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Florissant, MO

Let's talk about guns...legal ones that is

My comment was directed more towards the OP, becuase it is a misconception I see all too often. People often mistakenly assosciate tiny guns with tiny recoil; tiny guns aften "feel" less intimidating. Unfortunately, they are very unpleasantly surprised at the "zap" and the muzzle flip when they fire those little pocket pistols for the first time. I have seen a fair amount of dimure women who channel their inner Dirty Harry very well. The OP stated he was entertaining trading off the Judge for an ultra-light. With a hot .38 round, he may be disappointed to find that ultralight even more of a handful than the .45 LC rounds from the Judge. My statements about DAO pistols were only because everyone is used to striker fired pistols these days, and less and less people know how to accurately fire a DAO because they have never learned how to deal with the trigger pull. I don't think there is a thing wrong with DAO pistols, and there isn't any reason they can't double-tap just as well as a Glock 17, but they are different. I see a fair amount of people who aren't "old timers" or enthusiasts like myself, who don't know how to shoot them, and then blame the gun when they can't hit anything with it (even though the gun is not to blame).  (Mar 5, 2013 | post #33)

Florissant, MO

Let's talk about guns...legal ones that is

I think he was using vernacular. In the gun world, when we spread a pattern of shot all over something from a shotgun round, we say we "peppered " it with shot. I'm not a personal fan of shooting a .410 through a pistol barrel. Inside of 5 feet, you can knock someone out of their shoes. At 25 feet, you have lost most of your shot pattern, and it isn't nearly as effective. The snub nosed .357s are the same way. Out of a 4"+ barrel, a .357 is the Hammer of Thor. Out of a snub, the .357 actually packs less punch than a sub-compact 9mm. Handguns are about trade offs. What you gain in one category, you will almost always lose in another. You want "small" and "concealable " you will lose balistics. You want a heavy caliber, you will lose ammo capacity. You want full-capacity, and big caliber, and you will most likely be looking at a full framed weapon and will lose "concealabili ty". I'm not trying to imply you made a bad choice. The great thing about firearms is that there are so many good options available, there is something for everyone, and you don't have to like what I like.  (Mar 5, 2013 | post #30)

Florissant, MO

Let's talk about guns...legal ones that is

I'm going to disagree with you on principle, hardhead. Your situational awareness is your first line of defense. It is always better to avoid a dangerous situation than to have survived one. Every once in a while I hear someone say they would never go "wherever ", unless they had a gun. My response is always that if they can't go somewhere without a gun, they shouldn't go there at all. I do agree that a weapon doesn't do you any good if it isn't within reach.  (Mar 5, 2013 | post #28)

Florissant, MO

Let's talk about guns...legal ones that is

Don't make the mistake of thinking just because a weapon is smaller, it is easier to handle. Laws of physics make those small pistols (like the .380 Ruger LCP) mighty snappy, and you may be surprised how much a little more weight can absorb recoil. As far as caliber and accuracy goes, almost no handgun outside of a magnum is going to be accurate out to 50 yards; they aren't designed to be. Handguns are designed to be used within 20 feet. ALL handguns, except the magnums, are underpowered, and when you look at the ballistic effects on soft tissue anything from a 9mm on up will pretty much perform equally. Semi-auto versus revolver is a never ending argument. They both have merits, and drawbacks. Most double action only revolvers do not have an external safety; they DO have a trigger pull that is about 3 days long to compensate for this. That may be a factor because in this day and age when everyone has a Glock, I have seen a lot of shooters who are dead on with a semi-auto who couldn't hit water if they were shooting through the bottom of a boat if you hand them a DAO revolver. Practice, practice, and practice some more. And, if you are not familiar with firearms, get some real training so you are not simply practicing to reinforce your self-taught bad habits. A weapon for personal defense is a personal decision, and the number one factor that needs to be satisfied is that the person who will carry it is comfortable with it. Three hits with a .22 is a whole lot better than 8 misses with a .45.  (Mar 5, 2013 | post #27)

Florissant, MO

They ARE talking about confiscating guns

District 69 is far from being a "minority area". I don't dispute the influences you cite, but, the system is only as corrupt as we allow it to be. The empirical "they" (the handlers as you call them) are only as powerful as we allow them to be by allowing their puppets to stay in office.  (Feb 18, 2013 | post #10)

Florissant, MO

They ARE talking about confiscating guns

Also, apparently they HAVE been contacted, and now they are whining about their less-than-receptiv e constituency. http://www.kmov.co m/news/editors-pic k/Missouri-lawmake rs-feeling-heat-af ter-proposed-assau lt-weapons-ban-191 344621.html They just can't understand how people get so testy just because they want to "start a discussion" about unlawful seizure of property, post-facto criminalization, and infringing on the right to bear arms. When will the subjects learn their place and fall into line?  (Feb 17, 2013 | post #6)

Florissant, MO

They ARE talking about confiscating guns

I already contacted all four. Here is the response I received, verbatim and in its entirety, from one of the co-sponsors: "Missouri has a super majority Republican Legislature. The bill is NOT going to be referred to a Committee to be heard or voted upon by the Legislators and if it does, somehow get referred...it would NOT have the votes to pass" So they all but admitted this is pure political posturing. I am still absolutely under-amused. Are there any volunteers that live in or around District 69? If so, contact me via private message, because I am trying to organize a leaflet campaign to make sure that every residence in that district knows that Margo McNeil co-sponsored this legislation.  (Feb 17, 2013 | post #5)

Florissant, MO

They ARE talking about confiscating guns

This bill was introduced by Rory Ellinger (U-City), and co-=sponsored by: Jill Schupp (Creve Coeur), Margo McNeil (Florissant's finest - district 69), and Rochelle Walton Gray. All of these individuals can be contacted via email. rory.ellinger at house.mo.gov jill.schupp at house.mo.gov margo.mcneil at house.mo.gov rochelle.gray at house.mo.gov  (Feb 17, 2013 | post #3)

Florissant, MO

They ARE talking about confiscating guns

Bump...This thread immediately disappeared from existence after creation. A post I had made in another thread containing this same information is completely absent from view. The thread goes from post #1 to post #3. Is someone scrubbing these threads?  (Feb 17, 2013 | post #2)

Florissant, MO

Nationwide Ammunition Shortage

There is a shortage of reloading supplies as well. Primers and most common caliber bullets aren't much easier to find.  (Feb 14, 2013 | post #7)

Florissant, MO

What happens to the Bodyguard?

The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.  (Dec 22, 2010 | post #28)

Florissant, MO

What happened to Poo Taco, Solidary Canid & Redneck Politics

"That which we call a rose, by any other name, would smell as sweet."  (Dec 22, 2010 | post #26)

Florissant, MO

What happened to Poo Taco, Solidary Canid & Redneck Politics

This was my instantaneous thought...  (Dec 19, 2010 | post #18)