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Rev. Slams Civil Rights, Gay Rights Link

Perhaps he should listen to what Julian Bond has to say about it.  (Mar 19, 2011 | post #8)

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Stop opposing gay marriage in Md.

Ecclesiastes 11:5 Just as you do not know the path of the wind and how bones are formed in the womb of the pregnant woman, so you do not know the activity of God who makes all things.  (Mar 19, 2011 | post #1936)

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Final Brief Filed by Prop 8 Plaintiffs in Effort to Lift ...

Why is that??? The SCOTUS is the very court that is most strict and conservative about jurisdictional issues as well as other issues regarding procedure. As a matter of fact, I think that Olson and Boies may well appeal to the SCOTUS if the Ninth Circuit does denies the motion to vacate the stay. With the expedited schedule thrown WAY off, it would make sense.  (Mar 19, 2011 | post #32)

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Final Brief Filed by Prop 8 Plaintiffs in Effort to Lift ...

I think they need to have better reasons BECAUSE the case is not expedited now. If they wanted to slow things down, why did they put this case an expedited schedule to begin with??? I do not agree with you there. No, they do not have to answer to anyone but the SCOTUS. And, the SCOTUS HAS vacated stays that the Ninth Circuit has issued before. One is cited in the brief, and I'm sure that there are others. Again, the Ninth Circuit does not want to be rebuked again by the SCOTUS. In addition, there is public pressure for them to vacate the stay. That does not mean that they will vacate the stay, but I think that even the judges will want to give more details as to why if they don't.  (Mar 19, 2011 | post #28)

Gay/Lesbian

Final Brief Filed by Prop 8 Plaintiffs in Effort to Lift ...

Yes, that's exactly what happened. But, they expedited the case as was asked, and they probably thought that they would be finished with the case soon. That has not haapened, obviouslyThe court chose a compromise position and issued a stay, but expedited the case (and, quite a bit for the Ninth Circuit). This situation has changedI'm sure that Olson and Boies are quite pleased that you do not question their expertise. **snark** The Ninth Circuit probably thought that the CASC would quickly answer their question, which has not happened. Afterall, how can the question of standing (for the state) be that difficult? The judges at the Ninth Circuit are chomping at the bit to rule on the merits of the case. That's why they sent the certified question. They hope what the CASC decides will help them with jurisdictional issues (however, I doubt it will). They don't want the SCOTUS to rebuke them again over this issueMy hopes are not up. I stated that the chances are 50/50 that the Ninth Circuit will vacate the stay. I'm sure that they'd rather maintain the staus quo if they can. But, I think they will need to have better reasons this time if they choose not to vacate. I don't think they want this case to linger on. While it could take till 2015 to be resolved, I strongly doubt that it will take that long. It should be resolved by late 2013 at least.  (Mar 19, 2011 | post #25)

Gay/Lesbian

Final Brief Filed by Prop 8 Plaintiffs in Effort to Lift ...

The courts usually like to maintain the status quo, so they may look for a reason to maintain the stay. That's why I think the chances are 50/50. I don't think it will take until 2015 either. I still don't believe that the proponents have Article III standing. If not, it should be over in 2012.  (Mar 19, 2011 | post #24)

Gay/Lesbian

Final Brief Filed by Prop 8 Plaintiffs in Effort to Lift ...

That a higher court may weigh in on the matter is not justification to issue a stay. Apparently, Olson and Boies disagree with you. I'll go with them.  (Mar 19, 2011 | post #18)

Gay/Lesbian

Final Brief Filed by Prop 8 Plaintiffs in Effort to Lift ...

I'd say the chances are 50/50. As to what has substantially changed, did you read the brief? That is where you'll find the answer. A better question might be: Why was the stay issued in the first place. No one really knows when they will decide, which is almost always the case with federal courts. We'll see.  (Mar 19, 2011 | post #16)

Gay/Lesbian

Anti-gay group: We aren't hateful

The only thing I don't understand is why it took them so long to designate the FRC a hate group. The shoe certainly fits and has for some time.  (Nov 27, 2010 | post #884)

Gay/Lesbian

Opinion: Black churches reject homosexuality

I disagree with you both. I do not see gays here trying to make the bible sympathetic to their cause. I see gays here who have clearly given a great deal of thought to correctly interpreting scripture within it's proper context ... language context, literary context, historical context, and overall biblical context. Having said that, we all interpret the Bible through our own personal lenses. That includes you and the other posters here as well. All we can do is try to educate ourselves better/more and try to be as open minded as we can.  (Oct 1, 2010 | post #832)

Gay/Lesbian

Opinion: Black churches reject homosexuality

What agenda do you work from? We all view the world through our own lensesWhat is wrong with this logic? If homosexuality is such a grave sin, why wouldn't it be mentioned and condemned somewhere in scripture? And, if it is not, how would we come to the conclusion that it is a sin? What is your logic here? I don't see anyThe way that I read the passage is that the Roman Centurion was quite tender and extremely concerned about this younger male servant of his. His demeanor and words would not make much sense if something else was not going on there. Why would a highly respected Roman soldier (of that time) lower himself and beg Jesus to heal a mere housekeeper or cook. It is difficult NOT to read more into this story. If the servant had been a female, it probably would not have been questioned that they had something going onEither would be a safe bet, in my opinion. And, just because someone does not have testicles does not mean that he could not have sex. He could, and would be more likely to than a homosexual, which might or might not have had testicles. Again. I do not see you logic here at all, if you have any. The bottom line is that Jesus stated that some eunuchs were born that way. I don't see how that could exclude homosexuals. Do you? ReallyI disagreeHow do you know this? Did someone take a count of all the eunuchs back then to see?  (Oct 1, 2010 | post #831)

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Opinion: Black churches reject homosexuality

From what I have read, it amounts to a great deal more than just a difference of opinionThen why do you do it? Why are you abusiveThen why do you not follow your own adviceWhy do you preceive this? According to polls and from the latest court cases, we are winning ... big timeI do not perceive "lack of emotional maturity" in his/her posts. I see knowledge, wisdom, and deep thinking. I see holes in YOUR arguments. And, I see dishonesty is YOUR posts. And, it has apparently overtaken YOUR mind. You are guilty of what you accuse others of.  (Oct 1, 2010 | post #830)

Gay/Lesbian

Opinion: Black churches reject homosexuality

Pot, meet kettle.  (Oct 1, 2010 | post #829)

Gay/Lesbian

Opinion: Black churches reject homosexuality

The comment that you posted that he was responding to was quite insulting. I read it. That being the case, how can you not expect that he would return the favor?  (Oct 1, 2010 | post #828)