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The York Daily Record

It's an animal rights lobby group

It is not hard to understand that you would quote incorrectly from the Bible. I am not sure which one you read from but it only shows that you will quote only from the one that makes your ideas right in your mind. But sorry to say it says 'dominion' over the fish of the sea, and over the foule of the aire and over the cattell, and over all the earth and so on. The one thing that makes me know that you do not understand the Bible is because you don't know what God is saying. You make up what you think it is saying and this is WRONG. For one thing, God does not have different meanings for words, they have the same meaning. Only good old man does that, and that is because we are so evil we have to have more excuses for what we do. But God says about Christ, that he shall have 'dominion' over man! Christ didn't kill, eat or wear us! So why would you think that God would want this for his creatures. Yes, his creatures. If you are going to quote from the Bible at least get your facts straight. And stop changing the meanings. Other than that...have a great day  (Dec 14, 2010 | post #15)

Columbus Dispatch

Farm owner won't face animal abuse charges | The Columbus...

Always the ones who are trying to stop such abuse and then we see someone like you who turns the tables and goes after the very people who want to stop this abuse? You want to make it seem like they are doing something wrong. With people such as yourself, the abuse will continue! You must feel good about yourself!  (Oct 15, 2010 | post #1017)

The York Daily Record

It's an animal rights lobby group

It doesn't matter how big or small HSUS is? Who cares, the fact remains that we don't have the right to use God's creatures for anything! Where did we get this from? So David you are so wrong! So people who don't want to do harm to others is deamed 'crazy' and that really shocks me. What do you call yourself David since it is clear that you eat God's creatures, you wear them, and I guess you don't give a good crap about their safety and well being? What would you call yourself? If someone like yourself would show me where it says that we have these rights, I would love to see it!! We don't that is just the truth. Another thing is we call them 'animals' and ourselves 'humans?' Wow if we look at what we do to them, and what they don't do to us, we will see that we have become the animal. What a sad day when we can't even see the harm we do others,and we continue to think it is ok. I feel sorry for you David that you are so confused. And with that, you will continue harming others for your own good.  (Sep 23, 2010 | post #5)

Columbus Dispatch

Farm owner won't face animal abuse charges | The Columbus...

I cannot believe my ears. A jury didn't see anything wrong with this abuse...yes abuse. What does it take for these people to see abuse? I guess it takes the killing of these innocents. Farm animals are abused each and every day of their lives. It seems that as long a people see them as nothing but food, then their suffering won't make them feel bad about what happens to them. We should all be sick to see that this jury came back with this verdict. It only shows that there are those out there that have no morals and care nothing for others that live on this earth. Good job people you have now opened the gates to hell!  (Jul 7, 2010 | post #216)

Farmington Daily Times

High School Rodeo under investigation for animal abuse

It is sad to see that a high school would have these practices! To teach these young adults that it is okay to torture a horse or bull all in the name of a sport! What are we teaching these young adults? Is there enough animal cruelty in this world that we don't need to see more. These horses and bulls that 'normally' will not buck or act aggressive are made to do just that. Without the electrical prods they will not have a rodeo. So without any concern for these creatures they shockem! Hopefully we will see more and more of these things stopped and then maybe everyone will finally see these innocent creatures for what they are, calm creatures who don't want to hurt anyone!  (Aug 26, 2009 | post #103)

WNBC New York

Horse-Drawn Carriage Collides With Cab

What is it going to take to stop these people from using horses on these busy streets? Since we have already seen horses being killed on the streets and no one bothering to stop this barbaric act, I guess we have to see some person killed before they will stop this. These innocent horses do not deserve this. Cars and horses don't mix. This is just a dangerous as drinking and driving. Someone or some thing is going to be killed. It is time to put a stop to this! DO THE RIGHT THING!  (Sep 1, 2008 | post #3)

Chicago Tribune

Loyola's medical school mistreated animals, reports show

How disgusting is the human race. We treat others that have the right to be here on this earth as if they were put here for our needs. We aren't just disgusting, we are down right stupid. It doesn't take a wise man to know that hurting others is a sign of weakness and the only way that man can make himself look and feel better is to show we can hurt others. Doesn't matter what living, breathing creature you choose on this earth, they are all being used in some horrible way or another. They are being tortured, skinned, eaten, entertained with and so on. And this is what we call human! The human mind is a scary place to visit. With so much evil there it should make most people wonder what else does man feel he has the right to do?? We already do it all, and to some of the most innocents of innocents. We do it to others that have never done anything to us! DO THE RIGHT THING! If indeed man knows what that is.  (Jul 23, 2008 | post #107)

