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Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

You mean like, the bible says its Ok?  (10 min ago | post #128833)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

In case you have not noticed, I no longer believe either of these sects of Christianity. Yes, I realized they failed I gave them up. I questioned their reasoning, and they failed the tests. I have no doubt you blindly follow the religion of your parents. I do not. You even claimed to pray to their god, even though you claimed not to believe in their god. Sorry, but the logic does not add up. When the logic does not add up, I tend to be even more skeptical.  (29 min ago | post #128832)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

My personal interpretation is moral reasoning. You are simply showing you wish to see rules in a book and my refusal to accept them blindly will get me scorched. I keep asking you to show me the facts, or the scriptures that show moral reasoning. You keep refusing. I can only conclude they do not exist. Prove me wrong if you can. Telling me I am wrong means nothing, as this is my dispute with the bible, in case you still have no figured out my point as of yet.  (33 min ago | post #128831)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Context? You mean like comparing the condoning of homosexuality to the rape of children?  (38 min ago | post #128830)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

You mean like not stoning women anymore? You are the king of picking and choosing out of holy books.. Religion is the king of picking and choosing out of the holy books. You avoid stoning women, even though you believe god demanded it. Thank goodness you feel that rule is not good now.  (42 min ago | post #128829)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

I am still waiting for you to cite the scripture that shows his moral reasoning? And saying it helps society, is not a description of moral reasoning. The moral reasoning must show why it is good for society. Now you did show some of mans moral reasoning, and that is a great start. Now if you could show god doing it.  (46 min ago | post #128828)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

I see you cited my good reasons for not doing some acts, the bible does not. You keep claiming it does, yet have offered up not a single scripture.  (50 min ago | post #128827)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

I cannot see you showing any convenient excuses offered up by an atheist poster here, as I just showed.  (55 min ago | post #128826)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

I fail to see the connection with homosexuality and abusing children? Sexually abusing children happens in all sexual orientations. Priests having to be celibate by decree of dogma are put in a position of not being able to have open relationships with adults. Not sure if that is a strong contributor the problem, but it seems as if it might. Also, seeing as how homosexuality is so forbidden by religion (with no rational) the religious homosexuals might just lean towards attempting to be celibate, and being a priest would cover the questions that typically come when someone is celibate. So they could hide their sexuality easier. Then the priests are also put in positions of authority over boys in unusual ways. Well this is a recipe for abuse. Then their is simply the people who are sexual predators before they are priests. Well the church offers up a position they obviously can work with. I have never seen Pre K condoning sexually abusing children. So really you are talking about two different things. So you show zero contradiction on his part.  (58 min ago | post #128825)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Again, you are giving good reasons for your position. And again I say the bible does not. And this is the dispute, in case you still have no figured that out. You see, even you can show moral reasoning with no help from a bible. Sadly the men who wrote the bible could not do it. Or maybe they felt just claiming god said it would be all they needed to do. But evidenced by the believers behavior, it is not enough, as they so often have sex with animals. You see, if you tell someone many logical reasons not to do something, you have a much better chance at convincing them it is actually bad to do. Expecting blind faith is not reasonable. Psychology goes deep into examining the pros and cons of moral questions. And it often learns of many great reasons not to do bad things. I often read these and thus am better enabled to convince myself not to do bad things.  (1 hr ago | post #128824)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

I am able to see that, and I already told you that. It is good moral reasoning. The debate has nothing to do with that good moral reasoning. The debate is, the bible gives no such reasons. It simply demands you do not do it. And I say reasons are better than simply demanding. Why? Because without reasons, then no judgment of logic can be used to show if it is a good rule or a bad rule. One would simply have to blindly follow a rule. And that often leads to atrocities, case in point, 9/11. The terrorists blindly followed a rule that had no logic. It leads to killing for many such religious reasons, as I often cite Deuteronomy's rules on this. And show the believers often killed in history for the simple reason of disputing a religious belief. So I have shown reasons blindly following is bad, and you have no reason blindly following is good.  (1 hr ago | post #128823)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Not true in the slightest, so your rant was baseless. If anything goes for me, then killing for worshipping a golden object would be ok by me, yet I condemn it regularly here. Anything does not go, and that is the debate. Did you forget everything we have said? Now you seem to think anything goes for a god. You are fine with him killing for any reason, or no reason. You feel you are to stupid to question this god, so anything he does he must have a good excuse. So you believe his killings are all excused. My philosophy is to examine any moral reasoning. Far away from "anything goes". So stop with the lies.  (1 hr ago | post #128822)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

I am here daily, and do not run from your questions, nor anyone else's.  (2 hrs ago | post #128820)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

I am sure the churches are overflowing today. Simply shows most who are going do not really believe as much as you wished they did. They do not believe going weekly is important. I am sure many doubt many of the things the bible claims, unlike the few who attend weekly. And I am sure many are attending today for social reasons, and not superstitious reasons. Just as I am sure most are not hunting Easter eggs in reverence to the goddess Ester. Rituals.  (2 hrs ago | post #128819)

Lexington, KY

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

The problem is, you think "real answers" are excuses.  (2 hrs ago | post #128818)

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