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South Boston, VA

Do you agree with the Sheetz findings?

This is a NATIONAL forum. I think a lot of people are tuning into this topic because it is so popular. There is video of it. That video is on You Tube!! People are weighing in and I think it is an accurate reflection of what people really think.  (Aug 19, 2008 | post #7)

South Boston, VA

Thread for apologies from those criticizing Deputy Lewis

Justifying Seamster's actions will not make your life choices okay. If you are doing drugs, buying drugs or dealing drugs....that will catch up with you. It is illegal to do any of these things and breaking the law carries consequences. Seamster, we all know now, was not a positively-contrib uting member of society. He ran from the law at Sheetz, it appears he ran from the law at that shoplifting incident, and it appears he actually may have broken into someone's house. People do these types of things because they have serious drug addictions. I am betting marijuana was only the tip of his addiction iceberg. Bob and Shadow and City Girl....you are all obviously friends or family of Seamster. You, perhaps, do drugs too. Perhaps now is the time to rethink YOUR lives. Maybe that is the reason behind all of this. Perhaps one of you was destined to do something great in this world and the choices you have made in this life (drugs, theft, etc.....) are inhibiting you from doing what you were put on this Earth to do. It makes no sense to waste all this time on this topic. There is a system of checks in balances in place that protects citizens from dishonest civil servants. That system, administered by ELECTED officials, found the officers to be in the clear. Deal with it and move the F on. Pursuing a retarded lawsuit so that someone can get rich off of his death is, in my opinion, a complete waste of taxpayer dollars. I didn't pay taxes into the Halifax County coffer so that his ridiculous family could live it up for the rest of their lives. His family raised their son poorly. POORLY. They raised him in a manner that caused him to have NO RESPECT for laws or officers of the law. They raised him to do drugs. They raised him to steal. He got caught doing these things and kept on doing them because no one, personally, was holding him accountable. If that had been my son....it would have been TAKEN CARE OF the very first time it happened. If they file a lawsuit against those officers it will be a clear cut case of abusing the system and GREED. And if that happens it will be apparant that the proveribal apple did not fall too far from the tree.  (Aug 19, 2008 | post #36)

South Boston, VA

Deadly Shooting At Sheetz In South Boston

This is just such a stupid debate. Seamster was a druggy who tried to run away from the police. Police shot him because his aggressive reaction provoked a reasonable reaction from the police....Seamster could have and would have hurt someone with that reaction. This all happened in one minute. These officers did not have the time to THINK...only to react with the instincts that they had as narcotics officers. Seamster, too, didn't have time to think and he, too, reacted with his own insticts....the instincts of a criminal. Sorry he is dead but I don't think his death is worth all of this. His family and friends just want to stir it all up so they can milk the proverbial cow and get rich off of some trumped up BULLSH*T lawsuit. I have no patience for lazy, system-abusing druggies. Get off your butt, get a job, CONTRIBUTE to the society you live in....stop milking it. He broke the law and put other people in a lot of danger and he got shot. Actions have consequences. Moral of the story: OBEY THE LAW.  (Aug 19, 2008 | post #157)

South Boston, VA

Do you agree with the Sheetz findings?

I work from home, only two PCs and it didn't even occur to me to vote more than once. But thanks for your brightening all of our days with your fabulous paranoia, Citygirl!!  (Aug 19, 2008 | post #5)

South Boston, VA

Police justified in deadly South Boston shooting

Shadow....you sound like a whiny little brat. Your friend was a druggy and a criminal. He could have still been alive today but he chose to make really stupid, drug-influenced decisions. I know you are sad. But, not one of those police officers really would have cared about Seamster had he not been doing something so BLATANTLY illegal right in front of them. Pretty sure those undercover guys were more about the bigger fish in the proverbial drug pond. But to have turned a blind eye or let him escape would have been negligent on their part. He was on no one's radar before all of this. Just another small time criminal headed for some serious time, eventually, at the State Penn. Probably sooner than later. Those officers didn't want to shoot him. But they didn't want to see him run anyone over or have to witness a 6 car pileup on southbound 501, either. Your friend was screwed up. Strung out, hopped up, bad news. You and your camp could have tried to help Seamster out....get him to quit the drugs and walk down a more positive path. You didn't. You are not responsible for his death. Likewise, none of us on here are responsible for those officers' shooting him. I am pretty sure we would have ALL done the exact same thing if we had been in the same situation.  (Aug 17, 2008 | post #23)

South Boston, VA

Deadly Shooting At Sheetz In South Boston

You know what, Shadow. If you had REALLY cared about Seamster you would have helped him turn his life around BEFORE it came to this. Instead you let him break the law time and time again, continue to abuse drugs and waste what little money he probably had on his addictions. THAT is not friendship or love. It isn't. This guy OBVIOUSLY had problems and it angers me to hear all this Monday morning quarterbacking coming from the Seamster camp. Where were his friends and family when he was still alive?? Were they trying to help him get his life turned around or were they sitting right there with him asking for someone to pass the bong. I am sure he had redeeming qualities. Everyone does. But I'd like to hear about how you tried to get him to turn his life around, how his family and other friends did. When you have a friend you should try to do what is best for them. Watching someone you "love" throw their life down the toilet and idly watching as they engage in criminal and socially-repugnant behaviors is NOT friendship, not love. You are just here for the attention, I think. If you really loved this guy you would be out in your community making sure this doesn't happen to some other young punk walking down the same road.  (Aug 17, 2008 | post #145)

South Boston, VA

Police justified in deadly South Boston shooting

But, of course!!  (Aug 17, 2008 | post #21)

South Boston, VA

Police justified in deadly South Boston shooting

I just don't think it is as simple as all that, Bob. These were undercover NARCOTICS officers. They are probably trained to be on alert (ie: have guns at the ready) when dealing with people under the influence of drugs. I saw a police officer approach a car where this idiot was rolling his Blunt in BROAD PUBLIC DAYLIGHT. This is a police officer, he is doing his job. Seamster is the one that chose to FLEE. The minute that badge was out he could have stopped his car. He didn't do that....he kept on pushing it and he hit two officers. And the bicyclists had to swerve to avoid being hit. They were in his DIRECT PATH and if they hadn't been alert they would have gotten hit. Seamster didn't see them....he was too busy trying to keep his butt out of jail. Seamster's criminal record DOES matter because it gives him MOTIVE for wanting to flee. If he had a clean record then the "I thought it was a car jacker" excuse would have flown. But since we know that there were SEVERAL things going on in his life, criminally, we all know that he was one strike away from some serious jail time. He had a reason to flee. THAT is why his criminal record was brought out, not because they are trying to say the cops knew this beforehand. Those cops saw a dumbass in the parking lot rolling a newly purchased blunt in his car. These cops are TRAINED to know what someone emptying a blunt looks like. They did their jobs. Seamster chose poorly. They attempted to stop him. Seamster almost killed the bicyclists, another motorist and those officers. If they hadn't shot him...he probably would have hit someone in the parking lot or down the road on 501 South. This isn't late night TV, this isn't corrupt New York City. This is South Boston. These are some really good guys on the local police department. They care about their community and just want to make their corner of the world a better place. They were doing their jobs. As far as me praying for Shadow....that was me being sarcastic. He was the one referring to the bible continuously and I just thought it would be interesting to throw it right back at him. Shadow, I am sure, is suffering some extreme denial because his friend/family member got killed. But blaming these police officers isn't going to bring his friend back and it isn't going to turn Seamster into a good guy. I do not think Seamster was a classic good guy. He sounds like a thug to me.  (Aug 16, 2008 | post #19)