Sports

Michael Vick surrenders to U.S. marshals

I wouldn't normally take the time to reply back to something like this, but here goes. I for one don't care what color your skin is. I don't care if you part your hair under your arms, what I care about is the abuse that is inflicted upon innocent creatures. As for your comment about white folks letting their dogs eat at the dinner table???? What country do you live in?? I have 4 dogs and they all eat out of the same bowl in the floor. So to make them look like they deserved to be treated with such disrespect and what Vic did wasn't wrong, only makes me feel that you have the same hatred toward animals as Vic. Otherwise you wouldn't have said what you said. I for one am tired of being held responsible for what happened 200 years ago. I wouldn't have been one of those people who did what they did to blacks. I see no color. But the one thing I do see and will never change on is the fact that whatever color you are, YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO TORTURE, KILL, OR EAT ANY CREATURE! It doesn't take a color to be found guilty of this, it takes the person, and an evil person. What if he was white, I would be asking for the same punishment, and hope to God that person sat in jail until the day came that he learned his lesson. This is not about race and it is sad that you want to make it that, but the fact remains, that all creatures big and small are being tortured to the degree that we need to stop and look at what is causing it. They do deserve the right to live here the same as you or me. So stop with the self pity and do something to make this a better world!  (Nov 20, 2007 | post #283)

Sports

Michael Vick surrenders to U.S. marshals

Wow, I read what one person had to say, he was proud of Vic?? And that he was a first time offender. What you mean is, this is the first time he has been caught, don't you? Not only has Vic been doing this since 2000, but the fact that he knew what he was doing was wrong, but continued doing it. There are those out there that think that these innocent creatures were put here for our needs, but one thing is clear, anyone who would do something as mean and evil as Vic deserves to be in jail. Not just a slap on the hand, but get as good as he gave. Maybe just maybe while he has time to think back to what he did for all of those years, he might come out a different person. We can only hope so. And as for turning himself in, he might be stupid a little bit, but when it means that he won't be able to play ball and make those big bucks, you can be this man will say just about anything! Vic is who he is. He is a very mean man. He did these acts against these innocent creatures and I personally don't care if he sets in jail for years and years. As long as it takes him to pay for his crimes. He did kill, keep that in mind. And whether or not you feel those creatures deserved it or not, well the court has spoken. He is guilty. He killed some of those poor dogs because they didn't want to fight. Keep that in mind too. If any good can come out of this, great, but I for one don't see it happening. The only thing I could see happen is that when he gets out, he makes sure he doesn't get caught, again!  (Nov 20, 2007 | post #278)

Immigration Reform

How should the US deal with Illegal Immigration?

Boy am I going to get it for saying this. But, we did this ourselves. Our government didn't stop it even when they saw what was happening. If they didn't see what was happening, then why are they there?? Now what to do, what to do? We need to stop giving free citizenship to any child that is born here that has illegal parents!! That is one, then we need to send them back to their own country. We need to stop giving free medical care to others when we don't give it to our own citizens. And we need to tell our government to stop letting this happen. Our men and women are overseas fighting a war, and when they come back home, they don't get as good as illegals. We treat them and their families as if they were only good for one thing, fighting for our rights. So I say send the illegals packing and give more resources to the people in the U.S. I was just listening to FOX news and they were debating whether the English language should be the only spoken language here??? What, did someone forget, this is the United States, and our language is English. This is the problem, no one is running this country. Or if they think they are, they are doing it for their own good. The people have spoken. Oh yeah, I forgot, they don't listen to the people for the people!! If someone wants to be here in the United States, they have to do it legally! Otherwise, they can go home. If they break this law what other laws will they be breaking? The fact is, they don't want to live here, they want to send the money they make here back to Mexico. So this hurts our economy. I don't begrudge anyone wanting to make a better life, but they have to do it so that others don't have to suffer because of their decisions.  (Nov 20, 2007 | post #4584)

