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Mike Vandermause column: While Packers stay course, divis...

Interesting points, MV. Let's consider these two... Why worry about mortgaging the future? The list of FAs re-signed by Thompson is---? It's not a list. Second, Chicago may have been behind us in total defense, but they won more games than we did (with Kyle Orton) and they just added a better QB. So even if they don't add a better WR, we've added two backups--what makes us better? We took 9 draft picks last year: Nelson, Brohm, Lee, Finley, Thompson, Sitton, Giamcomini, Flynn and Swain, and they started a total of 7 games between all 9 of them. So why does everyone talk like we are going to draft impact players to turn around this 6-10 team? The argument will go: yes, but we were drafting for 13-3 team in'08. Well what the hell happened? We've lost Corey Williams, Colin Cole, Brett Favre, Ruvell Martin, Bubba Franks, David Martin, KGB, Daniel Muir, not to mention a host of special teamers/reserves since 2007. I value the draft, but turning over the underside of the team every 1-2 years exposes the inexperience of your bench. You are gambling on no injuries. '07 was an anomaly in that sense--very healthy season and BF played at MVP level. We have zero depth. Painfully obvious last season. I'd mortgage a draft pick or two to get a starter at a key position.  (Apr 5, 2009 | post #1)

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Woodson, Harris: We need some free agents on defense

Okay, I can't stand it any longer... There's nothing wrong with our defensive scheme that some line play wouldn't solve. We don't have the depth on Dline. It's the same scheme that worked when we were 8-8 and not scoring and 13-3 and nearly nfc champs. Have you watched us (try to) play zone? Can't stop the run and can't rush the passer. Our O-line is equally inconsistent. Would like to see an impact rookie on either side, wouldn't you? Would also like to see some people sellout to win, the way Harris, Woodson and Driver do. I see false starts and poor tackling. There's a lot of blame to go around. An interesting comparison is the 2000 Kansas City Chiefs. Elvis Grbac passed for 4,100+ yds and looked like Joe Montana but they went 2-14. Same issues. Grbac took some hits and went downhill fast after a year or two. I hope we don't squander Aaron's best years.  (Dec 30, 2008 | post #19)

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Grants Contract?

It's hard to gain anything with D line free in the backfield. Those first 3 or 4 games were not pretty. Signs of O line improvement are there... Can they stay healthy and develop some continuity? We shall see. This week is an extremely tough test.  (Oct 29, 2008 | post #7)

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No Bucs. Brett Favre traded to the New York Jets

No the difference is that Unitas had already been riding the bench before he got shipped out--replaced by Earl Morrall. No disrespect intended regarding his contribution to the game, however. Different era, different game, different rules, different type of athlete. Brett can still play (MVP runner-up last season). Comparing them is silly. The Montana comparison is somewhat more valid, although he too had lost his job to Young--and he got KC to the conference championship. I think the Jets would take that.  (Aug 7, 2008 | post #28)

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Jets, Bucs vie for Favre

I guess cutting Chad was the cap room answer! Nice guy. Too bad for him. Take it from a Pack rooter--Brett can still play. Bubba should be quite pleased.  (Aug 7, 2008 | post #60)

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Jets, Bucs vie for Favre

Do the Jets have the cap room to take on Favre? It's going to have to be very enticing for him to choose to go there. Tampa makes more sense because they can deal Garcia and get equal value back (given the sitch) plus Dallas is clamoring for Chris Simms. Perhaps the Jets would like Brian Griese --just kidding.  (Aug 6, 2008 | post #19)

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BOB SANSEVERE: All this angst over Brett Favre is good fo...

Totally agree Fran--about Fran. I was watching a show about guys that ought to be in the Hall and Jim Marshall was the obvious choice --270 games on Dline--amazing. My favorite was guys falling all over themselves in support of Kenny Stabler when Jim Hart was not even mentioned. Criminal.  (Aug 6, 2008 | post #61)

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BOB SANSEVERE: All this angst over Brett Favre is good fo...

