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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

The discussion on the legality of States voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage can be summed up in one statement. If you want a Constitutional Amendment banning “gay marriage”, you are admitting the Constitution already allows it. -unknown-  (Sep 20, 2012 | post #160093)

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Christian hate: Sarah Palin supports anti-gay Chick-fil-A

I think that Republicans want to believe that so they do not feel guilt. If you are Christian you take care of the needy and the helpless and do it willingly without wanting something in return. "If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it." -Stephen Colbert  (Sep 20, 2012 | post #3544)

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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Funny litle liars? Can you please read my response to you #159536 but I will make it easier for you.... If you would have read my post then you would know that I never said that God being something that can be technologically measured. People keep talking about not finding a gay gene so I said..*I do not even know if sexuality is something we could ever pin point scientifically speaking and someone said that the technology is not there to prove that Jesus or God is real but the same can be said about a “gay” gene. Maybe one day we can prove exactly when Jesus was born, lived and died or at what point does someone become gay but until then we have go by faith or each individuals feelings on their sexuality.*  (Sep 17, 2012 | post #159542)

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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Our choice to support traditional marriages?” -What traditional marriage is that? There are many different traditional marriages… polygamy (in the bible) concubines (in the bible) underage brides (in the bible) arranged marriages (in the bible) mans ownership of his wife (in the bible) greater than 40% divorce rate (right here in the US) “at least look respect our rights.” ? -First tell me who “our rights” so I get the right group… and then tell me what rights do we need to respect* *I know the last sentence does not make sense  (Sep 17, 2012 | post #159540)

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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Oscar Wilde) - My reply to him (It is always interesting that posters like you come here and make mention of a religious background, but then you imagine Jesus and God being something that can be technologically measured.) -Posters like me? What does that mean? If you would have read my post then you would know that I never said that God being something that can be technologically measured. People keep talking about not finding a gay gene so I said..*I do not even know if sexuality is something we could ever pin point scientifically speaking and someone said that the technology is not there to prove that Jesus or God is real but the same can be said about a “gay” gene. Maybe one day we can prove exactly when Jesus was born, lived and died or at what point does someone become gay but until then we have go by faith or each individuals feelings on their sexuality.* (You simply do not know what happened to you and what you have blocked out. You said that you were rebellious against your mom, but did not mention an issue with your dad which is odd.) --What are you implying that happened to me that I blocked out? Once again at the beginning I put the different reason why people are thought to be gay.*the reasons why someone is gay is because they were sexually abused, overbearing mother, absentee father ect….* But the sentence right before says * I have an amazing relationship with both my parents we talk all the time even if it is not daily at least few times a week.* And girls usually have a better relationship with their fathers when they are teenagers so that is why I did not mention an issue with my dad (so that is not odd to me) (You chose then to date boys, just like you choose now to date girls. If you had been paying attention, then you would know that the temptations that you mentioned which are homosexual in nature is sin and the sin came from satan. Absent of satan in the garden and Eve sinning, no homosexual sin would exist.) -It’s not that I chose to date boys little girls are told over and over find a nice boy, date and then get married and then have children that is what you do. What I choose right now in my life is being happy and in love. if "Eve" wouldn’t have sinned then true homosexual sin would not exist but all sin would not exist. (Can you prove that your mom did not hate you? well, there is no technology that can prove that your mom does not hate you.) -Where did proving my mom hates me come into this conversation. Loving parents do not hate their children… they might not like them sometimes but not hate.  (Sep 17, 2012 | post #159536)

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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

(It is always interesting that posters like you come here and make mention of a religious background, but then you imagine Jesus and God being something that can be technologically measured.) -Posters like me? What does that mean? If you would have read my post then you would know that I never said that God being something that can be technologically measured. People keep talking about not finding a gay gene so I said.. *I do not even know if sexuality is something we could ever pin point scientifically speaking and someone said that the technology is not there to prove that Jesus or God is real but the same can be said about a “gay” gene. Maybe one day we can prove exactly when Jesus was born, lived and died or at what point does someone become gay but until then we have go by faith or each individuals feelings on their sexuality.* (You simply do not know what happened to you and what you have blocked out. You said that you were rebellious against your mom, but did not mention an issue with your dad which is odd.) --What are you implying that happened to me that I blocked out? Once again at the beginning I put the different reason why people are thought to be gay. *the reasons why someone is gay is because they were sexually abused, overbearing mother, absentee father ect…. * But the sentence right before says * I have an amazing relationship with both my parents we talk all the time even if it is not daily at least few times a week. * And girls usually have a better relationship with their fathers when they are teenagers so that is why I did not mention an issue with my dad (so that is not odd to me) (You chose then to date boys, just like you choose now to date girls. If you had been paying attention, then you would know that the temptations that you mentioned which are homosexual in nature is sin and the sin came from satan. Absent of satan in the garden and Eve sinning, no homosexual sin would exist.) -It’s not that I chose to date boys little girls are told over and over find a nice boy, date and then get married and then have children that is what you do. What I choose right now in my life is being happy and in love. if "Eve" wouldnt have sinned then true homosexual sin would not exist but all sin would not exist. (Can you prove that your mom did not hate you? well, there is no technology that can prove that your mom does not hate you.) -Where did proving my mom hates me come into this conversation. Loving parents do not hate their children… they might not like them sometimes but not hate.  (Sep 17, 2012 | post #159533)

