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Ice Bucket Challenge for Christians?

That's just plain silly. Some people tell lies, some don't. Some exaggerate, some tell their version of events, some parody, some people call liar liar if you say you're going for a pee and then don't cos the urge has gone off.  (14 hrs ago | post #90)

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Marriage feasts in the new system

..and no wedding feast would be complete without the wedding samba. https://www.youtub e.com/watch?v=VIlr czByLJE  (Thursday | post #14)

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Ice Bucket Challenge for Christians?

I guess having a bucket of ice-cold water tipped over you in order to raise money for charity is quite a noble thing. But for some strange reason, I have an inkling that it would be frowned on should a JW do such a thing.  (Tuesday Aug 26 | post #1)

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Marvin Shilmer Deletes Posts on His Blog about Blood

Are you a tell-tale tit?  (Tuesday Aug 26 | post #139)

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Would a Kind Person Shun?

The whole thing is nuts. Back in the day, my best friend was disfellowshipped, so I was admonished "Michael, do the right thing and shun him blah blah blah". Unfortunately, my pal and I had similar outside interests that involved other people too, such as playing football and snooker. I tried to do the "right thing" and limit our contact, but hadn't allowed for the hostility my behaviour would engender amongst non-JW onlookers who thought I had taken leave of my senses to treat an old fruned so disgracefully. They were right, I was wrong.  (Tuesday Aug 26 | post #44)

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Would a Kind Person Shun?

There can be no doubt that shunning for just about everything under the sun as inisited upon by JW leaders has little or no resemblance to the limited contact advocated by Paul for just a few serious misdoings. This is why most folk find it almost impossible to totally shun someone so that their very existence is denied. Most folk, JW's included, have some degree of compassion. Consequently the majority of JW's will give some acknowledgement to a DF'd person if they come face to face. It might just be a smile or a wink, or even a "Sorry we can't talk" remark. Most will find the hard-nosed, brass-necked total ignoring a la Brooklyn to be total anathema to their basic instincts.  (Tuesday Aug 26 | post #42)

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Would a Kind Person Shun?

LOL. If the scripture at 2 John 10 were observed literally by Jehovah's Witnesses, they would be obliged to never invite anyone other than a Jehovah's Witness in good standing into their home, or ever speak a greeting to anyone other than a Jehovah's Witness.  (Monday Aug 25 | post #38)

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Would a Kind Person Shun?

WT 8-1-74: We may note, too, that at 1 Corinthians 5:11 the apostle warns against mixing in company with one who “is” a fornicator or practicer of some other kind of serious wrongdoing. What, however, of the one who has been disfellowshiped for being that kind of person but who thereafter, either at an early point or at a later point in time, gives consistent evidence of discontinuing such wrong practice, stopping it? Can it be said that he or she still “is” a fornicator or whatever type of wrongdoer such a one was that caused him or her to be as “leaven” toward the congregation?  (Sunday Aug 24 | post #32)

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Would a Kind Person Shun?

In my day, ostracising someone was just plain bullying and was a device mainly used by "Queen Bee" teenage girls as a means of control.  (Friday Aug 22 | post #15)

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Would a Kind Person Shun?

Bad analogy. Personalise any scenario and logic goes out the window.  (Friday Aug 22 | post #13)

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Would a Kind Person Shun?

As a JW, I found it almost impossible to shun someone. I tried it a couple of times and I just felt mean and dirty. Even as a youngster I think I realised that this was a most unnatural thing that was being requested of me. It just felt plain wrong. I came across this link earlier today. It discusses how shunning is as bad for the perpetrator as it is for the victim of shunning: http://www.psychol awlogy.com/2013/05 /14/hurting-others -hurts-psychologic al-costs-of-ignori ng-or-excluding-ot hers/ So there you go. Shun someone at the request of another party and you damage yourself as much as the person who is being excluded.  (Friday Aug 22 | post #1)

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World's greatest website JW.ORG

Soft soaps major issues. Tries to make disfellowshipping sound reasonable and loving. Maybe some of the general public could be fooled.  (Thursday Aug 21 | post #2)

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How was the ark propelled?

Maybe she was a paddle steamer? https://www.youtub e.com/watch?v=JkeZ _DAsxEc  (Wednesday Aug 20 | post #10)

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WT Policies Self - Weakening

They've painted themselves into a corner. They can't move. Originally, in the early 50's, when the blood and disfellowshipping thing were both introduced, none of it seemed such a big deal. There was initially even some martyrdom value re the blood. The DF'ing thing was only used infrequently and then for only really really bad stuff. Saying you were sorry normally got you off with a years probation, after the year was up the slate was wiped clean. However, as time went on and people began to complain to the media, particularly after the great softening of 1974 was reversed - (this is before the advent of the net) - the WT chose to make their position even more entrenched. As internet websites then appeared nd then became ever more critical of WT policies, so the WT chose to affirm it's position more and more until they became so entrenched they couldn't back down. The once-isolated DF'd ones suddenly had a social support system so that fewer and fewer felt the need to return. Had they stayed with the 1974 reversal, the WT would, IMHO, have fared much better. The 1974 reversal was done quite cleverly and had everyone commenting on how loving of Jehovah to guide his organisation so well. Had the WT stayed with it, they could have dissolved away one of the greatest mistakes they ever made and finished up with a discipline system that was in line with Scripture. Unhappily for them, their intractibility has actually bitten them in the arse. Once keen dubbies, those with some intelligence anyway, have watched WT harshness grow and grow and simply left the organisation. Those that remain are the wishy-washy types, followers, devoid of charisma or personality, who are unable to liven up a meeting or impress a householder. So the WT's own policies have actually severely weakened them, not just in numbers but also in the increase of apathy now so visible amongst the R & F. They've totally blown it!  (Tuesday Aug 19 | post #1)

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Destination - Heaven!

According to Revelation 14. 2, much of one's time will be spent as harpists harping on our harps. ...probably plucking stairway to heaven.  (Monday Aug 18 | post #37)

Q & A with Mikronboy

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Play up Pompey

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Weston super Mare

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England

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Waverley

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RAOB, RSPB, Camra

When I'm Not on Topix:

Regency, Criterion

Read My Forum Posts Because:

My recollections about JW's really winds 'em up!

I'm Listening To:

Pagannini

Read This Book:

The Prince, Machiavelli

Favorite Things:

A Merlin and 8 Brownings

On My Mind:

Walking the Madeira levadas

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Nein

I Believe In:

Good football. Not that nonsense played by fellas in crash helmets but good English bloody football.