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Scabies

Post-Scabies Treatment Eczema

I too experienced things similar to Fellow Sufferer. It is really hard to believe you arent infested once you are cured. I have gone through almost everything listed on these forums, and spent a lot time going through the scientific literature. Also just just recently I had a chance to meet with one of Australia's foremost experts on the subject. I have posted my whole story and my aggressive treatment plan in greate detail. I have summarized some of the most insightful of the research I read. I have posted my experience with post scabies/post treatment. And I just added some details about my meeting with the parasitologist I mentioned above. This is all posted on Progress' Scabies Forum. A lot of what I say on it may fly in the face of what some other people here believe and what you may actually be sensing yourselves. So take it or leave it, but I recommend at least reading it because there is a lot of stuff on there that no one else has discussed or mentioned on any of these other forums. Goodbye and good luck. Progress  (Sep 24, 2007 | post #17)

Scabies

In need of help

Hello everyone. I have been cured now for about two months at least (probably much longer). Thanks for all the info everyone has given me. I have gone through almost everything listed on these forums, and spent a lot time going through the scientific literature. Also just just recently I had a chance to meet with one of Australia's foremost experts on the subject. I have posted my whole story and my aggressive treatment plan in greate detail. I have summarized some of the most insightful of the research I read. I have posted my experience with post scabies/post treatment. And I just added some details about my meeting with the parasitologist I mentioned above. This is all posted on Progress' Scabies Forum. A lot of what I say on it may fly in the face of what some other people here believe and what you may actually be sensing yourselves. So take it or leave it, but I recommend at least reading it because there is a lot of stuff on there that no one else has discussed or mentioned on any of these other forums. Goodbye and good luck. Progress  (Sep 24, 2007 | post #126)

Scabies

Questions For Sam

Hello everyone. I have been cured now for about two months at least (probably much longer). Thanks for all the info everyone has given me. I have gone through almost everything listed on these forums, and spent a lot time going through the scientific literature. Also just just recently I had a chance to meet with one of Australia's foremost experts on the subject. I have posted my whole story and my aggressive treatment plan in greate detail. I have summarized some of the most insightful of the research I read. I have posted my experience with post scabies/post treatment. And I just added some details about my meeting with the parasitologist I mentioned above. This is all posted on Progress' Scabies Forum. A lot of what I say on it may fly in the face of what some other people here believe and what you may actually be sensing yourselves. So take it or leave it, but I recommend at least reading it because there is a lot of stuff on there that no one else has discussed or mentioned on any of these other forums. Goodbye and good luck. Progress  (Sep 24, 2007 | post #273)

Scabies

Scabies won't go away

Hello everyone. I have been cured now for about two months at least (probably much longer). Thanks for all the info everyone has given me. I have gone through almost everything listed on these forums, and spent a lot time going through the scientific literature. Also just just recently I had a chance to meet with one of Australia's foremost experts on the subject. I have posted my whole story and my aggressive treatment plan in greate detail. I have summarized some of the most insightful of the research I read. I have posted my experience with post scabies/post treatment. And I just added some details about my meeting with the parasitologist I mentioned above. This is all posted on Progress' Scabies Forum. A lot of what I say on it may fly in the face of what some other people here believe and what you may actually be sensing yourselves. So take it or leave it, but I recommend at least reading it because there is a lot of stuff on there that no one else has discussed or mentioned on any of these other forums. Goodbye and good luck. Progress  (Sep 24, 2007 | post #297)

Scabies

Scabies is Highly Contagious 2

Hello everyone. I have been cured now for about two months at least (probably much longer). Thanks for all the info everyone has given me. I have gone through almost everything listed on these forums, and spent a lot time going through the scientific literature. Also just just recently I had a chance to meet with one of Australia's foremost experts on the subject. I have posted my whole story and my aggressive treatment plan in greate detail. I have summarized some of the most insightful of the research I read. I have posted my experience with post scabies/post treatment. And I just added some details about my meeting with the parasitologist I mentioned above. This is all posted on Progress' Scabies Forum. A lot of what I say on it may fly in the face of what some other people here believe and what you may actually be sensing yourselves. So take it or leave it, but I recommend at least reading it because there is a lot of stuff on there that no one else has discussed or mentioned on any of these other forums. Goodbye and good luck. Progress  (Sep 24, 2007 | post #704)

