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The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

The point I was trying to make was that comparing the murder of innocent men, women, and children, violently being driven from the state, and loosing all their possessions because they are Mormon, and homosexuals not being allowed to marry is not a good juxtaposition. It's apparent, the legislature of California didn't view putting same sex marriage on the ballot as violating the civil rights of homosexuals. That's for the courts to decide.  (Feb 19, 2014 | post #32699)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

What was done to the early Saints in Missouri was not put to the vote of the people. It was just done. Big difference. In fact, there really is no comparison.  (Feb 19, 2014 | post #32695)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Personal??? And just how am I being personal??? Because I asked you to "grow up" and for once admit when when you're wrong about something??? What are you 13? You act and talk like a petulant little child. Loser??? Hahahahahaha!!! That's a good one. Hey... just how many Californian's had their vote bought, NoHo?  (Feb 18, 2014 | post #32679)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Why can't you just grow up and admit when you're wrong about something? Is your ego sooo fragile? You go ahead and keep acting as if you missed my point. I know you understood it, and so does everyone else following along.  (Feb 18, 2014 | post #32677)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

The point to "be" made...  (Feb 17, 2014 | post #32660)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

It doesn't matter how much the Church spent on any of what you said. The point to made is the "people" of California spoke. Mormons weren't the only ones who voted, and no one received money to vote one way or the other. What's sad is, the people's voice is no longer being heard. It doesn't matter whether your for something, or against something. When the people's voice is no longer heard, then we are in trouble as a nation.  (Feb 17, 2014 | post #32659)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Rationalized how exactly??? You pretty much admitted that Mormons weren't the only people who voted, AND that none of the California voters received a penny for their votes one way or the other. End. Of. Story.  (Feb 17, 2014 | post #32647)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

So... no California voters received a penny for their votes. I think that pretty much sums it up for your distorted allegations and accusations. Utter BS. :-)  (Feb 17, 2014 | post #32639)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

So, they weren't the only ones who voted. Let me ask this... Did any of the citizens of California get paid off for their vote?  (Feb 17, 2014 | post #32634)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

So Mormons were the only ones who voted?  (Feb 17, 2014 | post #32628)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

A little transparency wouldn't be a bad thing; however, it seems the majority of those interested in it are the critics of the Church. Since that seems to be the case, even if the Church were, they'd still find something to complain about.  (Feb 17, 2014 | post #32623)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

I would gather that DI isn't very profitable. If it is it can't be much after the cost of doing business, but what profits it does make goes to humanitarian effort and the Church Welfare System. I would agree that transparency would be a good thing, especially for those that are concerned or worried about it.  (Feb 16, 2014 | post #32617)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

The members have every reason not to follow it. OD1 put a stop to it and until we are directed otherwise, it won't be practiced in the LDS Church. That alone shows we believe in following the revelations of our Prophet. I still maintain that if polygamy were legalized, it would only benefit those who currently practice it, or those who wish to who are not members of the LDS Church.  (Feb 16, 2014 | post #32615)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Correct. Fast Offerings are a separate fund from tithing and are not recorded by the Church. However, they are both used to aid those in need. That's why I said that if you included what is actually given in Fast Offerings along with Tithing, that 2% would dramatically increase. That being said, yes, I have. This is especially true in disaster situations such as Katrina, or when the tornado ripped through Joplin. "The Church’s welfare system has included many programs: Social Services (now LDS Family Services), LDS Charities, Humanitarian Services, and Emergency Response. These programs and others have blessed the lives of hundreds of thousands both in and out of the Church. With the formation of Church Humanitarian Services in 1985, the Church’s international welfare efforts grew tremendously as clothing and other goods were sorted for shipment around the world in response to poverty and disasters." More info can also be found here: https://apps.lds.o rg/welfareoperatio ns/overview.jsf?op eration=humanitari an.services  (Feb 16, 2014 | post #32608)

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism)

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Official Declaration 1 trumps D&C 132, Unless God declares otherwise. So, until that happens, the legalization of polygamy will only help those already engaged in it, or those who wish to practice it, like the FLDS.  (Feb 16, 2014 | post #32570)