Chattanooga, TN

Cultinary Cruelty Undercover in Canada

Actually I should have said this about this issue as to whether you would save the human over God's creatures. Look at it this way mac, what if you only had enough room for one human, just one person and out there you saw two humans? What would you do?? Only one place. Do you leave the other human?? I think that if this were a creature and a human, you save them both. That is the correct answer. You don't just leave the creature because you don't like them, if you can save both people, you have the room to save the creature and the human!! As for you having a family, and you just assume I don't, I don't tell you about my life, there is no reason, and that way, it never becomes personal!  (Oct 7, 2007 | post #14)

Chattanooga, TN

Cruelty at Its Best

mac, you actually have animals? The poor creatures. The way you talk, only makes you seem to be cruel. Have you taken the time to read some of your comments, not towards me, but toward these creatures? You need to see why I am addressing you the way that I am. You sound like an animal! mac, you know I was actually going to comment to a couple of your statements, but when I read what you said to Kristi, I decided you might not understand them! So I'll just let you waddle in your ego!  (Oct 7, 2007 | post #15)

Chattanooga, TN

Cultinary Cruelty Undercover in Canada

I know, I did say last comment :) but I just had too. Why is it that when we talk about the treatment of animals, that man has to bring into this conversation how we should be looking out for man. We humans are the ones who have caused everything that goes wrong on this earth. If you can get past that big ego that man has, you and the others might be able to see what we humans are doing. So if we could please just keep this issue, the torture that animals go through as just that. I'll try and remember that you are so more intelligent than me...but who is calling who stupid! You now say you were raised to kill animals, and not be cruel, but if you look at your other comments, I see just the opposite. My father butchered cattle and sold their meat, that doesn't make it right. I have had the same conversations with him. Just because you are taught something when you were young doesn't mean it is correct or humane. One more thing mac, you say chickens are dump, it seems that if you can give something a title, like dumb, that makes that creature a little less desired and if you kill it, it doesn't have the same impact. If you did your homework, you would see that this world has changed its mind as to just how intelligent chickens really are. In fact, there is a pecking order you might call it, just like we humans. They care for their young and have been seen to stay with the eggs making a soft noise until the chick is born. But most creatures are intelligent, it is the stupidity of man and that ego thing that keeps man from seeing their intelligence. I don't think God would like to hear that his creatures are dumb. I don't think he created them dumb. Before you really say something like this, you need to get the facts right. As for my being mean to you, it is because people will not take the time to think outside of what they have been taught. There are those who have to be part of a pack, never thinking for themselves! They just follow the pack. Let me give you an idea of what I am talking about. I am an animal activist. I helped one of my friends hand out leaflets the other night. Large groups would come past us and then maybe a few people would walk past. The person that was leading the big number of people, if that one person took the leaflet, then all of them took it, if that one person didn't take one, then no one took them. Just because we were taught something when we were young doesn't mean you can't find out for yourself if it is hurting others? What man did before we were born, doesn't mean it is correct. Step outside that pack and learn for yourself. It can only improve this earth and everything on it! As for the saving a human over an animal. Well I would hope it wouldn't get down to that. You didn't give me something to make a choice from so it would be hard to decide. If it were a child, I would take the child, hands down. But if a poor animal is dragged into something where it has no choice, man does. Man goes into things that he knows might cause him his life. Man chooses what he wants to do, not the poor creature.  (Oct 7, 2007 | post #13)

Chattanooga, TN

Cultinary Cruelty Undercover in Canada

Well then mac, you again show how smart you are. You say if we didn't eat animals they would surely eat us? I don't think there is one cow out there that would want to eat us. In fact, they don't eat meat!! So let me see, mac, you eat pig, I don't think there is one pig out there that would sneak into your home and kill you!! Again they don't eat meat!!! Chickens, I bet they could do a job on you!! Again, they don't eat meat. I think that man is the only one that really eats meat! Of all of the farm animals you have killed not one would have caused you any harm, or eat YOU! Should I go on, or just let you keep making up crap? All I can say about someone like you is, please don't let me get in a situation where I would have to hope you would save someone!! Death is death, wow, you really opened my eyes!! Cruelty is evil. I think this will be the last I comment since there isn't anything here to comment on!  (Oct 5, 2007 | post #10)

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