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Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

Fair enough. My comments are, in part, a coping mechanism. These people have scared the hell out of me for years, to the extent that I have (in the past) been too scared to leave my home because I wanted to avoid them and wait for the stalking and harassment to stop. It hasn't, so I have to cope with it. I do this by mocking them here sometimes. It's kind of too bad because I would be able to help so many more people--personally and professionally--if I did not have to deal with the gangstalking, but I'm just one person and I am coping as well as I think just about anyone could in my shoes. Great job, gangstalkers, you are really making the world a better place [sarcasm]. If you look beyond the (many) scary parts of the gangstalkers, a lot of what they do IS really stupid, anyway. They're going to follow me around or wait for me so they can make insipid, gross comments at me? For what? A lot of people just get off on being jerks. Unfortunate, but true. Really, they don't deserve one second of my time spent thinking about them, but since I have to cope with them, then I try to either study their behavior intellectually or else I make fun of them (here). And lately, I am getting better at just ignoring their stupidity. They should really be embarrassed to be engaging in such moronic nonsense around me. Gangstalkers want you to be angry, sad, and frustrated. They want you to feel bad about yourself, even if you are a smart, hardworking, beautiful person. Do whatever you can to not give them that!  (Jan 28, 2013 | post #11604)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

Yes. I say try to not even notice them, online or in life, if you can help it. They are like a bunch of chickens: gathering around you, not doing any work, just trying desperately to get your attention, while hiding who they are, what they are doing, and why. Stop, chickens! Why do you keep clucking at me? I will keep trying to have an academic and intellectual view of you, but there doesn't seem to be anything very interesting there to analyze. I'll keep trying!  (Jan 27, 2013 | post #11590)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

I'll add to my last post that there is no legitimate explanation for agreeing to say another person's words or agenda for them, and pretending they are your own. That is manipulative and dishonest under any set of circumstances. If someone has something to say, then they can say it themselves, anonymously if need be, but not ever by having someone else help them pretend it is not from the true speaker. Anyone who hides behind someone else in this way is a coward, and anyone who agrees to let them hide behind them in this way is a fool.  (Jan 27, 2013 | post #11588)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

My question was not a sneaky attempt at doing anything, Sid. My question was open and upfront, and it was just a question. Eleanor is the only target I am aware of who posts regularly under her real name, I have communicated with her multiple times on this forum in the past, and like I DID say, that would make a perp's manipulation of her a coup on their part. Perps are all about manipulating people, and getting them to do their dirty work for them.  (Jan 27, 2013 | post #11587)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

Eleanor, When I asked you about whether you have received materials asking you to communicate messages to another target, I'm asking whether you have ever been asked to participate in behavior that is duplicitious towards a target--because the source of the original message would not be you, it would be whoever came up with the message to be delivered. It would be done to disguise the identity of the message's originator. It would be a tactic a perp would use to harass his target ("why is Eleanor White saying the perp's words for him?"). Since you have been an activist on this subject for so long, it would not surprise me if you had been approached by a perp pretending to be something other than a perp. It would be a coup for a perp to be able to "use" you in such a manner. Considering how successful they are at manipulating so many people, I would not be surprised if a perp had--in some capacity--reached out to you in such a way at some point over the years. That's why I asked.  (Jan 26, 2013 | post #11580)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

I disagree with your first sentence. MANY people know it is happening, they just lie and say it is not. Why? Because many people are simply stupid and selfish. They would not like it if it were done to them but they will go along with ganging up on one other person when they are assured that that one person won't be able to fight back. That's just the way some people are--until or unless someone has the huevos to blow the whistle and someone in the media has the huevos to openly and honestly publish the truth--naming names and giving the accused gangstalkers the opportunity to respond to the allegations. Til then, they will all wallow in their own cowardice, dropping hints that have no truth, like the pigs they are. No offense to pigs. I have a question for you, Eleanor. In your 32 years as a target and 16 years doing activism, have you ever received materials (from whatever source) wherein you were asked to help "relay messages" to another target? For example, incorporate comments into your own writings or speeches?  (Jan 26, 2013 | post #11578)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

