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Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

just follow the next idiot that comes along, I'm sure you'll be better off than you are now. :-)  (6 hrs ago | post #118)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

I don't think I could present it any clearer. If it isn't clear, it is because you aren't looking at what I said and thinking about it. I believe Paul had a good grasp of things. I do not believe people today have that same grasp. Peter pointed out that that same problem was alive and well in his day. The conclusions people draw, today, are the conclusions they feel comfortable with. Putting high sounding names to things, and labeling the differing approaches to theology only serves to bolster the inaccuracy. There are only so many words in the bible, and there are probably just as many differing teachings abut them as there are words. Proverbs 16: 2 All the ways of a man are pure in his own eyes, but Jehovah is making an estimate of spirits. Proverbs 21: 2 Every way of a man is upright in his own eyes, but Jehovah is making an estimate of hearts Proverbs 24: . 12 In case you should say: “Look! We did not know of this,” will not he himself that is making an estimate of hearts discern it, and he himself that is observing your soul know and certainly pay back to earthling man according to his activity? There are many cautions in the bible about handling the word of God properly. I am recommending that you, and others do so. Any religion claiming to have God's approval is built on lies, period. If that is not clear enough, then I guess I don't have your answer.  (8 hrs ago | post #116)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

What I accept is that Paul wrote what he wrote, and if you just take his writings by themselves, you could get a different meaning from it, than if you put it up against the rest of the bible's content, about both God and Jesus. Paul was entirely familiar with that biblical content, and he was familiar with Jesus teachings. So if Paul is considered a faithful witness, there is no way his writings could be at odds with those things, and would have to be in agreement with them. Many teachings about Jesus, originating from the writings of Paul and the others, to the various congregations are wanting because they don't take the bible as a whole. God does not change. His requirements and values are the same today as they were before Jesus came. His sacrifice did not change anything in that regard. That is why it is important to get the whole picture before jumping to conclusions.  (8 hrs ago | post #114)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

basically what I said was..... 2nd Peter 3: 15 Furthermore, consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul according to the wisdom given him also wrote YOU, 16 speaking about these things as he does also in all [his] letters. In them, however, are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unsteady are twisting, as [they do] also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.  (9 hrs ago | post #112)

Jehovah's Witness

Cornnelius was a Christian

To be fair, it isn't stated what became of Cornelius after his and his family's baptism, but here is another scripture that could possibly be used to demonstrate some military service...... Matt 5:41 41 and if someone under authority impresses you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. conscientious objection to the support of war is another matter altogether. If someone's conscience forbids them to do it, then it does. To go against your own conscience is as bad as any other sin. It is a faithless act.  (13 hrs ago | post #2)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

Heb 13:7 7 Remember those who are taking the lead among YOU, who have spoken the word of God to YOU, and as YOU contemplate how [their] conduct turns out imitate [their] faith. Heb 13:17 17 Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among YOU and be submissive, for they are keeping watch over YOUR souls as those who will render an account; that they may do this with joy and not with sighing, for this would be damaging to YOU. It's funny how, in ten verses you've been able to totally change the sense of what is being said, by keeping the earlier one from your post. Which statement do you think is the one controlling the desired action? Acts 15:28, 29 28 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!” Acts 16:4,5 4 Now as they traveled on through the cities they would deliver to those there for observance the decrees that had been decided upon by the apostles and older men who were in Jerusalem. 5 Therefore, indeed, the congregations continued to be made firm in the faith and to increase in number from day to day. Were they giving them anything that they didn't have before? Or were they just clearing up the misguided things that had been spread by some false Apostles? Acts 15: 23, 24 “The apostles and the older men, brothers, to those brothers in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia who are from the nations: Greetings! 24 Since we have heard that some from among us have caused YOU trouble with speeches, trying to subvert YOUR souls, although we did not give them any instructions, I guess is someone carefully avoids the truth of a matter, they can distort the message, don't you think? Just like those men that caused the problems that had to be straightened out, since their claim was that they were sent by the men in Jerusalem. As to the last two, I see nothing worth mention. I don't see anything there saying that those older men had to report back to anyone, as if they were the arms of some "governing body", do you? You still can't show, and every historical document and the scriptures themselves, support the idea of autonomy, as far as men were concerned. Their only allegiance was to God and Jesus, was it not? Do you hang your head in shame, or do you glory in your dishonest nature? Do you think there is no price to pay when you misrepresent God's words? Rev 22:18,19 18 “I am bearing witness to everyone that hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; 19 and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things which are written about in this scroll. does this statement cover only the book of revelation, or do you believe it might cover all of God's words? I'll leave that for you to decide.  (18 hrs ago | post #107)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

