Send a Message
to PainFree

Comments

820

Joined

Jun 6, 2008

PainFree Profile

Forums Owned

Recent Posts

Methadone clinic could cause problems

Why dont' you stop correcting peoples' spelling and move on w/ your life. Your latter post is ignorant and speaks' a lot about you. You are the perfect example of someone who watched FOX news' or read a byast article in their local newspaper to form your opinion. How many thousands' of addicts' are you referring to when you speak of knowledge in pain mgmt. and/or MMT???? Are you comparing your experience or one of your ONE friends' to form your opinion???? You sound ridiculous and ignorant when stating MMT is a way for addicts' to keep getting high. That is absurd, repulsive and comes' from a person who is obviously uneducated about Methadone. If you have some RAW statistical data to present on either issue I think you would come across as a more intelligent person. Your previous post regarding addicts' is hurtful and has no education benefit to it whatsoever. Just because you dont' have the capability to research MMT extensively and listen to byast media outlets' to form your opinions' does' not give your previous post any credibility whatsoever. If you are that concerned that you would make a totally ignorant post regarding MMT and truly think your right....show us some medical journal articles' that you have read or some raw statistical data that you have done. Then maybe you could give your post some credibility. Why come on an MMT topic board and bash the ONE out of TWO treatment options' that addicts' have, let alone bashing addicts' by telling them they are seeking a "high"?? ? Ciao' Jena/PF  (Feb 27, 2010 | post #2250)

Owner of proposed methadone clinic believes it can be goo...

Why dont' you research this and then give me a shout back.... In the Tampa, FL area there is ONE, YES JUST ONE DRUG TREATMENT CENTER, that is offered to recovering addicts' w/ no insurance (over 96% of addicts' have NO insurance plan). This Tampa, FL based drug treatment facility is called DACCO, which is a long-term treatment facility using NA/AA programs. Unfortunately, their success rate is very low, under a 4% recovery rate. There are 3 MMT facilities', with over a 90% success rate. Two of the three clinics' are ran very nicely, with timelines' for addcits' to stop using methadone and realistic goals' in tapering persons' off from methadone. They are now aiming for a year, as a goal for recovery in MMT, rather than promoting "life-long " use. Methadone is fairly easy to taper off from when done properly and slowly, under a qualified physicians' care. Each person is different and their body will tell them how much they can take, when coming off from methadone. I have seen hundreds' of addicts' and pain patients' taper off from methadone w/ little to no withdrawl at ALL. Its' a shame to see someone like you on here bashing any type of treatment centers' that have helped hundreds' of thousands' of addicts', all over the country. The fact is that addicts' do exist and they deserve choices'. Hopefully, more choices' will be made available to them in the future. Instead of lobbying against MMT Centers', why dont' you find out the truth behind why they still exist? Why arent' more long-term, non-opioid treatment centers' being built to help addicts' w/ out insurance?? Why are only the wealthy and persons' w/ insurance only privy to these "alternative therapies' and treatment centers"?? An addict would most likely die waiting to get into a non-opioid treatment center because they dont' have the money or insurance to do so, so they turn to what is available to them...hence, MMT or Abstinence based programs, such as, NA/AA. Currently addicts' have very few choices'. Who are you to take away a persons' choice for their OWN treatment, just because you have a skewed perception and uneducated opinion of how MMT works'? MMT and Suboxone/Subutex, along w/ NA/AA are just ONE of an addicts' two choices' for treatment, unless they miraculously get into DACCO in the Tampa area. It will remain that way until addicts' start receiving the long-term therapies' they need, but our country is not willing to pay for.....instead we are harboring and breeding addicts' w/in our prison system, which is a very lucrative business. There are more prisons' being built than ever in the state of FL this year and over 73% in prison are NON-violent drug offenders'. Ciao'. PF/Jena  (Feb 21, 2010 | post #564)

Methadone clinic could cause problems

I totally agree Deb. Each and every one of us is different. No matter which therapy works' for one in addiction, may not work for another. Also, no one therapy is better than another. Its' all based on the individual and their own unique case. Take Care, PF/Jena  (Feb 20, 2010 | post #2138)

Methadone clinic could cause problems

As a matter of fact, in some countries', using heroin as a tool in an addicts' recovery is a total fact. Instead of using methadone, some countries' have found that weaning a patient off from their drug of choice, such as heroin, is a very productive tool used in addicts' addicted to heroin. The patient goes' into the doctors' office weekly, getting an injection of heroin and the doctor tapers' the patient down gradually, until weaning totally off the drug. PF/Jena  (Feb 20, 2010 | post #2137)

