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Big Stick, WV

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Ok. And your point is? Re-read your post. You fail yet again to support your claim. If all were as you say, where is the issue? The question was will anyone pay a dime of dues before they have voted and approved a contract that WE are satisfied with? You still have not provided a single example of someone who was charged dues by NEMSA in whatever configuration you have tried to put them in. We are eagerly awaiting your actual proof.  (Feb 5, 2013 | post #216)

Beckley, WV

Jan Care Ambulance doesn't care

Deep breath my management friend. I know you do not put any value on what we do as EMS professionals, but allow me to inform you that we are not bakers nor can what we do be shipped overseas or no longer be produced so the EMS jobs will ALWAYS be there being performed by us; dedicated EMS professionals. The ironic thing my little management friend, is that it is the company that really is expendable. It doesn't really matter to the ems system if it's Jan Care on the side of the ambulance or MedCore, or AMR or Rural Metro, etc; what matters is that there are EMS pros (us) on whatever ambulance that is. So in other words the community doesn't need you, they need US! Our jobs are secure, but managers like yourself....a dime a dozen.  (Feb 5, 2013 | post #920)

Beckley, WV

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The members do not vote on the contact until management has already agreed to it. A contract vote by the membership is the final approval that puts the contract that has been negotiated between the union and our elected team from the workforce and management so it is not possible that the members vote on a contract that hasn't already been agreed to by management. Again NO DUES until we vote on a contract that will actually be implemented every word, otherwise we don't pay a dime.  (Feb 4, 2013 | post #213)

Beckley, WV

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So riddle me this. How is it that NEMSA has NAGE money and at the same time is broke? You can't seem to keep your arguments straight. It's also obvious that you don't have a clue how union.contracts work. Companies would love longer term contracts with NEMSA, but NEMSA doesn't do contracts over three years in length because EVERY successive contract builds on the last one. its NEMSA that opens thr contracts for renegotiating. And again EVERY successive contract is also voted on by the members. If would actually read the contracts you would see that NEMSA gets more with every contract. Unlike management, NEMSA can actually deliver. That's why they are not afraid to open them up or not charge anything until the members approve.  (Feb 4, 2013 | post #211)

Beckley, WV

Jan Care Ambulance doesn't care

Think again my management pal. You have zero backup for that claim whatsoever. Just your own delusional nobody signed the constitution, I'm dating a french model, level of fantasy. You got the colluding right though, but it's a bit wider spread than you and your management buddies think.  (Feb 4, 2013 | post #914)

Beckley, WV

Jan Care Ambulance doesn't care

Excellent points. Especially the EMT's getting paid for fewer hours than the Medics. I wonder what self serving excuse they have for this bantant disparity. I cannot think of any reason other than they can get away with it. That is until now. I really think that they are fighting the union so hard because they do not want all their questionable business practices to one, be spotlighted and two, come to an end. Are folks waking up yet to the mentality of this company? The employee in the drivers seat gets paid for 16 hours of a 24 and the one in the passenger seat gets paid for all 24 hours. HELLO!!??  (Feb 4, 2013 | post #912)

Beckley, WV

Jan Care Ambulance doesn't care

Sorry that was Medick 7. I went from my phone to 27yrmedics's lap top and didn't log him out and me in. Go ahead insider have fun with that one.  (Feb 4, 2013 | post #911)

Beckley, WV

Jan Care Ambulance doesn't care

And another thing I learned, is NEMSA always waves the initiation few for EVERYONE employed under the contract at the time of ratification. So no initiation fee either. Tell me again where this is bad?  (Feb 4, 2013 | post #909)

Beckley, WV

Jan Care Ambulance doesn't care

It needs to be restated. WE decide if we want to page dues or not. Let me say it again, WE decide when and If we pay dues. Only if and when WE vote to ratify a.contract do dues start. If WE don't approve of the contract WE don't PAY A CENT. Where then is the boogie man hiding? This is as no risk to us as it get folks. Those are the facts. Proven by EVERY contract that NEMSA has negotiated. Try and find a single person that got charged anything before a contract is in place. And no retro anything  (Feb 4, 2013 | post #908)

Beckley, WV

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What part of we don't pay dues until we have contract that we have voted to approve don't you understand?  (Feb 4, 2013 | post #209)

Beckley, WV

Ambulance Collides With Tractor-Trailer While Responding ...

How about this for some math my smart management pal. NEMSA has been able to get more contracts out of ambulance companies than JC has refused to negotiate. Translated NEMSA has way more experience negotiating ems labor contracts than JC. I will gladly take that bet. My money is on NEMSA.  (Feb 4, 2013 | post #208)

Beckley, WV

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That is correct the company must bargain in good faith and that is what they are afraid of because it's against their nature. Good faith has very significant weight behind it. If it didn't there are many a less than fair company that would come to the table. So you just keep thinking that all management has to do is hold it's breath until you turn blue. Not gonna work. Again look at the contracts that NEMSA has achieved from much bigger and nastier companies that have a lot more money and better lawyers than JC.  (Feb 4, 2013 | post #205)

Beckley, WV

Jan Care Ambulance doesn't care

And here we come back to the same thing from over a week ago. "If its on the internet it must be true" are you also waiting for your french super model from the comercial? The contacts are the contracts plain and simple. I could care less what Torren Colcord makes, I care about what I make and what NEMSA has negotiated for its members and that is what is on the website; the contracts, that spell out what others have gained from joining NEMSA. And THAT is what is relevant. Let me put it even simpler for you my management friend. I drive a Ford truck because I like the features and the price of the Ford truck. I could give two craps who or what the CEO does with his money or if he is nice to his dog. Ford has the product I want with the price that I want so I buy the Ford. I don't go on the lot and pass all the trucks and go straight into the managers office and start looking at the dealerships records and if they have been active in their church pot lucks. I look at the truck, drive the truck and then buy the truck. It's the same with NEMSA. I look at the product ie. their contracts. This is what NEMSA produces and sells. EVERY contract improved the wages, hours and working conditions for the employees working for those companies. THAT is what I and those I work with are gauging our votes on.  (Feb 2, 2013 | post #887)

Big Stick, WV

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Easy now my excited management friend. NEMSA will be representing every county. You see there is a process. As Each County is considered its own operation the voting will be by county, or have you forgotten that the company split everything into different operating areas in order to limit their legal liabilities if they get sued, thus why our pay stubs have JC Raleigh, JC Fayette Co, etc. So here we see again that when the Cornetts benefit the divisions are separate, and when they will not benefit they are done the oposite way. I think that is called hypocrisy. We in Raleigh were simply the first to have the cards done. Over 90% BTW and that is just what it was at the time the election was filed for, we continued to gather cards after the filing. The other counties are quickly following. Sorry to burst your company bubble.  (Feb 2, 2013 | post #201)