods individually, but I try to acknowledge each God and Goddess with individualized reverence. So I returned to my former High priestess to look for some knowledge that maybe I was missing. She explained that while we both feel differently about divinity, the common ground should be our goals when working together. If that's the case wouldn't we be calling on more subconsciously then we meant to? In a silly little power struggle by our energies, and possibly the Devine presences we each know personally. Anyway my question is this: with hoodoo, Greek pagans, Wiccan, necromancers, druids, mountain witches, coven members and solitaires. How do we come together in time of ritual for the optimum effectiveness?  (Jun 28, 2013 | post #1)

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in need of protection against astral

Well you could always make a "makeshift " circle. You'll have to focus the intent harder with out the traditional tools but after a while the ritual physco drama can be achieved just through focus. (people say I'm crazy for that idea but I've been forced to learn how to make rituals extremely low key so it works for me, should for you to.) after you get your circle cast burn a stick or 5 of Dragonsblood incense, then take like a crystal you sun cleansed and focus on redirecting any energy from your neighbor to the crystal, I'd say write a mantra for effectiveness, give sound and life to your intent. After about 3 weeks take the crystal and put it in their car. The entertaining part is watching them reap what they've sown for another. if your not quite that vengeful, once you find a space that feels comfortable, sit back and relax, let you spirit step free from your body, enter into the astral, see what energies are flowing to you, sever them, use your hand like a knife, this is a temporary fix you'll have to do it about every day and that's not good for you cause you lose about 3 hours a day doing so. Plus the more time you spend in the astral, the more risk you run in attracting even more attention to your actions. A third solution is my personal favorite. Fight back. I will never encourage anyone to harm another because of the karmatic cost, but abuse from another is never acceptable. Sad truth is that their are only two possible results though. 1. The abuse will stop and they will cease targeting you or 2. You'll piss them off and have a even bigger fight to fight. Don't try to do any kind of force escalation as you will be in the right by defending yourself but if you do more then has been received you become the attacker. situation your in is kinda lame, unless your neighbor has totally lost their mind maybe you should tell them to back the fuck off, never underestimate the power of presence and authority. At some point all of us end up meeting another witch that totally hates everything about you for absolutely no reason. Sad truth about why we are all grey is that we are all humanly challenged. Final thing I'm gonna say: Don't be afraid of any other witch, White, gray or black. They are still only human and sometimes the best way to fight against spiritual assault is very physical retaliation, don't kick their ass or anything, start small with confrontation, after that move to retaltion, if they bruise your body, bruise their life, let the air outta their tire so they miss a big meeting at work. Theirs a million choices you use through subversion and manipulation. Magic is wonderful but don't forget sometimes we just have to be "Normal" .  (Jun 28, 2013 | post #2)

Pagan/Wiccan

Shadow Mist with Red Eyes - How do I stop it from followi...

I've read this post about 5 times just kind of lulling over the details and I have wonder if maybe what your dealing with isn't just the embody.ent of your energy. Some of the details don't seem to point to a engimatic energy. With the bit about it watching you while your vulnerable, the fact that it makes itself known to others just as readily as yourself, the fact that banishing it did not work is the biggest thing I see. Don't think that I'm being crazy here but if you'll put a pile of sea salt in a wooden bowl under your bed, you can see if I'm right. if the salt blackens you can pretty well bank on a demon. The darkness of the salt can indicate how concerned you should be. If its a dark yellowish color you got your self a young low powered demon, if it turns solid black, you got a general, I hope I'm wrong, but the fact that your shadow has a tendency for showmanship and scare tactics its just trying to feed off your energies to gain some strength. If in the unfortunate event in right, look up the sigil of Micheal, or if you prefer a deity you could go with Aries, the God of War does not abide demonic presence. If you decide to use the Arch-angel you'll have to look into the sigil, the summoning, and how to ask for his help. Lets face it, if you have a demon, you have a small scale spiritual war on your hands, who better to call upon the angel who wages war in the name of righteousness. However if you prefer the ultimate Devine soilder I advise Aries. He maybe know as the God of war but he is a fierce protector of innocents. this is just a thought, I hope your issue is solved because Demons aren't fun. The information listed above is from Experience, my wife is a really sensitive empath and didn't know it, that made her a bright light to not just 1 but 2 demons. If I hadn't been a member of a coven at the time I wouldn't have known anything to do about it. Our high priestess came to our home and showed us how the sigils can place marks of protection on our home, it wasn't exactly a peaceful event carving the sigils into the doors and windows. Eventually they were pushed out but even with 10 really great witches it was crazy. I had three busted lamps and about 15 busted pictures. so for once I want nothing more then to be wrong and look like a fool.  (Jun 28, 2013 | post #8)

