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Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

There are some still up. Kate wasn't in charge of many of them; Kate Estes was. https://fundrazr.c om/campaigns/aRF29 http://www.youcari ng.com/other/help- joshua-s-family/77 235  (Jun 3, 2014 | post #4155)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

Oh absolutely. Agreed! :-) I wasn't clear. I was meaning to imply that convincing the docs was the reason behind why she had to convince him he was dying. In order to deceive the doctors in a believable way, it necessitated making him believe he was dying, as a young child couldn't fake it in a believable way. But in the end, even that wasn't enough. She may have convinced him he was dying, but she seemingly forgot to convince him that he was hurting.  (May 21, 2014 | post #4148)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

A couple pages back, we were discussing the name Rebecca/Rebekah and I know there was some question over exactly what was said in relation to it being her mother's name. I was just re-reading one of Kate's forum posts and I found this in a thread where she's asking for ideas for names. ".....only  Rachel Rebecca Leah Naomi Hannah Nina Hope would be possible due to not duplicating first initials of the kids. Of those names, I won't use Rachel because there are a couple cousins with the name already. I won't use Rebecca because it's my mom's name and she's a bitch AND I really don't like the association...... " Note the lack of any God-given visions in church. This was in reply to others' suggestions.  (May 20, 2014 | post #4146)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

Well, Dr. Webhy won the primary: http://www.kptv.co m/category/224859/ oregon-election-re sults I won't lie. I'm a bit surprised. But then, she was called the front-runner. @BLynn Here's the article you referenced: http://www.oregonl ive.com/health/ind ex.ssf/2014/04/us_ senate_candidate_h as_drawn.html Do you recall where you saw here mentioned as a defense witness? You're very right. The defense may very well call Dr. W and she may try to say that Kate didn't dupe her and that the surgeries were required. That would be hella risky on Dr. W.'s part to stand behind those surgeries. I would be shocked if she did. It may work out nicely for the prosecution now that she's won the primary, as she has to worry about her political reputation in addition to her medical reputation. And the fact is, people generally don't like people who support child abusers. My guess is that she'll likely say something to the effect of she believed the symptoms that were reported and with those symptoms present, and thought surgery was an appropriate option. All she would have to say is that she's a doctor and not a human lie detector and that successful treatment of her patients relies upon accurate reporting of symptoms by the parents. If this were a simple case of differing medical opinions, gobs of other parents would be in jail with Kate. Fortunately for the prosecution, they caught her in the act of lying and deceiving. Thinking about it more, Kate had to tell Joshua he was dying if he was to keep up the act in a believable way. But I think this was always bound to happen as he got older and more articulate. In the end, it sounds like it was his words -- saying he wasn't in pain -- that caused things to unravel. And Joshua went from in a wheelchair and needing a GTube to walking and eating and thriving and not dying. Really, I think that says it all.  (May 20, 2014 | post #4145)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

Doubtful, only due to the extensive and complex nature of the case. It usually takes at least a year or two for such a complex case to go to trial due to all of the information involved. Even fast-tracked, I'd be shocked if we saw this at trial in under a year. Plus, the prosecution goes first, so if she was a defense witness, I can't imagine she'd be on the stand for at least a few days. (And really, the court probably doesn't care if there's an election. If you need to testify, you need to testify.) With all the medical stuff involved, that's going to be a fairly lengthy prosecution case because they have to present all this information and in a way that the jury will understand. That's a huge feat. I personally think Dr Webhy will be a witness for both sides. She's valuable to the prosecution because she was the primary physician involved in 13 charges according to Kate's writings. Logic dictates that the doc has to throw Kate under the bus, otherwise she could be held liable for performing unnecessary operations. If she were to say "Yes, Kate was totally truthful and accurate," then it would be her neck on the line. And the defense will find her useful because she performed the surgeries. They'll say, "Look how experienced she is! You think Kate Parker could pull the wool over her eyes?!" Of course not! Dr. Webhy performs surgeries that are controversial in nature; this is just another one of those cases and it's not Kate Parker's fault. " What's significant though is that Dr. Webhy was NOT among the doctors to testify before the Grand Jury. They were able to make their case without her testimony. I wonder if that indicates that she will be helpful to the defense? Not sure. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Interesting, indeed. I'll be interested to see if she wins the primary. With the reports of stalking, the questionable surgeries, her connection to the Parker case....the skeletons just keep tumbling out.  (May 20, 2014 | post #4143)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

The court appearance will be in Portland, since this is a criminal court proceeding rather than a family court proceeding. I doubt we'll see anything really significant as they're apt to ask for a postponement. The DA told one of the news outlets that he planned to ask for more time due to the ongoing investigation or something of that nature.  (May 18, 2014 | post #4130)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