Fran how are you? And how messed up is this whole deal? I think in a strange way this can bring your team closer together (flying under radar). And as eric points out, Chicago wasn't out of many games last year. They will be heard from.  (Aug 5, 2008 | post #12)

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Green Bay's now Mr. Rodgers' neighborhood

Conveniently don't count the nine GB championships prior to the Super Bowl. Hey, the Cowboys are the team to beat this year, no argument here.  (Aug 5, 2008 | post #20)

Green Bay Packers

Green Bay's now Mr. Rodgers' neighborhood

Erodite fans you guys have. I can man up and admit an error. Let's count the GEDs in this chat room... let's see... uh-too many. You guys act like you've won a Super Bowl since we have--or in 22 years, when most of you weren't born. You come to GB soon enough, we'll see...  (Jul 30, 2008 | post #17)

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Brett Favre applies for reinstatement

The whole league is stalling for these imcompetent fools. It's a sad day when the commissioner delays his duty to let a team "have more time." And it's a sad day when the player's association does't insist he act immediately. It's a sad day for pro football that a guy (like so many others) can't change his mind about retiring. Think Reggie White. The result of his play is not the issue. Just re-instate the guy and be men. I am embarrased for the Pack. McCarthy knows full well what Murphy's intentions are. What a load of guano. If I was Brett I'd say, "You couldn't stop me when you were playing, what makes you think you can stop me now?"  (Jul 30, 2008 | post #55)

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Brett Favre applies for reinstatement

40 is pretty right on -- they've got to either play either play him or cut him. No one is going to give anything up in a trade because they know TT & MM don't want Favre. And if they cut him, he's a Viking faster than you can say Hubert Humphrey Metrodome. Tampa is in beautiful position here... They can give Dallas what they want--Chris Simms and lower their asking price (4th rnd pick) because they can probably get Favre for a 3rd or 4th round pick now -- and now they've got Jeff Garcia to dangle out to the Vikings et al...  (Jul 29, 2008 | post #16)

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Green Bay's now Mr. Rodgers' neighborhood

October 6, 1991, 20-17. Good luck buying that championship.  (Jul 29, 2008 | post #10)

Green Bay Packers

Green Bay's now Mr. Rodgers' neighborhood

I make slightly less than Joe Pa and Arlen Specter, that's for sure! Culpepper wanted to compete to start, like Favre, that's why he didn't sign, according to Driver, who's friends with him. It had nothing to do with Favre--he was retired. The hostage thing is that The Packers don't want Favre, but can keep him from playing for someone else fi they choose, which is double stupid because by indicating to the whole league that he's really not wanted, no one will give us anything for him because they are smart enough to know that the Packers (of all teams) are not going to pay a backup $12.8 million, so they can just wait until they cut him at he end of camp and he'll be a Viking anyway. A guy with some stones would have just traded him to the Vikings because 1) ARod's the man, right? and 2) The Vikes are the one team that would give up something to get him.  (Jul 29, 2008 | post #7)

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Green Bay's now Mr. Rodgers' neighborhood

Uh Dallas had never won at GB, dude. Agreed eric. So let's hold the guy the hostage, is that the sentiment? TT asks Brett not to show up. MM says it won't pose a problem if he does. Interpretation? Anybody who thinks all is well is living in fantasy world. Your man Aaron has been put in the worst case scenario--I enjoyed the 35 TD comment, btw--if only they had the stones to release Favre. Back to our previous convo: if I quit my job and ask for it back and they've replace me, I have to accept it. However, in real life they don't have the right to keep me from working elsewhere, like in this case. When I quit, the contract is broken. They can sue, offer me the job back (unemployment rules) or let me go. In this case, a guy is chattel. Don't make me sick Arlen Specter on you-haha.  (Jul 28, 2008 | post #5)