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Worthless Ethiopian Maid Set Free From Her Arab Masters.

The pakistanis accepted it, as per your own statement from earlier on. I don't think the laws in Dubai are like that as much matters are just dropped to save face when possible. Im sure the statutes prescribe the death penalty for such crimes.  (4 hrs ago | post #53)

Ethiopia

Worthless Ethiopian Maid Set Free From Her Arab Masters.

That's terrible. Especially in this instance where blood money essentially financed another victim  (7 hrs ago | post #51)

Ethiopia

Man shackles girl with dogs for 18 years

18 years of rape is beyond a little TLC. She is likely to be a dependant her whole life.  (7 hrs ago | post #62)

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Worthless Ethiopian Maid Set Free From Her Arab Masters.

I think the fact that you can pay yoru way out of such crimes is more a comment on how shitty Emritees can be to their servants than how their servants are.  (Tuesday | post #39)

Ethiopia

Man shackles girl with dogs for 18 years

the pictures were taken by my friends brother and emailed to me, so i have no link. What can be seen is that her back is hunched over like someone much older than she is. her hair is short in an an afro (like 2 inches long). her face is heavily scarred and very uneven looking if you know what i mean (it looks like one side is swollen, but i think thats just how she looks). Apparently, her hands are quite damaged too, but I can't see that in the pictures I have. Im trying to get some newspaper articles about her so that I can share them, although they would be PDFs and I'm sure they would be in Amharic, so someone on here who can read it can translate.  (Tuesday | post #60)

Ethiopia

Man shackles girl with dogs for 18 years

No, and I doubt she will ever get the counselling she needs. I think turning her into a semi-functioning adult will be an issue. I've been told she's been profiled in local news (which we don't get). My contact sent me photographs of her, which were pretty sad.  (Monday Dec 7 | post #57)

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Man shackles girl with dogs for 18 years

I think I've found the woman (she's not a girl at this point). I put my significant other on the case. She works at a USAID station in Addis, and I asked her to see if she could find out something about the location of the girl. Her name is Meskerem, and from what i can see from her photos, she looks like someone who is both physically scarred and aged from the ordeal as well as being a not too trusting soul. I think I'll keep you all abreast of what her situation is as i hear more. Right now all I know is that she's 25 and doesn't speak too much.  (Friday Dec 4 | post #55)

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what the difference between occupation and colonization ?

The italians couldn't stay because they collapsed with the other Axis powers. Those that tried to stay would have been murdered. that doesn't tell us what happened economically in the occupation period.  (Friday Dec 4 | post #43)

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what the difference between occupation and colonization ?

I don't think anything. I don't know the history well enough, thats pecisely the point i'm making. If you say a majority of historians say something, then cite one. thats how real knowledge is attained. I believe there was no successful colony built, but i don't know that for sure, I only believe that based on the short duration of the occupation as well as the problems italy had going on in europe.  (Friday Dec 4 | post #42)

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what the difference between occupation and colonization ?

This is a good argument, but you need to back up your sources the same as anyone. Namely, support the contention that there was no control of the zones (or effectively limited control) by the italians. Were some zones safer than others? did some zones produce for italy while others were pure chaso?  (Thursday Dec 3 | post #27)

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what the difference between occupation and colonization ?

Some of this makes sense and some of it is bollocks. It doesn't matter if some international group recognizes ownership of the territory, it only matters what you do within it. Its not a settled question on here yet whether ethiopia was a functioning colony or merely held territory. It doesn't matte what italies ambitions are, in matters what italy got out of it. The armed resistance angle is important because a territory where people haven't capitiulated to the occuppiers on some signifcant level isn't a functioning colony. Italy has to be able to get something out if it, not just keep sinking money in it. colonization is a capitalist enterprise, meaning italy has to be investing to get something more out of the deal. As for the last point, your argument goes from something interesting to plain old named calling based on your own hatred. A lightly armed african nation falling victim to a huge arm of one of the fiercest military alliances ever is not the most embarassing defeat ever, its what you would expect to happen. An embarassing defeat is the vietnemese chasing out the US, or afghans chasing out the USSR. A big power stomping on a smaller power is nothing unexpected. Furthermore, if ethiopia's defeat was a humiliation, what would a few decades of italian colonization mean for eritrea then? If ethiopia was raped by italy, then eritrea was gang sodomized by Italy over and over again.  (Thursday Dec 3 | post #26)

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what the difference between occupation and colonization ?

I haven't talked to FB in a couple of weeks, but she'll email me when she wants to chat.  (Thursday Dec 3 | post #25)

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what the difference between occupation and colonization ?

England colonized the east cost of north america while still being embroiled in fighting with the natives. The fighting continued after the US split away from England, and continued right until the entire continent was overtaken by force in the south, and by questionable treaties in the North (Canada). Its important to note how much resistence was faced. Was it enough to stop things from being done by the Italians? Was it just a nuisance? something in between? Also, what was the nature of economic relationships between the italy and what it controlled within ethiopia. Were the italians making money on the deal or where they scrambling to hold onto the territory they had. Also, and this is a what if questions, were the italians driven out mostly because of native resistence to their encrochment, or were they unable to maintain their presence because they were getting killed at home and couldn't support their "investment "?  (Thursday Dec 3 | post #24)

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what the difference between occupation and colonization ?

the issue interests me so i post on it. I just don't want to get mixed up in the high school drama that for some reason happens on here. Also, thanks.  (Thursday Dec 3 | post #23)

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what the difference between occupation and colonization ?

First it says religious and/or legal systems, so it could mean religious, relgious plus legal, or legal. It doesn't mean that religious or legal has to be included. secondly, i don't know why you think i would be dissapointed if it was declared a colony or not a colony. it makes no difference to me other than as an academic exercise. Now the fact that you have done a tiny bit of research is good, but do some more and post your results. Also another weakness in your argument. Soldiers count as Italians. if soldiers started running a gold mine for example, and forced the locals to work in it, would we say it's not a colony because it wasn't an italian citizen who made the economic relationship work? Thats pretty much nonesense. Also, a possibility which hasnt been considered on here is that part of ethiopia could be a colony, while another part or parts resisted. Since one of the other posters has demonstrated that the italians broke ethiopia into administrative sections, perhaps this third way is the case (again i don't know im just playing devils advocate). The point about the italian language being imprinted on ethiopia is somewhat important, though it doesn't settle the question either way. The most apparent evidence i can see of italian on ethiopian society is the letter combination of gn making the nya sound in english.  (Wednesday Dec 2 | post #15)