Hi B'Lynn! Indeed, things have been quiet lately. :) It appears that maybe the doctor's report was read in open court or perhaps KOIN got a copy as their article had cited specifics from it. http://koin.com/20 14/05/14/medical-c hild-abuse-suspect -kate-parker-remai n-jail/  (May 17, 2014 | post #4123)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

I also got a chuckle from that. All of her court appearances have been while she's in custody!  (May 16, 2014 | post #4120)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

I heard this too, but from someone who knows the family. That person indicated they went there because CPS wouldn't allow them to have the baby in the same house as Kate. I was told that Adam had been summoned back (had to be 6 weeks ago or earlier) to testify or give a deposition or something of that nature. It's interesting reading all of that info from the doctor's report. Also curious that her attorney is stating that she is not mentally ill or disturbed. So it seems we can toss out mental illness as a possible defense. That suggests she's going to try to offer up some sort of alternate explanation for all this. It will be interesting to see how they plan to defend this, that's for certain.  (May 16, 2014 | post #4118)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

Thanks for sharing! That's very interesting, indeed. You've just got to wonder what, if any, wrong doing will be discovered on the part of the doctors in this case. I do think it's *very* curious that one of the main physicians involved in this case is one who is reportedly known for performing "...surgery on children even in instances where medical imaging didn't clearly support doing so..." It will be interesting to see what the investigators discover.  (Apr 30, 2014 | post #4053)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

Well said on the "God knows what name we'll choose, but doesn't tell us." I've always believed that everyone --- from kids to pets --- has a name that "fits." A name that's just *right*. That's why I had to get to know my kids for a couple days before I picked a name. I had a short list of names, and I used a name from the shortlist just once! In the other instances, a totally different name just popped into mind because it "fit." And pets? I've had pets try on five or six names before we found the right one! So I actually "get" why someone might change their child's name early on; I might do the same if the name we picked seemed all wrong once I realized there was a better name!  (Apr 27, 2014 | post #4034)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

Yeah, I was actually sifting through some forum posts this morning and she was talking about this. Here's the problem: It seems it's a lie where she says she didn't want her mom to think she was named after her. According to her mom's obit, Kate's mom was named Anne C. Proebstel. I thought maybe she'd actually meant her mom's parents? But they're named Bob and Esther -- no Rebekahs anywhere. Maybe there's some logical explanation, but from the facts provided, it doesn't make sense.  (Apr 27, 2014 | post #4032)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

@GigiCarol --- I wrote that on Sarah (I contributed a few writeups, like the bios). There is actually somewhere else where she mentions it and says she was led by god. I have no idea where it was. I'm tempted to say that it was a forum post, perhaps? I'm on information overload going through material for a few upcoming posts. But I'm sure I'll encounter it again! On the bios, I was very careful to make sure I only mentioned things that were backed up by writeups. I went through and added to them as I sifted through material. (Still adding to them, in fact, as I find more tid bits in some newer material I've received.) And I made a point to try to differentiate between what's confirmed as fact and what's reported by Kate and unconfirmed. (Waaay easier said than done! LOL)  (Apr 27, 2014 | post #4031)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

There's also another new post up: http://thetruthabo utkpmomof789.wordp ress.com/2014/04/2 7/did-kate-alter-p hotos-to-make-josh ua-look-sicker/  (Apr 27, 2014 | post #4023)

Grants Pass, OR

joshua parker

Well, I think what those images show is that there *was* a legitimate issue in terms of spina bifida and perhaps chiari malformation. So that's important to note. Those images confirm the spina bifida diagnosis certainly. The brain MRI is a bit more difficult to compare due to the angle (he's tipping his head back and I couldn't find another comparison image that had the head at a similar angle). So as a layman, it's a bit more difficult to know what's going on there. The differences aren't quite as pronounced. In any event, I think those images are helpful in determining what's real in this case; just as important as what's false/lies, IMHO. But I think you've touched upon a very important point and that is that Joshua did have actual disabilities, which complicates matters. With many medical conditions, you don't intervene surgically unless it's absolutely necessary. Imaging and scans can only go so far; the patient's symptoms are a huge part of the equation. You may have a defect that looks not-so-bad on MRI, but it could be causing you agony. Or vice versa; you could have a defect that looks awful on MRI, but it's not all that bothersome. But the allegations are that had Kate not fabricated or caused certain symptoms, then they wouldn't have been inclined to take surgical action. And also remember that Joshua isn't terminal; never was, apparently. But she represented him as terminal in her writings and fundraisers, which is another big part of the equation. If this goes to trial, it will be interesting to hear how much of a role Joshua's self-reporting played into the prosecution's case. I know from the reports of one of the friends who was there when it all went down at the hospital that Joshua was cited as saying he wasn't in pain when Kate said he was in severe pain. I wonder if his speech impediment and delays may have allowed her to "get away with it" much longer than with a typical child who's more communicative at a younger age. I wonder if it was his improving communication skills that brought her down.  (Apr 27, 2014 | post #4022)

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