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Christian hate: Sarah Palin supports anti-gay Chick-fil-A

They will never be able to come up with a single good argument ever becuase the reason they are against it is usually becuase of the Bible. Until the we completly rewrite the 1st Amendment to say... "Congress shall make law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech" and allow the Bible to determine what laws should or shouldnt be passed then the argument would be valid. But I dont think (or hope) that would never happen.  (Sep 16, 2012 | post #3377)

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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

cont... “When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.” But as adults we do things that makes us happy that will make our lives better. How many people would “choose” to be hated and make their lives harder to live especially when they are not hurting anyone by having a loving relationship with another consenting adult? All I ask of anyone is even if you don’t agree with my “choices” at least look at the other side of things. Everyone grew up differently no one has had the exact life challenges. I grew up middle class (not rich and not poor) but I will not have the same views on things as someone who grew up poor or someone who is rich. But we all need to show a little empathy and realize that we are all different and see us as an individual and not a group. Stereotypes exist for a reason and in any group you can always find the worst the group has to offer (if you look hard enough) but once you get past the”gay,straight,C hristian or Muslim” label and see people as people and not what you think that person is or is not you can see that more often than not you will find good. I have seen the worst in “Christian“ people but every time I meet someone that says they are a “Christian” I do not let the negatives that I have seen of others make my decision on who they are and once you do that people can surprise you and you can see what we have in common instead of just the differences. Seeing the love, generosity and goodness people are capable of makes me hopeful for the future.  (Sep 15, 2012 | post #159412)

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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

When did I ever say it is science... that would be never! Usually people have their views on the LGBT community and lump everyone in one group or the reasons why someone is gay is because they were sexually abused, overbearing mother, absentee father ect…. When I write it is my opinion and I am not speaking for the entire community it is from my own personal experiences. I grew up in a small town I did not see gay people living openly around me and when I started questioning my sexuality at 17 I did not have anyone to go to and ask questions. I grew up in a Southern Baptist Church listening to same sermons and reading the same Bible everyone else and spent a lot of time looking into those verses and wondering why I am having these feelings. My parents are still married after 42 years and it is their first marriage. I have an amazing relationship with both my parents we talk all the time even if it is not daily at least few times a week. My father is not and never was abusive in any way and my mother and I did not get along when I was teenager but nothing more than normal teenage stuff (me wanting to stay out late or someone she did not want me dating or clothes I could not wear). That is how I know for myself a parents’ sexual preference does not impact a child’s sexuality. I did date guys when I was younger but those relationships were never verbally, physically or sexually abusive to me and I am still friends with a few exes. I do not even know if sexuality is something we could ever pin point scientifically speaking and someone said that the technology is not there to prove that Jesus or God is real but the same can be said about a “gay” gene. Maybe one day we can prove exactly when Jesus was born, lived and died or at what point does someone become gay but until then we have go by faith or each individuals feelings on their sexuality. Parents can’t be blamed for everything once we become adults we make our own choices and we start think for ourselves and keep some of the ideas and opinions our parents had but also form our own opinions.  (Sep 15, 2012 | post #159411)

Georgetown, KY

Civil Unions - Georgetown, KY

All that tells me is that same sex couples cannot be married in a church becuase the church does not allow it. It says nothing about 2 consenting adults going down getting a marriage license and getting married by The Justice of the Peace or a person of their choosing to do the ceremony..... Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. So the reasons why you do not agree with marriage equality does not apply.  (Sep 15, 2012 | post #418)

Hayward, WI

Civil Unions - Hayward, WI

Gods law does not apply ever when it comes to the United States of America laws  (Sep 15, 2012 | post #2)

Northfield, MN

Civil Unions - Northfield, MN

Marriage being recognized by the state or government has nothing to do with the laws of Bible. If it was then 2 atheist could not get a marriage license ( they do not believe in God) or Hindu's could not get married( they have multiple Gods) Are you going to make that only Christians can get married?  (Sep 15, 2012 | post #4)

Euless, TX

Civil Unions - Euless, TX

But the laws do not come from The Bible so it does not apply. People always say marriage is a religious ceremony and according to the bible same sex relationships are wrong... But years ago when people were against interracial marriages they used the same reason then... God forbids it.... "The fact that God separated the races shows he did not intend them to mix." But now it is common. The recognition of marriage by states or even federal is not based on the bible so it should not keep 2 woman from getting married or even 2 men from getting married. If it was then 2 atheist could not get a marriage license ( they do not believe in God) or Hindu's could not get married( they have multiple Gods)  (Sep 15, 2012 | post #2)

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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Some gay men and lesbians probably have children in Boy Scouts and want to have an activity with their child. Some probably want to give back to a program that they participated in as children.  (Sep 10, 2012 | post #158772)