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Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

Absolutely none of that stuff is new. Not in the sense that it is totally removed from what was said in the Hebrew. The Messiah is mentioned, The Kingdom of God is mentioned, etc. As far as Satan is concerned, you live in a make believe world, if you think his authority has been ended. What none of you seem to realize, there were many things the Jews knew and believed about the Messiah, and God's Kingdom, based on their bothering to give credence to the Hebrew scriptures. What Jesus said was to them. To them it wasn't new. It may have been different than some of them already believed, but all weren't in darkness. All involved in the Messiah's early life, John the baptists mother and father, others, were aware of what was happening. The only way they would have been aware, is if they payed attention to what the scriptures said regarding such things.  (5 hrs ago | post #162)

Jehovah's Witness

How Many Modern Jews are Actually Israelites?

Well, God bless the trolls.  (Yesterday | post #12)

Jehovah's Witness

How Many Modern Jews are Actually Israelites?

I guess that we will find soon enough who are actually Abraham's descendants through Isaac then Jacob, Israel in God's eyes. As far as those from the nations grafted in, what would they be grafted in to if the tree or vine were completely removed? The parabolic description would be incomplete if it weren't accurate in it's outworking. God won't be fooled at any rate, so what is the importance of the genetic make up?  (Yesterday | post #10)

Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

sounds like you've found a reason to not try, but have to make it look like it's my fault. typical. It's my fault. I asked a tricky question. Do you believe that everything the Witnesses say about the rest of the religions is incorrect? How about Jesus? Is everything they believe about Jesus incorrect? I believe that most of what they say about other religions is true. That's why they get a foot hold in households. They have a lot to work with. The problem is that they too are in error, but people don't look at that right away. people with malleable hearts can be reached with the bible's message, even if comes from one of these less than acceptable religions. Including the one you believe in, if there is one. Whether there is or isn't any truth in your religion, we'll never know, because you never show their beliefs from the bible. It couldn't be any different than the rest, or it wouldn't be my fault that you can't answer this challenge.  (Yesterday | post #159)

Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

Oh, I don't know....hmmm.. nah, I think I'll wait for an opinion other than yours. One with a bit more maturity attached to it. Is that what it is for you? You want the appearance of righteousness, but not the reality. I understand. It's a lot of work to be what you say you are. (you meant in the general everybody sense)  (Tuesday | post #155)

Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

do you understand the concept of....in some fashion? The notion of the Messiah was in the Hebrew scriptures. How it was described for effect, isn't a new teaching. It is a widening of the already established reality. Any explanation of something already existing is not a "new" teaching. Using a metaphor to describe something isn't a new concept, even for you, I'm sure. Look up the meaning of the word.  (Tuesday | post #153)

Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

If it wasn't there already, then it would be new. It wasn't a new teaching, it was a reminder of their obligations. You are just bound and determined to have your way. Is good sense and good judgement appealing to you? If not, then anyone trying to get you to use them will be disappointed.  (Tuesday | post #151)

Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

do you even pay attention to what is being said? how can anyone come to Jesus, unless they know what they are to come to? note "these are the very scriptures that testify about me. " Were they just supposed to take his word for it? Why should they? He is telling them to look at those scriptures and evaluate him based on them. I am recommending that people do the same. Along with much, much more.  (Tuesday | post #149)

Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

I don't know what it takes to get someone to assess the criteria of this particular challenge. It seems everyone, so far, can't just do what it says, or say it can't be done. what's so hard about it? here it is, so no one has to rely on their memory about it. ================== ================== ================== ====== Show a teaching of Jesus, in the Greek scriptures, that is not in the Hebrew scriptures in some fashion. If you cannot, then you cannot show a need to have the Greek scriptures written, other than a historical record of events. It cannot be used as a template, by all the differing religions, of how to worship God acceptably. ================== ================== ================== ====== If someone can show Jesus teaching something that isn't there, in the Hebrew, They can beat the challenge. So far, no one has even tried. Not that they haven't done something, but no one has done what the challenge asks. The first sentence in the bracketed paragraph is the key fellas. It only takes one. For the stubbornly thick, I didn't say teaching in the Hebrew. I said Jesus teaching, but existing in some form in the Hebrew scriptures. In other words, the account of Joseph serves as a model for anyone wishing to do God's will, and not their own. It is a great example of returning good for evil. Even the "do unto others" teaching is a matter of experienced living with the influence of the Hebrew scriptures. God has always returned good for evil. The opposite is destruction. At some point it will get to that.  (Tuesday | post #147)

Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

You two fellas beat me, you surely did. Why, you out "Christianed " me at every turn. The only problem is that you haven't answered the challenge successfully. I guess all of the rowdy commentary, excuse me, Christian commentary, you two have engaged in won't cover that fact. All of your bombast and tub thumping doesn't change that fact.  (Monday Oct 20 | post #144)

Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

Yes, that must be what it is. bad comprehension. I keep telling you the conditions of the challenge, and you keep insisting that it meet your conditions. OK if you can't follow simple instructions, how in the world could you ever be trusted with the truth of the bible.  (Monday Oct 20 | post #138)

Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

Psalm 110 is a heavenly scene regarding an enthroned Jesus. Jesus didn't get to that throne until he died.  (Monday Oct 20 | post #134)

Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

this challenge had a point. The point is that Jesus didn't bring anything new to the table. He came to fulfill.  (Monday Oct 20 | post #133)

Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

1. divorce That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he must stick to his wife and they must become one flesh. There is no divorce allowed for in that verse. Period. 2. love your enemy 21 If the one hating you is hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink. 22 For coals are what you are raking together upon his head, and Jehovah himself will reward you. 3. all food is clean 3 Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you. As in the case of green vegetation, I do give it all to you. 4. all tragedy was caused by Adam 16 And Jehovah God also laid this command upon the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. 17 But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die. From the tree from which I commanded you not to eat have you eaten?” 12 And the man went on to say: “The woman whom you gave to be with me, she gave me [fruit] from the tree and so I ate. 5. return evil with good the example of Joseph toward his brothers consider all of your previously dismissed points, dealt with in the manor you deem necessary. They still aren't valid points.  (Monday Oct 20 | post #130)

Jehovah's Witness

A Challenge !

Another in depth scathing attack on me to hide your own incompetence. because I bring your poor manners to light, no doubt. If you had even a modicum of God's spirit you could tear my assertions apart with his help. The fact that you can't tear them apart means two things. 1. I have God's backing in my message. (otherwise you wouldn't have to resort to personal attacks) 2. You couldn't possibly have God's spirit guiding you, because you've come no where near the appropriate conclusion. If someone were to look at all you've offered in avoiding the simple challenge I've put forth without actually reading the challenge, they couldn't possibly know what I asked for. Oh, they would probably think of the time you spent in making the replies and how much thought you put into them. If only that time had been better spent with a little respect to the original poster. That, or not post at all. You never once have shown anything Jesus taught that wasn't addressed in some way in the Hebrew scriptures. When I've rebuked you, you act like the parameters of the challenge don't count where you're concerned.  (Monday Oct 20 | post #122)