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Supreme Court hands President Obama a major victory on he...

I've noticed no address the part that the Court did strike down, That the states cannot be required to expand their Medicaid rolls. That means that if they don't, there will be a lot of below poverty level indiviuals who are going to be getting taxpayer money directly from the government to pay for their insurance.  (Jun 28, 2012 | post #198)

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Ten Major Court Cases about Evolution and Creationism

Yes scientist question every theory out there everyday through experiments and research, but every experiment and every bit of research starts with a basic question. I have issues with the fact that the defenders of evolution demand that a person have a more than basic understanding before they can even ask questions or bring up an argument. I have stated time and time again that evolution is a fact, yet I am still attacked because I made a statement that evolution does not have evidence that shows how life began. I have been told that the theory has nothing to do with the beginnings of life, I have been basically called stupid, when all I have done is stated a fact. I am talking of the origin of life, not debating that evolution occurs. It seems everyone is so intent on defending their position that a statement of lack of evidence puts me in the creationist camp and subject to ridicule. With an attitude like that no wonder over 50% of people still believe in creationism, people as a group tend to gravitate towards the people that don't condescend or attack.  (Jun 22, 2012 | post #88)

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Ten Major Court Cases about Evolution and Creationism

Where did you get the idea that i said the was no theory of evolution, I said that evolution is a proven fact, just that evolution cannot be traced back to the start point. You really need to learn to read. I have said repeatedly that evolution is a fact. I am speaking of the origins of life. They have not been proven ether way and if you use science as your guide, you can only make an educated guess, you cannot make a definite statement with the facts that we have now.  (Jun 22, 2012 | post #87)

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Ten Major Court Cases about Evolution and Creationism

You still don't comprehend my initial statement. Neither creationists or evolutionists have proven how life began. Creation is the start of something. That is where evolution starts. At some point some collection of proteins or molecules or whatever came together and formed something that could replicate itself and pass on enough material for evolution to take charge. Evolution is a proven fact, but no one has a start point on it. I haven't been defensive, I made a factual statement and was immediately attacked because of the evolutionists preconceived notions that anyone questioning them was a creationist, therefore worthy of contempt. No one can disprove the statement I made so I was insulted and called uneducated. Hard to be a jesus freak when I have been an atheist for over 30 years, but obviously since since I said that evolution hasn't proven everything I'm a creationist. Seems you follow a much more rigid dogma then I do, I look for answers, I don't assume that I have them all, must be nice to know everything like you seem to do. As far as my state goes, so what, they allow questions to be asked. Seems you are the one with the major issue of some middle school kid asking questions. You would fit right in with the catholic church with that attitude. As far as the courts go, all the decisions have been that creationism cannot be taught as fact, not that it can't be discussed.  (Jun 22, 2012 | post #86)

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Ten Major Court Cases about Evolution and Creationism

So at what point in the past does the TOE stop and no longer deal with life, is there a cut off year? Every advanced biology course I have ever taken has at some point in the teaching of evolution, has addressed the origins of life, without life, you have no evolution and without evolution there is no theory.. You can't in any seriousness that the multiple scientists studying evolution aren't attempting to trace life back to the origin. The issue here is the fact I made a statement the theory does not explain and you became defensive. Making that statement is no more insulting as making the statement that medical science is very advanced and has made great strides, but it still hasn't cured cancer. That is not question the science, simply stating a fact. And I guess you haven't kept up with the news, but my state has passed a law that evolution can be questioned by creationists in science class. Right or wrong, that is the current law until it is overturned. Discussion is not the problem, teaching creationism as fact is. We discuss discredited ideas in science classes all the time, if only to simply teach some of the wrong ideas that have already been brought up and proven false.  (Jun 22, 2012 | post #78)

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Ten Major Court Cases about Evolution and Creationism

What question did I ask? I made statements that are easily proven. I stated that evolution was fact, but that it had not proven how life had begun. If I am wrong please give me a link to the study that proves me wrong. I also stated that both sides reacted in the same way, evolutionist insult the creationists, and creationist insult the evolutionists. You have proven, I guess that you are willing to insult any one. I addressed the subject of the article with an opinion that the subject be broached in science class, not taught as fact, similar in the way alchemy is discussed in chemistry classes. Simply as something, while completely incorrect, did lead to some innovations in science. Please tell me the question I asked or the statement I made that questioned any science? I guess your reading comprehension needs to be addressed because I have made no claims against science, simply against the defenders that present themselves on here.  (Jun 22, 2012 | post #76)

