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Jehovah's Witness

Loving the taste of wormwood.

Why is it that you believe your words carry any value? You speak men's words, nothing else. Even when you speak God's words, you put a man's meaning to them.  (4 hrs ago | post #338)

Jehovah's Witness

Loving the taste of wormwood.

All you need to do is show that what I have said is not scripturally accurate, and that the swill you're drinking is. If you aren't here to teach, what are you here for? Are you the local version of little lamb? She learned her technique from the WTBTS, I guess. It turns out some real dumb bunnies, I guess.  (6 hrs ago | post #334)

Jehovah's Witness

Loving the taste of wormwood.

Here is an example of the WTBTS procedure when someone asks an uncomfortable question regarding their teachings......... . And on an occasion when he went into the house of a certain one of the rulers of the Pharisees on the sabbath to eat a meal, they were closely watching him.  And, look... there was before him a certain man who had dropsy. So in response Jesus spoke to those versed in the Law and to the Pharisees, saying..... Is it lawful on the sabbath to cure or not? But they kept silent. I guess they don't want the kingdom they've built for themselves Judged before it's time. They don't care to listen to God's plea to get out of Satan's world...... Revelation 18: And I heard another voice out of heaven say... Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong. Isaiah: 1 Come, now, people, and let us set matters straight between us,says Jehovah. Though the sins of you people should prove to be as scarlet, they will be made white just like snow; though they should be red like crimson cloth, they will become even like wool. If you people show willingness and do listen, the good of the land you will eat. But if you people refuse and are actually rebellious, with a sword you will be eaten up; for the very mouth of Jehovah has spoken At some point the offer will be withdrawn.  (8 hrs ago | post #332)

Jehovah's Witness

Loving the taste of wormwood.

And the WTBTS opinions are just that. Opinions. You are a bit off when it comes to debating a position, or point. Now you want me to read the bible and form opinions. Is that what you do? The religious drivel that your group aspires to, is no different that of the others. At least not in the context that matters. The only difference in them is the opinion. I've been asking all along to be shown the biblical reason for your faith in those men in Brooklyn. Not one professed Jehovah's Witness anywhere has been willing to show it. I've asked it in the congregation setting, I've asked it directly of elders, they have asked their branch, I have asked on different discussion boards, and it is always the same. No cogent scriptural answer. Now, I could understand that circumstance from other religions, because they don't claim to have God's truth, verbatim. But the Witnesses do. So why won't they present it? Why won't you present it? Are you lying? I know what Jesus said, and he said nothing about your, or any other, organization. The letter writers didn't either. Preaching the good news isn't getting set up in business in a world that we are to be no part of, and Paul actually discouraged getting involved in the commercial affairs of life. What makes your organization able to do it? Where is the scriptural backing? And that's only one thing. There are many I've asked about. Like.... your position on blood. The bible says that blood is completely off limits. (that's God's words) Your organization says that it's not a sin to deliberately take fractions of blood. Where does God's word say anything that allows parts of something that has been declared off limits by God, to be used by those it was declared off limits to? It seems that you people have more faith in the men you are following than you do direct statements of God. Am I wrong for questioning such things, when my conscience is involved? Yet I get no answer. Not even from the guiding lights of your organization. So don't come here and pretend that you actually know what it is you are following. If you can't explain it to others, you don't know it quite as good as you ought to, before supporting such things to other men, as if it's the very word of God.  (10 hrs ago | post #331)

Jehovah's Witness

Does anyone here believe that this describe conditions to...

I asked a question. You seem to have taken offense to it. Now you want me to give examples of a reality I only asked questions about. If you want examples, watch the news, and draw your own conclusions, rather that let someone tell you what the problems in the world are leading to, and why they exist. That is as bad as the Witnesses waiting for their governing body to tell them what to believe. You are no different at all in "kind". You're just traveling with a different pack.  (10 hrs ago | post #22)

Jehovah's Witness

Smashing strongholds

follow the yellow brick road  (11 hrs ago | post #31)

Jehovah's Witness

Who Really Is the "Faithful and Discreet Slave"?

correction: I guess I thought you would expect an answer from the person you were posting to in post #47  (19 hrs ago | post #59)

Jehovah's Witness

Does anyone here believe that this describe conditions to...

I guess I know how uninformed you really are. I will take care not to expect more from you.  (19 hrs ago | post #13)

Jehovah's Witness

Who Really Is the "Faithful and Discreet Slave"?

I guess I thought that you would expect an answer to the person you were posting to, in post number #47  (19 hrs ago | post #58)

Jehovah's Witness

Does anyone here believe that this describe conditions to...

Maybe if you lived in Paris, or Germany, or one of the cities like Baltimore, or a state Florida, or Texas, or Israel, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Greece, Spain, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, , Venezuela, Brazil, Or one of the islands to the south of the US, or Central America you wouldn't think things were so normal. But then if the "faithful slave" told you that it was nothing, you'd probably believe them.  (20 hrs ago | post #10)

Jehovah's Witness

Who Really Is the "Faithful and Discreet Slave"?

who?  (21 hrs ago | post #51)

Jehovah's Witness

Does anyone here believe that this describe conditions to...

What questions? there were none in that post. I figure you don't mind being compared to those Peter mentioned. You fit the mold perfectly, don't you know. 2 Peter 3: Beloved ones, this is now the second letter I am writing you, in which, as in my first one, I am arousing your clear thinking faculties by way of a reminder, that you should remember the sayings previously spoken by the holy prophets and the commandment of the Lord and Savior through your apostles. For you know this first, that in the last days there will come ridiculers with their ridicule, proceeding according to their own desires and saying: Where is this promised presence of his? Why, from the day our forefathers fell asleep [in death], all things are continuing exactly as from creation’s beginning. The wording isn't the same, exactly, but the sentiment is.  (21 hrs ago | post #9)

Jehovah's Witness

Who Really Is the "Faithful and Discreet Slave"?

If you've been following the thread, you must know that I wasn't talking about those men God actually appointed, or was friends with. Anyone can take it upon themselves to warn others about what they've read in the bible. If someone says that they represent God, They should at least be able to show it from scripture, or the message they carry should be verifiable, as is, from scripture. Otherwise, who will listen to them? (meaning Jesus sheep)  (21 hrs ago | post #48)

Jehovah's Witness

Does anyone here believe that this describe conditions to...

just checking. I guess if the faithful slave doesn't say it, it can't be right. Do they allow you to keep up with world news? Just in case? Why is it that you believe your organization is immune? Do you believe Jehovah will protect it?  (21 hrs ago | post #6)

Jehovah's Witness

Who Really Is the "Faithful and Discreet Slave"?

If you would tie these things into this thread a little better for me, I could maybe answer you. I don't see the connection. You could have said Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. they all had personal relationships with God. So please clarify your point for me.  (22 hrs ago | post #42)