I agree with you. They think that if they stick together then they cannot "get in trouble." They will just say that they are doing what anyone else in their profession would have done in the same situation. And the ethical boards and courts are on board with them until or unless someone can present evidence in such a public way that it is too much to be rationalized away.  (Jan 20, 2013 | post #11479)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

Witnesses with firsthand knowledge of what they've been asked to do (or seen others be asked to do) are going to have to come forward and give official statements or testimony, Eleanor. Just like in other forms of organized crime.  (Jan 20, 2013 | post #11476)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

Some in that profession truly are just corrupt. If you have had good luck with them (other than the reprisals you mention), then I am happy for you. There are many people in other professions, too, that are comfortable lying (and comfortable manipulating others and intentionally hurting them for fun). It has really surprised me, as I don't lie myself and I prize the truth. When someone prizes the truth, they expect others to be the same way. I used to presume people would tell me the truth. It never used to occur to me that they would lie! It has been a rude awakening to find out that I appear to be in the minority in this regard. But that's the way it is. At least I know that I have told the truth, and they are liars, and that they know it too. I also know that this frustrates them. They can manipulate many people, but the truth (the real truth) remains, in spite of their manipulations, and the weak people who go along with their lies because it is easier on them than telling the truth would be.  (Jan 20, 2013 | post #11475)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

I will consider signing it--in my stilletos--but can you tell me who in Congress it is getting attention from?  (Jan 19, 2013 | post #11463)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

A lot of people who have experienced gangstalking are not delusional or psychotic. Doesn't stop corrupt doctors from calling them that. Your judgment call about this one, though--another thing I don't have to tell you. Are you mentioning cognitive dissonance in particular because I posted about it before?  (Jan 19, 2013 | post #11460)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

Someone on here recently said that she views group stalkers like paparazzi. Lately, I've been viewing them more like animals that I encounter on an expedition (I see a lot of wild boars, baboons, the more docile-seeming ones are like cows and water buffalo). How exciting! "Look--that one looks like the giant boars from Beasts of the Southern Wild!" "Look--that one looks like Cornelius from the Planet of the Apes!" "Look at that one with the leathery skin and the hair like ramen noodles that just took pictures of me in the mirror at the furniture store and is now confronting me in a nasty way!" Adventure! Sometimes the expedition can be scary, yes, but I tell myself I must be brave in dealing with these creatures, who are basic in nature, scary in appearance, and just not very bright. They can only do what their pack tells them to do! Bravely step outside and observe them while they try desperately to interact with you!  (Jan 19, 2013 | post #11459)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

She sounds to me like she already knows what you're saying is true. Just my opinion, and I'm only telling it to you because I don't want you to get your hopes up about "convincing " her. A lot of people pretend to be sympathetic when really they just want more info from you to use against you. It happens all the time--I'm sure I don't have to tell you. People decide early on whether or not they are going to go along with it. Says a lot about the type of people they are.  (Jan 19, 2013 | post #11455)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

Lance Armstrong is going to get bashed for participating in doping, profiting and lying about it, but it's only when someone who's an insider comes clean about corrupt widespread conspiracies that anything has a chance to change and get better, if you ask me. Yes, that's an analogy. Grow some cojones group stalkers! Blow the whistle! Be the hero! Do you really want to be a coward who only does whatever he's told no matter who it hurts? You just want the group to like you? You can't even be honest about what you're doing and why?  (Jan 17, 2013 | post #11427)

Colorado

Gang Stalking and psychological harassment

Here's another charming anecdote about group stalking: my idiot stalkers keep referring to one of their own as "It." Apparently they are referring to him like this because he is one whose identity was hidden from me when I tried to investigate my stalking (making the hiding of him fraud). Now, years later, the idiots I encounter like to say "We have It!" "We found It!" etc.(said repeatedly in a fake way and as non-sequiturs). Like I asked them to identify this man, but he's not really a man and that's why they supposedly couldn't find him? Uh-huh. Right. It's a lame putdown (one Tampa embraced), but how much outrage can I feel when it's said about someone who's stalked me--by other people who are still stalking me? All group stalkers dehumanize themselves anyway when they target an individual and won't leave her be.  (Jan 17, 2013 | post #11426)