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Ten Major Court Cases about Evolution and Creationism

Yet when the evolutionist people are questioned, they become insulting, condescending, and usually rude, they same way you just did. How do you think the scientific method came to be? Obviously by people questioning, do you think every scientific question has to meet your standards to be valid or not.? Why do evolution people think there is an education requirement to question something? I've seen scientific grants for studies as ridiculous as why dogs eat grass and whether or not a sea otter can be trained to deliver messages. If you don't want or can't answer the question, don't but how ridiculous did it sound to most people when the theory that tiny little creatures that you can't see or feel can cause you to get sick. I bet that theory caught a lot of flack as well before we manage to prove the existence of germs.  (Jun 22, 2012 | post #74)

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Ten Major Court Cases about Evolution and Creationism

My only problem with either the theory of evolution or the idea of intelligent design or creationism is that fact that neither side will allow their particular idea to be questioned. Creationism has no objective proof of how life began, but neither does the theory of evolution. Im not talking about the proven change in organisms, thats proven beyond reproach, but of the actual beginning of life. Evolution provides the best guess but has yet to provide, for a lack of a better word, the actual recipe for how life began. Until one side or the other comes up with direct proof of how it happened, this will be a never ending argument. As far as teaching it in school, I feel that while the facts of evolution should be taught, just like any other facts, the issue of differing beliefs should be touched on, not taught as fact, but as an aside. Something along the lines of this is the science, and this is how we came up with this theory, but there are others who believe this. Address the beliefs, but don't present them as fact.  (Jun 22, 2012 | post #72)

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Study documents struggles families have faced during the ...

I'm putting this out as a discussion point. Has anyone ever considered that this recession may have some positive points to it? We had become an over consuming society, the majority living beyond their means. Growth can only go on so long and situations cannot be expected to improve continuously. At some point there has to be a reset. I am not speaking of a rich/poor distinction, but the attitude that people have to have it better than people in the past. If that mentality is unchecked, people have unreal expectations. Nothing contiues to get better and better. Just because your parents had a certain lifestyle doesn't mean you are entitled to the same or better lifestyle.  (Jun 13, 2012 | post #16)

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In America, atheists are still in the closet

I am by no means arguing for a god, but I do have issues with your arguement. Knowing the outcome of someone elses decision doesn't mean that the person making the decision doesnt have free will. I can give my child a choice between cake and brussel sprouts, knowing he is going to choose the cake, but my knowing that doesnt have an impact on his decision. Like I said, just question the argument of free will vs omniscience, I'm an atheist so I dont believe there is a god of any sort.  (Jun 13, 2012 | post #16063)

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Health Care Decision Hinges On A Crucial Clause

What law did the Southern states break? I haven't been able to find any legislation that stated it was illegal to secede. There is nothing in the Constitution that addresses it, so basically, they weren't breaking laws, there was simply a war fought to make the Southern States stay in the union.  (Jun 13, 2012 | post #103)

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Supreme Court refuses to hear 'birther' argument again

Thank you for the correction, I was dealing with the more current version of the law as that was what I had dealt with. I made the mistaken assumption that the law was not as new as 1986.  (Jun 12, 2012 | post #35)

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Why Black People And Republicans Just Can't Get Along

Obviously you haven't studied South Africa, or several of the Asian nations who in the past have had both legal and cultural taboos against not only racial mixing but nationality mixing as well.  (Jun 12, 2012 | post #1856)

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Supreme Court refuses to hear 'birther' argument again

With an US citizen as a parent, that makes the childe a citizen, there are literally thousands of children born outside the US. Go to any US military base in a foreign country and you can prove that. Several countries won't grant citizenship to children with a US citizen for a parent. So the actual birthplace is moot. I don't like Obama, but I do believe that this is a non issue and the focus should be on his record, his foreign and domestic policies and his platform. That's enough reason not to re elect the man in my opinion, why worry about his birthplace.  (Jun 11, 2012 | post #19)

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Evolution vs. Creation

Tennessee, making Sharia look like A liberal San Franciscan.  (Jun 11, 2012 | post #30104)