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Russian, French FMs say no to war against Iran

Not sure what happened to my post with the citations, but here are a couple more you can try to discount. "Saddam Hussein came under CIA influence after he had attempted to assassinate Iraq’s leftist military leader, Kassem, in 1958, the same year that Kassem ousted the ruling monarch. Kassem used Nasser as his model. Hussein put together a hit team to take out Kassem. Their attempt failed. Hussein was slightly wounded. He escaped, fled to Cairo, and began a series of contacts with the CIA in Cairo. The CIA was opposed to Kassem, who they regarded as too much like Nasser and too close to Moscow. Although the documentary did not cover the following, it is worth noting that in 1953, the CIA and the British M16 had engineered a coup against the leftist who ran Iran, Mossadegh. The New York Times (April 16, 2000) ran several primary source documents written immediately after the coup by the CIA. They are on-line." http://www.lewrock well.com/north/nor th170.html "Gone is the man who personally received the CIA’s help in destroying the Iraqi communist party. After Saddam seized power, US intelligence gave his minions the home addresses of communists in Baghdad and other cities in an effort to destroy the Soviet Union’s influence in Iraq. Saddam’s mukhabarat visited every home, arrested the occupants and their families, and butchered the lot. Public hanging was for plotters ; the communists, their wives and children, were given special treatment - extreme torture before execution at Abu Ghraib." http://multitudes. samizdat.net/Sadda m-takes-CIA-secret s-to-the.html This to prove Saddam had US backing with chemicals supplied prior to 1990: "A report prepared by the top CIA official handling the matter says Saddam Hussein was not responsible for the massacre, and indicates that it was the work of Iranians. Further, the Scott inquiry on the role of the British government has gathered evidence that following the massacre the United States in fact armed Saddam Hussein to counter the Iranians chemicals for chemicals. Few believe that a CIA man would attend a court hearing in Baghdad in defence of Saddam. But in this case the CIA boss has gone public with his evidence, and this evidence has been in the public domain for more than a year." http://ipsnews.net /interna.asp?idnew s=24480 As I said before, I guess you'll be telling me next that the British had nothing to do with Idi Amin's rise to power, nor did the US get rid of Mossadegh and install the Shah as Iran's leader right before their butts were handed to them and the Ayatollah took back power. But it is ALL true.  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #145)

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The Only Solution to the Israel Problem

300 was a skewed view of history.  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #32)

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The Only Solution to the Israel Problem

But wouldn't that just tick the arabs off more since the same wasn't done for them when it was decided that Israel should be there? I don't think the Jews will go for leaving their holy shrine either. A split Israel/Palestine seems more viable. But I'm doubtful about that working, too....  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #31)

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Why do atheists & skeptics continually bash Christians?

Of course they are; look at the legislation that religion, christianity in particular, lobbies to get passed or voted down. Look at this thread for clarification. It is no big secret that religous radicals are a part of our government, which necessarily pits religion against country because of the faith-based concepts they want to enact eventhough they may not be for the greater good of society as a whole. Our rights as a people are pitted against religion. It has been this way since the inception of our nation.  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #6960)

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Most Commonly Misspelled or Misused Words

Except and accept are two of the biggest mistakes I see, along with to and too. If they don't know what they mean by now, I'm not sure it will help to explain.  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #10)

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Why do atheists & skeptics continually bash Christians?

And yet you can't find a credible source to cite. Isn't this against TOS? It should be....  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #6954)

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Why do atheists & skeptics continually bash Christians?

Tangents aren't exclusive to you, so no worries. Besides that is part of the entertaining process, no? I revel in the differences of people's opinions, and would find it very shallow if a god did indeed have such a narrow path to him, as the bible thumpers who believe god created us as idnividuals but we are all supposed to believe the same thing. What would be the point of the diversity then?  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #6953)

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Why do atheists & skeptics continually bash Christians?

Ramen!!  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #6949)

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Why do atheists & skeptics continually bash Christians?

The people come first, which means the country must come first and all its citizens regardless of religious affiliation.  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #6941)

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Why do atheists & skeptics continually bash Christians?

Very interesting view. I am enjoying reading your posts immensely. :)  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #6936)

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Why do atheists & skeptics continually bash Christians?

Or not...  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #6930)

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Why do atheists & skeptics continually bash Christians?

Being that there are many things we can't see, but know are there physically, we must also take that into account if we are speaking of a creator which none of us has seen. I don't think a god would be anything less than physically material, but maybe just outside of our own perception of matter, if indeed a creator exists that is. I see nature as that creator though, and there must be things we don't know of that can't be seen...yet.  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #6929)

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Why do atheists & skeptics continually bash Christians?

Sorry, skimming here. I pretty much reiterated what you said.  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #6926)

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Why do atheists & skeptics continually bash Christians?

I can agree with that. And would propose that,in essence, there is nothing that is actually supernatural, but only things we do not yet understand relative to natural law.  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #6925)

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Why do atheists & skeptics continually bash Christians?

Oh please. He/she never said the word itself was in the constitution, and forcing religious beliefs into the realm of law is indeed unconstitutional; therefore, bullying in that aspect would be also.  (Oct 1, 2007 | post #6924)

Q & A with Someone Else

Hometown:

Lakeview

Neighborhood:

Lakeview

Local Favorites:

French Quarter, Club 360 at the top of the WTC (it rotates once an hour so you get a full view of the city) Cafe Du Monde for the beignets, etc

I Belong To:

Myself.

When I'm Not on Topix:

I'm reading, riding bikes with friends, by the pool, playing different sports

Read My Forum Posts Because:

I try to think logically and to get other to also.

I'm Listening To:

a lot of diverse music.

Read This Book:

The Age of Reason

Favorite Things:

Peaceful moments, my cat Pepper, sunsets on the Lake, the moom and stars, books, etc

On My Mind:

It seems we are stuck in a perpetual downhill slide when it comes to our nation. We really need someone like Ron Paul, but it will never happen.

I Believe In:

Myself, freedom and that we, the People, still have the power to make positive changes come about.