Scabies

Scabies Is Highly Contagious

Hello everyone. I have been cured now for about two months at least (probably much longer). Thanks for all the info everyone has given me. I have gone through almost everything listed on these forums, and spent a lot time going through the scientific literature. Also just just recently I had a chance to meet with one of Australia's foremost experts on the subject. I have posted my whole story and my aggressive treatment plan in greate detail. I have summarized some of the most insightful of the research I read. I have posted my experience with post scabies/post treatment. And I just added some details about my meeting with the parasitologist I mentioned above. This is all posted on Progress' Scabies Forum. A lot of what I say on it may fly in the face of what some other people here believe and what you may actually be sensing yourselves. So take it or leave it, but I recommend at least reading it because there is a lot of stuff on there that no one else has discussed or mentioned on any of these other forums. Goodbye and good luck. Progress  (Sep 24, 2007 | post #5585)

Scabies

am i in post scabies?

Hello everyone. I have been cured now for about two months at least (probably much longer). Thanks for all the info everyone has given me. I have gone through almost everything listed on these forums, and spent a lot time going through the scientific literature. Also just just recently I had a chance to meet with one of Australia's foremost experts on the subject. I have posted my whole story and my aggressive treatment plan in greate detail. I have summarized some of the most insightful of the research I read. I have posted my experience with post scabies/post treatment. And I just added some details about my meeting with the parasitologist I mentioned above. This is all posted on Progress' Scabies Forum. A lot of what I say on it may fly in the face of what some other people here believe and what you may actually be sensing yourselves. So take it or leave it, but I recommend at least reading it because there is a lot of stuff on there that no one else has discussed or mentioned on any of these other forums. Goodbye and good luck. Progress  (Sep 24, 2007 | post #3)

Scabies

I am Cured

Hello everyone. I have been cured now for about two months at least (probably much longer). Thanks for all the info everyone has given me. I have gone through almost everything listed on these forums, and spent a lot time going through the scientific literature. Also just just recently I had a chance to meet with one of Australia's foremost experts on the subject. I have posted my whole story and my aggressive treatment plan in greate detail. I have summarized some of the most insightful of the research I read. I have posted my experience with post scabies/post treatment. And I just added some details about my meeting with the parasitologist I mentioned above. This is all posted on Progress' Scabies Forum. A lot of what I say on it may fly in the face of what some other people here believe and what you may actually be sensing yourselves. So take it or leave it, but I recommend at least reading it because there is a lot of stuff on there that no one else has discussed or mentioned on any of these other forums. Goodbye and good luck. Progress  (Sep 24, 2007 | post #178)

Scabies

Progress' Scabies Forum

Also I had a personal meeting with one of Australia's foremost experts on parasitology, who also just met with another one of Australia foremost experts. He specializes in scabies and has published articles on the subject. He told me: 1) Despite what a patient may percieve sensation wise, mites cannot penetrate thickly callused skin such as the soles of you feet or other callused areas. 2) Drug resistance is extremely rare! He has only seen a few cases and they have been in Aboriginal communities where it is endemic and people have been treated for years but still constantly re-exposed. 3) Skin scapings are not sensitive at all. Only a very experienced laboratory tech will be able to find evidence of live mites. 4) Persistanly high eosinophilia in the blood is not specific and often is related to an allergy being present. 5) Healthy people will sometimes develop crusted scabies as well (not just immune compromised). 6) In his experience, reinfestation is almost always due to reinfestation form another person.  (Sep 24, 2007 | post #76)

Scabies

Progress' Scabies Forum

A couple notes on post scabies ande post treatment: For me it felt just like active infestation. Exactly like it! Only the longer you are off treatment the better it gets. I even got new bumps for about 2-3 days after i stopped treatment. One of the drugs.. I cant remember if it was permethrin (i think) or ivermectin acts by being toxic to dopamine neurons. It is safe for humans because it doesnt cross the blood brain barrier well, but there are dopamine neurons peripherally as well. I theorized that some of the post treament itching might be due to damaged dopamine neurons in the body. L-Tyrosine is the precursor for dopamine. I thought that if i started supplementing with this it might diminish the itching I was getting from the post treatment. L-Tyrosine seemed to help with post scabies itching: I dont know if it was coincidence (or placebo) as it was at about one month after ceasing treatment, however taking L-Tyrosine (morning on and empty stomach) seemed to really help with the itching. Maybe some other people with post scabies should try it as well and see if it helps them.  (Sep 24, 2007 | post #75)