Pagan/Wiccan

Positive vs Negative Energy

I assume we are all grey. After all we are part of a full circle that beings and ends in light and dark. Negative energy is presumably stronger because of the strength of the negativity that life beats into us, hate, fear and anger of the things we couldn't control or people who slighted us. This makes it more prominent and easily accessible. However using it in ritual work is fairly dangerous because of how addictive it is, we all like success. positive energy is something we have to search for with in our selves, its our love, our mercy and our understanding, so its hidden deeper then some of us can dig. Normally their not alot of kindness preserved in life these days, since we have been taught that self preservation is all that matters. We forget that our families, our children, our loved ones give us the strongest positive energy, the unconditional love and understand is (in my Experience) what makes us strong in "white" spectrum magic. so that's my view. Maybe it helps.  (Jun 28, 2013 | post #4)

Pagan/Wiccan

Do we have free will?

This is how is see free will: in our time in Summerland or what resting place we chose to rest we build a life that will empower our souls, once that life is set out, their are an endless number of probabilities when considering our "destiny " its more of the path we chose that matters not the end result. our lives here are like classrooms for our soul. The love, the pain, the desire, the conflict, everything that makes us human are the things that make our souls grow. With each "left" or "right" our souls learn either what to do or what not to do. Consider that when we pass to our resting ground, all of our knowledge returns to us from every life we've live, its proven that retrospect vision is 20\20 so our souls say "what was I thinkin?" and evolve into a more knowledgeable state of being. Our live are In no way pre determined, its our choice the path and the "forks in the road" are the decisions we make while on the aforementioned path. For those of us that know the Gods and Goddesses we can ask for guidance but its not always given because they are allowing us to learn. We all know that knowledge is power but what if knowledge is growth in ways we can't physically comprehend?  (Jun 28, 2013 | post #6)

Pagan/Wiccan

Deities who can create or open gateways to new realms?

This is a tricky question. First where are you trying to go? The Bi-frost, Summerland, Heaven, Hall of memories? If your looking to step into the spiritual side of world I'd simply say try working on Asteral projection, if you wanna transcend our plane to the bi-frost I'd say your a bit SOL cause its really up to Odin if you have permission to do that. Summerland is gonna be tricky cause I'm not sure how you could find a way in with out living the life you choose when you left. Heaven is definatly out cause there's no one that would help you if you could, Micheal and Raphiel would just boot your ass back home if you did slip past Peter. As for the hall of memories.its just a matter of presenting a good case for the Goddess to allow you to do that, which I've heard about that happening but its usually people trying to recall past lives to overcome current problems they cannot get thru without it. Usually very old souls. But as far as New planes of existence your fairly limited with working with a God or Goddess, because you'd have to have an outstanding relationship with which ever, so its doubtful that they would allow you to walk as their equal. Not impossible but highly unlikely, its safe to say you'd definatly have to earn a blessing like that.  (Jun 28, 2013 | post #6)

Pagan/Wiccan

Target appeals to the likes of the Pagan community with n...

This is brilliant: Wal Mart Christians Target pagans. just another boundary. Being made larger by economics. Yea, I'm a pagan but I'll stab you in the eye if you take away my cherry Pepsi and Sunkist fruit snacks (which are amazing), that doesn't me I don't exercise a little to compensate, but never the less I kinda get where Proud is coming from, but what frightens me the most is that we (and I use that word very loosely now) have became a market tatgetable culture.  (Jun 10, 2013 | post #4)

Marion, NC

nasty teamleaders

It fits.  (Jun 10, 2013 | post #6)