Methadone clinic could cause problems

I honestly dont' think people using MMT as a tool in their recovery really care about the definition of sober. MMT patients' understand that they will be dependent on the drug methadone. Some will need methadone long term and some will only need it short term, but regardless, it is the addicts' choice and based on each persons' individual case. Im' sorry that choices' in life, somehow offend you so greatly. NA/AA is also a personal choice. The only statistical data I have been able to gather is that currently, only about 7% of addicts', if that, recover using NA/AA. In MMT, over 60% of patients' actually recover from using and are able to lead productive lives' while using MMT in their recovery. These stats' are based on long and short-term MMT patients' recovery. Sober is not really the issue here. The issue is effective treatment options' for addiction. MMT works' for some, as does' NA/AA programs'. Again, they are just personal choices' given to the addict. I wish we had more options' in our country to offer, when it comes' to addiction. But we just keep building prisons', instead of more current and productive treatment centers' for addicts'. "Non-violent " and "first time" drug offenders' make up over 70% of our inmate population. If you want to look into one of the largest money making machines' ever, look at our prison systems'....they are housing and breeding addicts' by the thousands' every day, along w/ building thousands' of prisons' every year throughout our country. PF/Jena  (Feb 20, 2010 | post #2133)

Methadone clinic could cause problems

Poppy, Cat, Pickuptruckman, etc., etc.,...whoever you are today, I do NOT work for an MMT Clinic and I do NOT spread any false information, just my own opinions' on the subject at hand. So you can put that lie to rest. I have had the opportunity of working w/ MMT clinics' owners' and counselors', along w/ addictionologists' , NA/AA counselors' and hundreds' of patients'/addicts' in these different programs. This has allowed me to gain a vast amount of "RAW" statistical data regarding the outcome of addicts' within all of these programs'. You want to use the definition of "sober" like it is the only way for any addict to be, otherwise they are less of a person than you, right? Persons' gaining sobriety through NA/AA programs' have a very low success rate...this is a proven fact. But there are people that have had success w/ this treatment and I think that is wonderful. MMT programs', which statistically, have a much higher success rate for recovery are also a great choice for many addicts'. Although they are not "sober" by your definition, it doesnt' mean that they are not living their life to the fullest, because they are still "dependent " on methadone. Also, MMT clinics' do NOT spread lies' that patients' are "sober". Patients' in MMT obviously know that they are dependent on the drug methadone, using it as a "tool" in their recovery. Which ever way an addict "CHOOSES " to become free of drugs' is their OWN personal choice. If they choose to be free of ALL drugs' through NA/AA programs, that is great. If they "CHOOSE" to use MMT as a tool in their recovery from drug addiction, then that is also wonderful. There are faults' w/in both NA/AA and MMT programs' and hopefully both programs' will keep trying to implement different strategies' to make their programs' work better for addicts', giving addicts' the help they need to become successful and productive in their lives' again. Just because persons' in NA/AA are supposedly not taking any medication, which many of them are, such as anti-depressants', anti-anxiety medications, ADD medications, etc., etc., does' not make it a better or worse therapy than MMT. It is a "personal choice" based on each individuals' circumstances'. In my opinion, I think that having choices' in life is a very wonderful thing. Again, as I have stated over and over in the past,......MMT and NA/AA progams' are personal choices'. Im' sorry this angers' you so much that human beings' are allowed to have personal choices' in their life. PF/Jena  (Feb 20, 2010 | post #2129)

Methadone clinic could cause problems

Okayyy...now I am truly convinced that you are dealing w/ some deep-seeded mental issues', along w/ multiple personality disorders'. Why do you keep changing your name and then respond to your own posts??? You have been Poppy, Cat, Pickuptruckman, etc. etc. Are you finding it difficult that no one person agrees' w/ your close-minded and crazy postings'? Are you having fun putting down others' and then posting under different screen names, agreeing w/ your self? Weirdo.  (Feb 19, 2010 | post #2122)

Methadone clinic could cause problems

Another disgusting post. Most persons' in MMT are just as "clean and sober" as those in NA/AA programs'. The only difference is that in MMT a person is dependent on methadone and uses' this as a tool in their recovery. They are no less of a person because they are taking methadone. Thats' like saying a person w/ severe depression should just "suck it up" and deal w/ their depression, instead of taking an anti-depressent, etc..... In my opinion, just admitting that one is an addict is half the battle. Whatever form of treatment an addict uses' is THEIR own personal choice. Do you not believe a human being should be able to make choices' for themselves? Just because you are clean and sober w/ out using a medication, does' not make you any better. Why are you such a cruel and heartless person? Dont' you realize you are just adding to the stigma that addicts' have been trying to fight and dealing w/ all of their lives'? Does' it make you feel good to hurt peoples' feelings? I know people like you......you cant' feel good in your life unless you go around bashing others'. How truly pathetic you are. You should be giving advice on your addiction, not taunting persons' who choose MMT over NA/AA. This makes' you sound nutty and makes' NA sound like some sort of cult or something. PF/Jena  (Feb 14, 2010 | post #2117)

Owner of proposed methadone clinic believes it can be goo...

