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Jehovah's Witness

Letting it all go

Hi guys, just wanting to say hi, let those of you who care know that I'm still alive after going to Haiti and Peru (again). I'm not going to be hanging here much anymore, seems that I've found the meaning of life, mine anyway, and I am going to go live it. I just want you all to know what you have taught me by sharing a bit of yourselves. It's meant a lot to me and you've all participated in helping me grow up whether you knew it or not, at least as much as a 27 year old can. I'm getting married on June 19th, and I'll keep you all in my thoughts, because you all helped me to mature enough to see that it's what I want. I love her more than life and want her with me forever. I hope you all find your peace and live life in a way that gives meaning to you if you haven't already. Thank you. :-)  (Apr 19, 2010 | post #1)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

I don't even know what to think about that person's post. Sickening is right. I do know there are people out there who feel that they are right and everyone else is wrong in many different circumstances, not just religion, but it takes a completely wrong turn when a person takes that and turns it into a scenario where they deserve to live and others who don't agree with them deserve to die. It's just twisted beyond belief to go that far.  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #132)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

Well, hi there EE. As you can see in my post, I was asking questions about that persons experiences. I wasn't agreeing with them about it. I do think it's a fair statement to say that God does not agree with people who hold that view about their fellow humans just because they aren't in the same religion as you. I do believe that there are good people everywhere that will help in times of tragedy. I've seen it. I never wonder what religion they are because it doesn't matter to me. I'm always just so glad to see such outstanding support of people who need help. The person who wrote that disgusting post about how JW's supposedly feel about non-JW's either wants people to think you guys really feel that way when you don't or is being brutally honest. Either way, it was a pretty sick thing to say. And, yeah, I agree with you. The only way for me to know what a person or group of people are like is to get to know them personally. there's way too much emotional stuff going on here on this forum to know anything for sure.  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #130)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

Looks like it, dude. :-) All I can say is that was the best laugh I've had all day, so I'll take it. Laughing is good for the immune system. ;-)  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #117)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

ROFLMAO!!!! OMG! LOLOLOL Okay, will do. Thanks for the advice. LOL  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #113)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

JW's really feel this way? That people who aren't JW's are already dead? That they are not worth helping if they aren't in the "group"? That their suffering doesn't matter to God if they aren't a JW? I'd sure hate to think that any christian group believes that. I don't think that a loving God would agree with that line of thinking. There are lots of JW's who come on here and disagree with that, it's hard to know who's telling the truth. I was pretty sure that guy was just being a jerk.  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #112)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

Dude... Just for kicks, lets say you really are a JW who is currently in good standing in your congregation...do you believe that there are any fellow JW's that would agree with you posting this vile crap on here for everyone to see? Do you honestly believe that what you wrote makes anyone feel like checking out the JW religion to actually become one? In case you do not know the answer to that question, it's NO. If what you wrote is actually a JW belief, then it makes me want to run the other way. That post makes it look like JW's are the most egomaniacal, twisted creeps around. You do realize that there are real people in Haiti right now that have died, are dying as we speak, or are severly injured, lost family members, friends and animals, not to mention homes and all other possessions because of this earthquake, right. Not good joke material.  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #111)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

Hi Karen, thanks. I'll be extremely careful. I always am. You can't help other people if you're hurt yourself. :-) I think this world would be a totally cool place to be if everyone would freely give whatever they could to help others. It doesn't matter if it's time, money, prayer, whatever. If everyone would do it, life would be much better for all. I never get why people make excuses to not help others when they are in need. Some reasons just don't fly, like being a different religion than the person who needs help. That's a lot of hooey. We all live on this planet together, there is no real seperation. We're all connected by just being conscious beings, don't people realize that when someone else is hurting and it is ignored, it hurts them too? The collective suffering on this planet right now is a living thing, it's that huge. Sorry, I'm off on a tangent. It's just that when a tragedy of this magnitude happens, there should be no thought of "if" we should help, just "how". That's my opinion.  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #93)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

The only JW's I know are the ones on this DB. I don't know what that says to you. Glad you were helped by the JW's, that's a testament in it's own right. And as for me helping families in need...I do it all the time. If I know about someone and I can help, I do. I'm waiting right now to get permission to go to Haiti. All I'm saying on this thread is that help should have no strings attatched. If JW's help non-JW's with no strings attatched, that's the coolest thing ever.  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #76)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

And, you know, I'm not trying to be an ass about this. I am just thinking bout those poor people who have already been living under terrible conditions for so long. And now, they've been driven right to their knees by this earthquake. I just can't handle the idea that people are going there with an agenda. If people go, they should just go with helping in mind, that's my opinion. I did not say and I'm not saying now that JW's will go there to try and make more JW's. I am pissed at what Pat Robertson said about the Haitians and I think that just because their main religion iS Voodoo should not play any part in what type of help they receive. That's a lot of judgement to heap on someone, and it's not right. I couldn't believe those words came out of a so-called "christian ". Pretty sad.  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #53)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

I certianly am NOT being flippant about God. I just don't think that religious people should take advantage of a crisis to build their ranks. If someone, on their own, turns to God in times like this and asks for help in that way, cool. Go for it. But if they don't, now is not the time to push it on them. There ARE people out there who take advantage of people that are in this type of terrible situation. I don't know if JW's are among those that would do that or not, and I never said they do it, all I said is that now is time for action to help these people get what they need in a physical way first and foremost. Comfort comes to them in the way of help financially, structurally and medically, not just words.  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #49)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

Nope. I didn't say that either. I was responding to something that someone else said.  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #46)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

Hey Joe. I'm not picking on JW's, honest. It's just that when people say that an organization is helping people who have suffered a huge tragedy, I would hope that they mean in a tangible way. Spreading the word of God is fine, but it needs to be accompanied by help that makes a difference at the moment. I have seen several times on this board where JW's go and personally help people in need. That's cool. I just hope that the organization as a whole is out there to help people too, and not just JW's. In times of need, like this, we as a part of the human race, should all rally around and help those who are in dire need of assistance. I really don't care if it's publicized or not, and I'm sure the people who are hurting don't care either. Personally, I'm waiting to catch a flight myself to go and help out where I can, anyone else who can do that should do it, if they can't go, they should donate money if they can, or just pray for these poor people who need all we can give.  (Jan 14, 2010 | post #24)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

I sure hope you aren't putting me in the category of "some of you". There is no bias here, just a sincere desire to help people who have been dealt a near killing blow. Those people need REAL and SUBSTANTIAL help, not a "message " to make them feel better. There is a real need to help these poor people, if the WTS is able, they should get over there with people and supplies to help. Otherwise, it's just a lot of crap. Nobody there wants to hear that God knows what they are suffering, they want someone to dig their loved ones out from under the rubble. They want someone to give them water and food, they want someone to stitch up their wounds or set broken bones. They want HELP. They need it. What they don't need right now is to hear that the END is near. For them, the end is HERE!  (Jan 14, 2010 | post #17)

Jehovah's Witness

Jehovah's Witnesses, offer to assist in Haiti.

I'll be interested to see what "practical help" they provide as opposed to "spiritual comfort". Those people need real help right now and not just words. People, donate if you can. Help these people in the way that really matters right now. I kow that spiritual help is cool, but these people need water, food and medical supplies right now. Telling them about the "New Order" isn't going t mean squat right now.  (Jan 14, 2010 | post #5)

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