unfortunately those are all men's words, carrying the crux of your point.God doesn't change, so whatever was required to please him, was required of those existing before Jesus was ever born. Instead of reading the words of the letters written to the different congregations, and thinking you understand what was being said, limit yourself to Jesus words for a while. He never said the things you are saying. In fact his words directly refute many of the things, as they are taught, that the writers of the so-called new testament say. Instead of taking them as a new idea, why not measure them by the words of Jesus himself, and the words of the so-called "old testament". I think you'll find that someone has cheated you, and it wasn't the bible writers, it was those claiming they understood things that they hadn't a clue about. Jesus has a purpose in God's approach to the redeeming of mankind. His blood undid the sin of Adam, in God's eyes. So, if a person refuses to accept it, they will not get God's approval. But Jesus sacrifice didn't change who and what God is. Neither did it magically change the imperfection of mankind. So, if someone says that they accept Jesus as their savior, yet doesn't meet Godly standards, it is a meaningless gesture. There are things prophesied to occur that will bring that sacrifice to it's final application, but they haven't occurred yet. I think that if you read Jesus' words, you will find that he pointed people to his father, not himself, other than related to his part in the redemption.  (Tuesday | post #86)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

Every journey begins with the first step. It seems you've taken that step a while back. Keep walking that way, and it will be blessed, I am sure. Just my opinion, but if not worth anything to you, it was refreshing to me. thank you for sharing.  (Tuesday | post #83)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

you do it your way, and I'll do it the way Jesus said.... 33 “Keep on, then, seeking first the kingdom and his righteousness, I don't know about you, but it's hard for me to seek something I know nothing about. The only place God's righteousness is found is in scripture. Everything else is just man's ideas. Maybe you've got it instilled from the womb. If you do, you'll be the first one since Jesus.  (Tuesday | post #81)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

what is fun for me, is that of all those refuting my scriptural points on this matter, they are all, without exception, using men's words to do it, not God's words, proving that they are following men. If you have some scripture that you believe is clear in it's meaning, in this matter, and can be proven that it applies to individuals beyond those addressed, bring it on. I am always open to new things. Everything I present is a clear statement, addressing the issue I am addressing. It could be said that it is read with a simple eye. I am pretty sure, because of previous experience with some of you, that you will think, if not say, a simple mind. But that doesn't do anything except belittle and ridicule, and show an unrighteous bent, proving my point. If you can't do it, and your masters can't do it, then perhaps you ought to rethink your position. Or not. believe what you want, God gave you that right when He didn't destroy Adam, Eve, and Satan, immediately.  (Tuesday | post #67)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

Then I guess you are rejecting the notion of you being righteous.  (Tuesday | post #64)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

by whom? If a righteous man read that verse, after having read the rest of the bible, who would he need to discuss it with?  (Tuesday | post #62)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

Read post number 57 (it's short) and answer the question I ended it with, if you can. Then we will talk about your "true religion".  (Tuesday | post #59)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

whatever your definition of religion, it is something devised by man. God didn't seem to need it when dealing with every individual acceptable to him from Adam onward. Able didn't need it, Enoch didn't, Noah didn't, Abraham didn't, Isaac, Jacob, Job, Moses etc. there is no reason for God to have such a thing. Religion became introduced by men who were alienated from God, not those doing his will. Modern religion comes from Babel. How could anyone believe that God would imitate men? It's complete foolishness.  (Tuesday | post #57)

Jehovah's Witness

False religion is ALL religion.

Solomon wrote this, and it seemed important to him.... 27 “See! This I have found,” said the congregator, “one thing [taken] after another, to find out the sum-up, 28 which my soul has continuously sought, but I have not found. One man out of a thousand I have found, but a woman among all these I have not found. 29 See! This only I have found, that the [true] God made mankind upright, but they themselves have sought out many plans.” That is where all religious belief comes from.  (Tuesday | post #54)