Scabies

Progress' Scabies Forum

Well this is gonna be my last post update. The rest of the details of my story are earlier in this thread. I have now been scabies free for two months. I stopped treatment when I realized it was impossible that there could be any live mites left on me. At that time I still had every symptom of a current infection. The first two weeks were the hardest because I still had every symptom I had before. Deep boring itching, biting pin pricks even new bumps. I did two "just in case treatments" at five and ten days consisting of two days of ivermectin and BB & 5% TTO. I didnt shower at all during those two day periods. After the treaments symptoms came back full blast including pin pricks, , crawling and deep itching. I had many freak outs during this time but resisted treament. After about three days of no treament pin pricks diminished and deep itching was transient and migratory. Felt the same but if you itch it goes away and doesnt come back in the same spot for a a day or few. Now two months later I still feel crawling every once and a while and the itching comes back if I use anything slightly aggravating on my skin eg. tea tree soap, antibacterial soap, alcohol hand wash. I just washed my cutting boards with bleach and my hands are litching like crazy. Basically I have given myself eczema I think. I know most of you won't believe me on this but if you have been treating heavily for several weeks or months... YOU WILL NOT SUBJECTIVELY KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN CURED!  (Sep 24, 2007 | post #74)

Scabies

Progress' Scabies Forum

Congrats! I know exactly how you feel. I ended my 2 week intensive treatment 2 weeks ago now. I'm doing two, two day safety treatments. About to start my last one. Then im not touching any more meds at all. It is crazy how much itching I still have. The pinpricks only return after treatemnts and only last a few days and the itching is transient and never stays in the same spot unlike before. No skin signs at all. Everytime I itch i get scared again though. i Just try to remember you really only have to be free of mites for 3-7 days and the ones in your environment will all be dead. It will be nice in a couple months when this is all over. People like us have been treating so long I worry the post effects may take months to get over. I went drinking last night. Im mildly allergic to the yeast (or gluten?) in beer as is. Today my itching was so much worse than before. But still not the same character as before. Thanks for the link. That concurs with that other study (the graph is my profile pic). I have been advocating fatty meals and grapefruit juice for a while now. Tell me BT hen you stopped treatment did you feel cured?  (Aug 18, 2007 | post #72)

Scabies

Scabies is Highly Contagious 2

I changed my profile picture to show the effect of eating a fatty meal on ivermectin absorption. Hopefully you can click on it and see it up close. The upper line shows plasma concentration whe you take iver with a fatty meal. The lower line shows plasm concentration on an empty stomach. Hope this helps.  (Aug 17, 2007 | post #565)

Scabies

Scabies is Highly Contagious 2

Don't stress. 10x your recomended dose has been shown to be perefectly safe (but not advised). I took about a double dose for continuous 6 days straight an only felt lethargic that's it. I would have to disagree with the label, and general consensus on this board, a greasy meal will significantly increase the amount of iver that makes it into your blood and thusly onto your skin (where you want it). It is still absorbed well on an empty stomach though, but only about half as well. Best way to keep iver dose on your skin high for a prolonged period is: 1) Take with oily/fatty food 2) Drink Grapefruit juice 4x/day for about two days after dosing 3) Don't shower or cleanse your skin  (Aug 17, 2007 | post #564)

Scabies

Progress' Scabies Forum

I never treated my workplace. I never at any point considered it a major risk (im on my feet almost all day). You don't need to treat your house at all when you return. Crank your heat before you leave. Read back a bit (1st page maybe) and i list survival times at different temperatures. Even if you dont leave, the hotter your house the faster they die. Before I got out, i was sparaying, vacuuming, washing, drying, ironing, like mad. And i didn't think it was doing anything. However in retrospect I now realize what I was using as feedback as to what was working (body sensations) was completely unreliable. You will save yourself a lot of grief if you take to heart what i wrote about post scabies and post treatment. I am still convinced ther are a lot of people on here that are already cured and probably have been for months. I felt fully infested when i stopped treating and did for several days, but each day gets better (unless i retreat -- then it feels like im infested again for a couple days -- even pinpricks!)  (Aug 16, 2007 | post #66)