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JonBenet Ramsey

mBm aka Old South - Update

Farewell Ole South. May those who loved you take comfort in knowing your suffering is over and your spirit is free. You will be sadly missed and always lovingly remembered.  (Mar 16, 2015 | post #7)

JonBenet Ramsey

Prayers for mBm aka old. South

It was nice of you to start a special thread for us to pay tribute to Ole South, Biz. I know the kind words and prayers would mean a lot to her. I never had the privilege of meeting Ole South personally but we exchanged many emails and I had come to regard her almost as a dearly loved member of my own family. Her passion for seeing this case solved, her intelligence, wisdom and innate kindness of heart are the qualities I best remember her for. Despite her often heated exchanges of words with other posters, she is not a grudge bearer and more than once expressed regret over the loss of former friendships. God bless you, Ole South. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.  (Mar 13, 2015 | post #11)

JonBenet Ramsey

Recommend me the best book on the case?

One book I would strongly recommend you read, Fiona, is Stephen Singular's "Presumed Guilty". I think you will find it enlightening. https://www.kirkus reviews.com/book-r eviews/stephen-sin gular/presumed-gui lty/  (Jul 18, 2014 | post #10)

JonBenet Ramsey

consistent with intruder theory

Excellent posts, AK! You have very nicely summarised most of the reasons I believe IDI. As regards missing items, here's another to add to the list; if John broke the basement window THAT NIGHT, as many RDI believe, rather than months before as he said, what became of the broken glass?  (Dec 3, 2013 | post #17)

JonBenet Ramsey

DNA and Krane

Hi Bakatari. The books are interesting and there's a lot of good information to be gleaned from them, but you're right, they're not official and ideally whatever information we get from them should be verified through other sources if possible. Where there are clear discrepancies as in John allegedly reading to a sleeping child, we have to apply some common sense. I don't know if Burke ever officially said she was awake. That is what Steve Thomas CLAIMED, but until I see a transcript of Burke's interview, I remain sceptical.  (Nov 28, 2013 | post #384)

JonBenet Ramsey

DNA and Krane

Do you always blindly accept everything you read in books and in the media as the gospel truth because the author or reporter said it was from a "police report"? Even when a discrepancy is clearly evident and common sense should dictate that what was written can't be right? Do you really believe police are incapable of making mistakes and misunderstandings can't occur? Did the cop who wrote that report not have the discretion to think for himself that John wouldn't be likely to read to a sleeping child and question him about this? Ask yourself that and maybe next time you'll think twice before placing such childlike faith in the police. It's obvious from your post that you're too inclined to rely on hearsay evidence and that you aren't particularly well informed about some of the facts of the case. If you were, you'd know that Burke did not make that alleged statement about JonBenet walking up the stairs to bed on the 26th, but nearly two years later when he was eleven and that we have only Steve Thomas' word for that. Same as Stewart Long allegedly saying, again according to Thomas, that John said he found JB's body at 11. None of this has ever been verified, it's all just hearsay from Thomas. Any detective worth his salt, if he was being truthful about all these claims, would surely have called John, Patsy, Burke and Stewart Long in for an interview to discuss these very serious discrepancies in their stories and wouldn't stop until he got the truth out of them. Would he shrug his shoulders and have an "oh well" attitude? Not likely! So ask yourself why Thomas didn't. EVERYONE had the same story four months later? Please show me where!  (Nov 28, 2013 | post #383)

JonBenet Ramsey

DNA and Krane

Hi Bakatari. That is true. Only the Ramseys know the truth. But when posters say the Ramseys said this or the Ramseys said that when they're relying on nothing but hearsay because no one has ever read those words straight from the Ramseys' own mouths, I like to set the facts straight. In this instance, (John reading to JonBenet) Schiller apparently got the information from a "police report", but WHAT police report? Which officer wrote the report? What exactly did John (allegedly) say? Did Schiller see the report for himself or was he relying on Charlie Brennan? If so, did Brennan see the actual report or was he relying on someone within the BPD whose name we don't know? How do we know that person was being truthful? It's just hearsay which could be so far removed from the truth that we can't attach any reliability to it, like playing broken telephone. John either didn't read to JonBenet because she was asleep or he did because she was awake, but it can't be both, so obviously Schiller got SOMETHING wrong.  (Nov 27, 2013 | post #369)

JonBenet Ramsey

DNA and Krane

I, too, would like to see a source for John, in his OWN WORDS, saying that, Mama.  (Nov 26, 2013 | post #364)

JonBenet Ramsey

DNA and Krane

No, that is not what John stated, that is what Schiller stated, but I believe he was wrong. From PMPT: "According to a police report, he (John) carried JonBenet, who was still asleep, upstairs to her room, where he took her shoes off and read to her." Common sense dictates that he would not read to a child who was sound asleep.  (Nov 26, 2013 | post #363)

JonBenet Ramsey

Exoneration HOAX

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JonBenet Ramsey

Exoneration HOAX

I think the perp was that sinister stranger seen lurking around the Ramsey home on Christmas afternoon as reported by a neighbour. The one with the deep scar running down his right cheek and the cruel eyes. He was wearing a dark overcoat and carried a softball bat and a backpack. Must've been him who left those two unidentified fingerprints on the basement window. I hope no one's going to pester me for a source as this information has been posted again and again over the past seventeen years and anyone who knows the case should know where to find it so they can go look for it themselves. I'm not posting it AGAIN.  (Nov 21, 2013 | post #30)

JonBenet Ramsey

DNA and Krane

I have always been sceptical of that claim made by ST. He'd been dishonest before and I don't believe he'd be above lying. The following is a comment on the matter I posted some time back and which I'll re-post to save myself a lot of typing: "Burke, on the other hand, was already eleven years old by the time he was interviewed by Dan Schuler. He was old enough to appreciate that telling the police his sister was awake and walked up the stairs to bed would be very incriminating evidence towards himself and his family. The Ramseys knew Burke was going to be interviewed, it wasn't suddenly sprung on them, so if they were guilty, don't you think they'd have prepped him for the interview, told him exactly what he was or was NOT to say and keep reiterating it over and over, emphasizing the dire consequences if he didn't follow their instructions? Of course guilty parents would do that, it stands to reason. So on the one hand we have a police officer who desperately wanted his suspect arrested, a man who we know for a FACT (it's in his depo) was not strictly above board, alleging Burke made that statement. On the other hand, we have a child who had PLENTY to lose by making such a statment and was old enough to know it. Who to believe? To me, the answer's obvious".  (Nov 21, 2013 | post #326)

JonBenet Ramsey

Part 1 of 3: Boulder detectives still seek answers in Jon...

Hi Bakatari. Thank you very much for the links. I do appreciate it, as you are the ONLY RDI who has ever posted sources for me when I've asked for them.  (Nov 21, 2013 | post #63)

JonBenet Ramsey

DNA and Krane

Just to further clarify, STEVE THOMAS said Burke said she was awake and walked up the stairs. We have never seen a transcript of Burke's interview for ourselves and have only ST's word to rely on.  (Nov 20, 2013 | post #312)

JonBenet Ramsey

Part 1 of 3: Boulder detectives still seek answers in Jon...

Bakatari, on the previous page, I asked if you would kindly source for me two statements that you've made, but I think you missed my post. The first is that Smit believed the ransom note was "authentic " and the second was Smit saying the "garrote is a favourite weapon for paedophiles". Would you mind providing sources for those two statements please as I don't believe I've ever seen that.  (Nov 20, 2013 | post #58)