Your posts' are repulsive and I say this because your cannot for one second even try to be open-minded and you truly seem heartless. I have met hundreds' of persons' on MMT that are living their lives' to the fullest. It has helped them to function normally in society...going back to work, school, etc. I have only met a handful of persons' in NA/AA that I can say this about. I am sure everyone is happy for you that you are sober and clean, as you say....but you dont' have to bash persons' who have also found sobriety through MMT. This does' not make you any better or an expert in addiction. MMT patients' may have a physical dependence to the drug, but that risk far outweighs' the benefits' to persons' "CHOOSING " MMT to help them overcome their addiction, using it as a tool in their recovery. Why does' it make you so angry that MMT actually works' for many addicts'? Are you having a rough time trying to stick to the 12 steps'? I guess I cant' understand why you would be so angry at a therapy, such as MMT, that has a very high recovery rate statistically for addicts'. Its' an alternative to NA/AA, which in turn, has very low statistical data showing recovery, when it comes' to persons' relapsing and recovering from their addiction. MMT, NA/AA, etc. are personal choices'. Would it make you happy to see that by not opening a clinic in Somerset, that you are a part of denying persons' a choice to recover from addiction, just because you have had success w/ a different treatment? Take Care, PF/Jena  (Feb 14, 2010 | post #506)

Clinics that have wafers

Hey PP, Im' doing great, thanks' for asking. I just wanted to add that now that the 40 mg wafers' have been taken of the market, pain patients' were forced to take the 10mg. tablets. The only downside to this is that pharmacies' and other specialists' will look at a patients' "quantity " of methadone and freak out now, because converting 40 mg. tablets' down to 10mg. tablets' causes' an extreme increase in the amount of actual pills' the patient is receiving. Pharmacies' are running out early now because they have to dispense so many 10mg. pills', due to the conversion of 40 mg down to 10 mg. The 10mg. pills' are still being diverted, so Im' not really sure that statistically taking the 40 mg pills' off the market has even made a difference. Take Care, Jena  (Feb 13, 2010 | post #21)

Clinics that have wafers

Hi PP, Hope all is well. In Pain Mgmt. The DEA took them off the market for pain patients'...due to diversion issues and this happened a couple years' ago..... But in MMT, I'm,, not sure. Take Care, Jena  (Feb 9, 2010 | post #4)

Do Opiates Increase Fibromyalgia Pain?

Hello, Sorry to hear about your pain, but Im' very happy to hear you finally found some relief. Its' too bad you have to go to an MMT clinc though. Can you possibly find an addictionoligist in your area? They will treat you monthly and monitor your addiction and pain issues, using methadone. This will prevent you from the costly MMT treatment and DAILY trips' to the MMT clinic. We have many patients' w/ fibromyalgia that have benefited using methadone at our pain mgmt. practice. Again, I am very glad you are pain free!!! Take Care. PF/Jena  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #36)

US Politics

Sarah Palin's exit as Alaska governor stuns, puzzles obse...

Actually, I think the Repubs' may have had a shot at office if it was Fey, rather than Palin running!!!!  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #1992)

US Politics

Sarah Palin's exit as Alaska governor stuns, puzzles obse...

Yes....and lets' not forget that teenage pregnancy is an issue that is out of control in this day and age. A problem that I dont' want my child thinking is condoned and a problem that should not occur in a family with such "high moral standards'" as Palin has lied about many times'. Maybe she should have spent a little more time monitoring the activities' of her children rather than put her career first. Family values', are obviously not at the top of her "to do" list. I prefer my child to grow up w/ someone that has "real" family values'. Not a family that has issues' that belong on the "Jerry Springer" show, which Palin will probably be on soon. Obama and the first lady have successfully worked very hard on many different social/economic issues' and have the family values' that my child already recognizes', even before Obama was elected President. At 14 years' old he resorts' to researching facts' on his own from unbiased media outlets' to form his own opinions'. His father and I have differing views' and we have always' told him before making a decision to research it fully, using "credible " and "factual " information, which is hard to find these days'. Its' unbelievable to me that adults' are still so close-minded and believe anything they read or hear from biased media outlets'. Palin is a mockery to the political arena. There are many republicans' that feel she has hurt their chances' in the long run. Jena  (Jan 15, 2010 | post #1991)

Q & A with PainFree

Headline:

HELPING PREVENT DIVERSION